| Pages:
1
2
3
4 |
rayfornario
Nomad
Posts: 169
Registered: 2-23-2007
Location: Imperial Beach, Ca
Member Is Offline
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by sancho  | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
Please explain what you said above. Are you saying that if you buy a 6 month FMM you can avoid completing a form on your next walk across entry? That
you can use the FMM for multiple entries?
Yes, that is what it means. To me, it is just an added tax to what was once free. You can make as many trips as you want, no more custom forms to fill
out which means you can just walk through. I did it today.
[Edited on 8-21-2015 by SFandH] |
That is my ? too, OP, are you under the impression you can
pay for a 180 day fmm, then use it for a return trip to Baja?
|
Even a bad day in Baja is better then a good day somewhere else!
|
|
|
SFandH
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7215
Registered: 8-5-2011
Member Is Offline
|
|
Sancho, sounds like that's it. Even though the process contradicts what is said on the back of the card. Maybe they have changed the FMM card.
Good! I guess...............
[Edited on 8-21-2015 by SFandH]
|
|
|
fdt
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4059
Registered: 9-7-2003
Location: Tijuana, Baja California
Member Is Offline
Mood: Yeah, what if it all goes right
|
|
A video on facebook of a gringa looking mexican crossing with no questions asked
https://www.facebook.com/TJTQ.mx/videos/vb.266782340113636/4...
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
|
|
|
elgatoloco
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4342
Registered: 11-19-2002
Location: Yes
Member Is Offline
|
|
Word! 
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
|
|
|
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline
|
|
The problem with that is if you are only going to TJ for the day, you will have to pay for Mexican insurance, unless you are crazy.
|
|
|
woody with a view
PITA Nomad
Posts: 15939
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
Member Is Offline
Mood: Everchangin'
|
|
no problem, since i NEVER go to TJ for the day, week or month. it's the same as LA. the best part about TJ is getting past it on the way to anywhere
else......
|
|
|
LaTijereta
Super Nomad
Posts: 1192
Registered: 8-27-2003
Location: Loreto
Member Is Offline
|
|
Is that the same line you would use if you have a "RP" immigration card??
Democracy is like two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin (1759)
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65106
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
Along the same thinking as Kris... HOW DO THEY KNOW YOUR FMM IS VALID unless you show it to them, and there is no signed line for those with valid
FMMs, SO YOU STILL WILL BE IN A LINE OF PEOPLE who don't have it yet!!
|
|
|
rayfornario
Nomad
Posts: 169
Registered: 2-23-2007
Location: Imperial Beach, Ca
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Along the same thinking as Kris... HOW DO THEY KNOW YOUR FMM IS VALID unless you show it to them, and there is no signed line for those with valid
FMMs, SO YOU STILL WILL BE IN A LINE OF PEOPLE who don't have it yet!! |
The way they did it today was just to show it to him with my passport and then you go through. Only difference is no questions and no forms. It saves
time...
Even a bad day in Baja is better then a good day somewhere else!
|
|
|
rayfornario
Nomad
Posts: 169
Registered: 2-23-2007
Location: Imperial Beach, Ca
Member Is Offline
|
|
Now lets see what its like on a weekend day. Heading down tomorrow to take my wife out for lunch. Hopefully with enough complaints this will go by the
wayside. If not, when they open the Virginia street P.O.E, that will alleviate congestion.
Even a bad day in Baja is better then a good day somewhere else!
|
|
|
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
Posts: 19347
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Online
Mood: Hot n spicy
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Along the same thinking as Kris... HOW DO THEY KNOW YOUR FMM IS VALID unless you show it to them, and there is no signed line for those with valid
FMMs, SO YOU STILL WILL BE IN A LINE OF PEOPLE who don't have it yet!! |
That's not how it works. Calm down. Take a deep breath. Relax. It ain't bad. Don't worry, be happy.
Peace out!
Feel the Bern!
[Edited on 8-22-2015 by mtgoat666]
|
|
|
rayfornario
Nomad
Posts: 169
Registered: 2-23-2007
Location: Imperial Beach, Ca
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Along the same thinking as Kris... HOW DO THEY KNOW YOUR FMM IS VALID unless you show it to them, and there is no signed line for those with valid
FMMs, SO YOU STILL WILL BE IN A LINE OF PEOPLE who don't have it yet!! |
That's not how it works. Calm down. Take a deep breath. Relax. It ain't bad. Don't worry, be happy.
Peace out!
Feel the Bern!
Just came back from TJ. Once you have the 180 day FMM; you go in the same line as Mexican nationals to the left. If asked, Show your 180 day FMM. No
more line!
[Edited on 8-22-2015 by mtgoat666] |
Even a bad day in Baja is better then a good day somewhere else!
|
|
|
SFandH
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7215
Registered: 8-5-2011
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by rayfornario |
Just came back from TJ. Once you have the 180 day FMM; you go in the same line as Mexican nationals to the left. If asked, Show your 180 day FMM. No
more line!
|
thanks for the info
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65106
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
So, even though you aren't a Mexican, you use their line? Is that their instructions, wow? It is good that they told you you can use the FMM for as
many crossings into Mexico you want for the 180 days.
|
|
|
rayfornario
Nomad
Posts: 169
Registered: 2-23-2007
Location: Imperial Beach, Ca
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | So, even though you aren't a Mexican, you use their line? Is that their instructions, wow? It is good that they told you you can use the FMM for as
many crossings into Mexico you want for the 180 days. |
Yep! I think it is a way for them to control the congestion around the counters when people are filling out there customs forms. You just go on the
Mexican National line and they just glance at if asked.
What is funny is that all the employees are hired if they speak good english, however, many of the people having to fill out forms are Chinese, Korean
and other nationalities and the forms are only in english! The line gets bogged down because they can't fill out the forms and are turned back to the
U.S
All of that business is what Tijuana is losing. My friend who runs one of the bars on Revolution said you could see the difference on Friday night
because many of the young people from San Diego that would normally go down for a night are fun, are not coming due to the new passport requirements.
Talk about a bad business decision!
Even a bad day in Baja is better then a good day somewhere else!
|
|
|
SFandH
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7215
Registered: 8-5-2011
Member Is Offline
|
|
Americans who walk across regularly will just need to get passports and buy the 180 day permit. I know there are costs involved but not a lot of
money. The TJ tourist businesses that cater to day and night trippers will take a hit, again.
A benefit nobody has mentioned is that this means the US officials dealing with Americans walking back from TJ will no longer need to inspect birth
certificates and other forms of ID. All Americans will have a passport. And eventually they will all be RFID. The lines back into the US will move
faster.
Here is some interesting data that has been repeated in the recent news articles.
"About 25,000 pedestrians (and 50,000 motorists) cross daily at San Ysidro to work, shop and play but it is unclear how many are foreigners in Mexico.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection says about one-third entering San Diego are U.S. citizens, one-third are U.S. legal residents and the rest are from
other countries, largely Mexico."
http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_28672691/u-s-pede...
[Edited on 8-23-2015 by SFandH]
|
|
|
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline
|
|
Anyone else think that the Mexican requirement for a passport even for pedestrians is not because of pressure exerted by the US immigration folks,
just to lighten their load?
Since the drug war carnage that wracked the TJ area a few years ago seems to have abated, the passport requirement by the US has seemed to put a total
damper on tourism in TJ.
|
|
|
laventana
Nomad
Posts: 216
Registered: 8-24-2006
Member Is Offline
Mood: sharing
|
|
thanks for the info....very helpful timely thread.
I have a current FMM and USA passport and now will be going through the Mexicans only lane with luggage friday. So this thread has answered my
critical issues, was the FMM good for multiple entries and also pointed me to the time saving Mexicans crossing to use... Thanks a boatload. We
will see if it makes a difference with luggage, shouldn't. I am sure all still have the stop light random button for all.
I am also assuming this will be much more navigable with 2 suitcases of 50 lbs each. The old one was a challenge to put it mildly on the cutback
section after existing..
Not that it will be hard to find, but where is the new entrance. The temporary one was kind of rural. Going behind buildings dumpsters and such
on the US side and such. Then dumped into the sea of people in line heading to the USA.
The reason I ask is you walked another 300 or so yards before to get the taxis for the airport. Obviously there will be taxis, and probably in a
more formal exit is my impression? can anyone comment on that? IE does the exit dump area add on more time to get the airport, do I need to budget
in more time? Which I will be budgeting more time now, just because kinks may be working themselves out.
Can not wait till they get that OM walkway done....
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65106
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd | Anyone else think that the Mexican requirement for a passport even for pedestrians is not because of pressure exerted by the US immigration folks,
just to lighten their load?
Since the drug war carnage that wracked the TJ area a few years ago seems to have abated, the passport requirement by the US has seemed to put a total
damper on tourism in TJ. |
I think it finally offers an effective method for stopping criminals and kidnappers from escaping into Mexico. Now start looking for people on the
American side sneaking across the border going south... for a change!
|
|
|
rayfornario
Nomad
Posts: 169
Registered: 2-23-2007
Location: Imperial Beach, Ca
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by laventana | thanks for the info....very helpful timely thread.
I have a current FMM and USA passport and now will be going through the Mexicans only lane with luggage friday. So this thread has answered my
critical issues, was the FMM good for multiple entries and also pointed me to the time saving Mexicans crossing to use... Thanks a boatload. We
will see if it makes a difference with luggage, shouldn't. I am sure all still have the stop light random button for all.
I am also assuming this will be much more navigable with 2 suitcases of 50 lbs each. The old one was a challenge to put it mildly on the cutback
section after existing..
Not that it will be hard to find, but where is the new entrance. The temporary one was kind of rural. Going behind buildings dumpsters and such
on the US side and such. Then dumped into the sea of people in line heading to the USA.
The reason I ask is you walked another 300 or so yards before to get the taxis for the airport. Obviously there will be taxis, and probably in a
more formal exit is my impression? can anyone comment on that? IE does the exit dump area add on more time to get the airport, do I need to budget
in more time? Which I will be budgeting more time now, just because kinks may be working themselves out.
Can not wait till they get that OM walkway done.... |
The new entrance is to the left of the old entrance, you can't miss it. The luggage will have to go through x-ray scanner. The sidewalk will take you
right to the taxis....same location where they were before.
Even a bad day in Baja is better then a good day somewhere else!
|
|
|
| Pages:
1
2
3
4 |
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
