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BajaUtah
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Quote: Originally posted by bledito  | | I like los barriles as I like to spend time In the water. I am close enough to air transit and shopping. Also far enough away from the traffic and
crowds of cabo, san jose, or la paz. Todos is nice but on the pacific side swim areas are limited. |
I'll echo this for my choice of La Ribera - well, Lighthouse Point.
Andy
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shari
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I looked far and wide all over Latin America for "my place" and was very glad to have found it much closer to home than countries like Costa rica,
Ecuador etc. I knew it was my paradise the moment I set eyes on it.
I chose Bahia Asuncion for the following reasons
-small safe beautiful village of very friendly locals
-spectacular pristine beaches and coastline, very clean
-excellent year round weather...cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter which most people dont realize!
-off the beaten path (5 hours from an international airport) so no real development here
-the village is not too big but has lots of stores, services, gas station, restaurants etc and small enough that everyone knows everyone
-MUCH cheaper land prices and building costs
-great fishing, swimming, surf, snorkeling, 2 islands very close, biking, hiking, fossil hunting,great dances and local fiestas
-there is a hospital & clinic as well as an excellent air strip for medivac
--the town is prosperous and it shows, no beggars, no homeless, 2 very successful fishing cooperativas so everyone has a good job so the homes are
lovely and well cared for with flowers & trees everywere
-the cooperativa patrols 24/7 making the area very safe
-very few expats and no gringo enclaves
-I love the location being half way down the peninsula so you can go north or south in a day and there are so many places to see in central baja
It is always wise to visit and rent a place for a bit to see if you really like it and the place likes you! Good luck finding your paradise!
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rts551
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Where you live is always such a personal decision. But a couple of theings to look at is what is the housing turn over rate...and how many homes are
for sale. Things are not always what they seem, and some will make recommendations with motives in mind.
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shari
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I suppose this was directed at me. I couldnt give a rats burro if people move here or not. Yes there are some houses for sale for different
motives...one couple wanted to be closer to their grandkids..that they didnt have when they bought here..another is selling because of a serious
illness...another wants to be closer to the border, another is selling as she had 2 ew kids up north and she bought on spec anyway...so what?
Some expats who bought here are still very happy here...and there are a couple beautiful new homes being built by folks who are very excited to live
here.
People come and go especially retirees.
I was trying to help a new person decide how to choose a place...thats ALL.
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BigBearRider
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Your post provided useful information.
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vgabndo
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| Quote: Originally posted by shari | I looked far and wide all over Latin America for "my place" and was very glad to have found it much closer to home than countries like Costa rica,
Ecuador etc. I knew it was my paradise the moment I set eyes on it.
I chose Bahia Asuncion for the following reasons
-small safe beautiful village of very friendly locals
-spectacular pristine beaches and coastline, very clean
-excellent year round weather...cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter which most people dont realize!
-off the beaten path (5 hours from an international airport) so no real development here
-the village is not too big but has lots of stores, services, gas station, restaurants etc and small enough that everyone knows everyone
-MUCH cheaper land prices and building costs
-great fishing, swimming, surf, snorkeling, 2 islands very close, biking, hiking, fossil hunting,great dances and local fiestas
-there is a hospital & clinic as well as an excellent air strip for medivac
--the town is prosperous and it shows, no beggars, no homeless, 2 very successful fishing cooperativas so everyone has a good job so the homes are
lovely and well cared for with flowers & trees everywere
-the cooperativa patrols 24/7 making the area very safe
-very few expats and no gringo enclaves
-I love the location being half way down the peninsula so you can go north or south in a day and there are so many places to see in central baja
It is always wise to visit and rent a place for a bit to see if you really like it and the place likes you! Good luck finding your paradise!
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I agree with almost all of what you say about Bahia Asuncion. Perhaps you can explain how I got the wrong impression about the co-ops. Before I left
there, months ago, it was common knowledge that one of the co-ops had not paid it's members for over six months. Their families were living off credit
from the little markets. Also this past year, the fishermen who have a permit to harvest enough sardines for their lobster traps, went to sea every
day for weeks and weeks and took countless tons of sardines in violation of Biosphere regulations. I was told that it was for survival because of no
lobster money.
My impression after a 15-month visit was that the co-ops were not doing very well at all. People told me there was a problem with the emergency money
to repair the co-op when it was undermined by Norbert.
Having two co-ops sure makes for a lively and competitive baseball league, and the wonderful baseball park is a major attribute to the community.
Equally important, the conveniently located Tacos don Ramon!
 
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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shari
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yes Perry, there was a problem with one of the coops although I dont think it was 6 months...ups and downs, perhaps some mismanagement..the coops vote
in their directors and these guys are often fishermen, not businessmen and the hurricanes did quite a bit of damage both to the building and to the
product...really killed alot of lobster but from what I understand, the fishers were paid alot in the good years and didnt save for the bad
ones...just a blip really in the grand scheme of things. They had a fantastic lobster season awhile back and spent alot on improvements and built the
new office and decompression chamber.
But in comparison to other areas, our coops are doing pretty well and have a sustainable fishery to be proud of and not a bad wage....in normal
conditions...when they get paid.
This season, the abalone fishery for the other coop was really hampered by big swells so they didnt get the big income they usually do. Too bad they
have been overfishing sardines but I guess they do what they gotta do sometimes. Bahia Tortugas didnt even have an abalone season this year so they
are probably suffering too.
The government also hasnt paid the city workers either...which is why the highway is blocked in Sta.Rosalia....this is a problem in the whole
municipality of Mulege....but the workers keep working thank goodness and our garbage is picked up.
My point was that the village has a pretty good standard of living compared to other places and in general has a vibrant economy not dependent on
tourism.
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CaboMagic
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Everyone certainly has their needs to consider - personal, financial, spiritual, medical - Dennis, Buddha, Vgabndo, rts551, Alm, Howard, Mula,
bledito, bajaguy, BajaBlanca - anyone - - what am I leaving out?.
I'm often asked about moving to Cabo by customers. Its a difficult challenge for me to toe the line between candor without wishing to dampen the
enthusiasm of their dreams.
Of course Bahia Asuncion is dependent on tourism - that is a bit of a disingenuous statement - how else could you possibly have built all that you
have ? The campground, restaurant, bed & breakfast, more pangas all required dinero to purchase, which isn't farmed from the land or the sea.
Just sayin'.
I wish everyone to find their place, where they get to live the life they dream of, because I still like to believe that dreams can, and do, come
true.
This is an interesting discussion.
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shari
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Actually Cabo Magic...we dont near break even on tourism and what we build is done with the money from Juan's abalone fishing and in the very
beginning a small loan from my bro. We built a new room each year...block by block...rock by rock doing much of the work ourselves.
There is very little tourism here and you can count the expats who live here full time on your fingers... so the town does NOT at all depend on it.
Many people think there is more going on here than there actually is but if you visited you would see that the visitors are few and far
between...which is one of the things I like about the place.
sorry for the highjack...just sayin...
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tiotomasbcs
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No entiendo. Didn't Vagabundo get a little off point? Shari has repeatedly expressed her Love for Asuncion.It's a beautiful location. Thats what
the OP was asking. Not some city/ complex political banter. I want to hear about the flies in Abre? Not! Keep this positive. I won't share
regarding my local haunt. I'm with Alm, this may be some dregg looking for mag material. Come on down and find it, Amigos. Another Pacifico,
por favor. Tio
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CaboMagic
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Awww shux .. clever diversion .. but reading between the lines, dinero from tourism is necessary or else who would be renting the places you are
building ? - and there aint no such thing as breaking even in biz in MX - you know that!!
Best wishes for success and happiness - whatever your definition may be.
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shari
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I urge you to come and visit Asuncion...so you will see for yourself it is NOT dependant on tourism. (not meant to be clever)
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David K
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From my few times visiting observations and readings: Bahía Asunción is indeed a commercial fishing town. That a few gringos have vacation places
there doesn't change that. If the abalone, lobster, and yellowtail all disappeared there would never be close to enough gringo dollars spent to
replace that fishing industry... the town would nearly vanish.
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | From my few times visiting observations and readings: Bahía Asunción is indeed a commercial fishing town. That a few gringos have vacation places
there doesn't change that. If the abalone, lobster, and yellowtail all disappeared there would never be close to enough gringo dollars spent to
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That's right. It's a fishing village, not a tourist destination. I went once to check it out, stayed 1/2 hour and left. I'm not a fisherman and my
wife didn't want to stay. We went to San Ignacio for the night.
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Paulclark
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Anywhere between San Jose and La Ribera has a flavor and life style that blend the old with the new. Close to good medical services, international
airport, box stores and services you cannot find anywhere else on the peninsula, and good fishing, surfing and miles of white sand beaches. The all
inclusive tourists seldom venture out and the feeling is safe and secure with good relations between the Choyeros and the Expats. 19 years on and I
don't know where would be better.
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DENNIS
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Nice to see you're still hangin' in down there, Paul.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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chuckie
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I lived on and off, full time.part time, sometimes in Mulege for over 35 years....I am gone from there now....For reasons I am sure some people will
find silly.....I got bored with it, pretty much. Seemed as the population got older, the same old stuff went on in the same places on the same days of
the week. If it makes any sense, the "life" seemed to have gone away.....The fishing remained OK, no longer spectacular, the Mexican people remained
wonderful, but it was the same stuff over and over....Add to that the hurricane threat, I moved out of the river bottom a while ago.....I have spent
time in Ascuncion, and it is more to my taste now than many places, because it is what it is....Shari describes it well....I don't need nor want to
live in Gringoville in Mexico..I may not get back to Baja, for health reasons, but ya never know.....I do know Ascuncion will be on the list of
places to spend time..
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maryellen50
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Now in the Punta Banda/Ensenada area for 4 months; prior to that Estero Beach for 1 month. Leaving Baja as soon as weather cools & going to
mainland Mexico. Too many Americans here with little real culture and cheaper on the mainland and weather here is becoming too hot for me. In
general, just bored living here in Baja.
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | Let me suggest this to anyone thinking of moving to Baja, or anywhere else for that matter.
Sit down with a very large pad of paper and list everything you think you would WANT in your new location. It could be as simple as municipal supplied
water (not delivered to your pila), fast internet speed or a short walk to the beach. It may be more complicated as being close to a US specialty
hospital or medical treatment......don't forget shopping, cultural events, weather.....hot or hurricanes, fun things you like to do, being close to
other ex-pats, and proximity to the US border (airports, relatives and friends) ......this list is your wants or would like to have list.
A week later, sit down with another pad of paper and start a NEEDS list. This list should be shorter than your WANTS list and contain everything you
will need to survive in a new location. It might be nice living in a small fishing village in BCS, but if you need specific medical procedures, is
that small fishing village practical??
After you complete your lists, start looking for places that meet the NEEDS list and have many of the things on your WANT list.
An example would be if you need to visit the VA hospital every other month, is Cabo or LaPaz a viable option, or would you be better off living in
Ensenada, a 2 hour drive to the San Diego VA facilities ??
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2X what Baja guy said but in addition I love Punta Banda where I have lived for 10+ years:
Only 1/2 hour to Ensenada where you can find almost anything you would find in Boston (except the weather)
During my time here there has never been a wintertime overnight frost and I've never seen it hotter than LOW 80s in the summer time.
Premium and cost free basic health care as a member of Seguraro Popular and only 2 hours to the border for anything major
No gangs,graffiti or drug cartel problems
Only 2 hours to TJ airport for those cheap flights to the tourist destinations on the mainland
Plenty of real nice and friendly locals and ex-pats
Cost of living, including utilities 1/3 of what it is in Boston
Million dollar view of Bahia Tods Santos and watching the Cruise Ships come and go.
Bob Durrell
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motoged
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Nice front yard, Bob 
Don't believe everything you think....
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