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watizname
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Never been stopped at the border for empty cans. Fill them in Northern Baja. 
I yam what I yam and that\'s all what I yam.
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BigWooo
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I don't know if the newer trucks that require ULSD are different from my 2008 Duramax that requires ULSD...but I've been running mine on Baja Sur
diesel for 6 years. I have read the particulate filter will fail early, and usually around 100,000 miles if you don't use ULSD. I believe that's the
only downside to not using ULSD.
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chuckie
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My Daughter had her 2014 Duramax in Mulege for about a month...Still living....What is the Manufacturers position on ULSD and Warranties?...?????
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woody with a view
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how would they know what you put in, assuming your filter failed in 8 years? you'd just say i put in whatever that stuff is that comes out of the
pumps at Chevron. you would never admit to being in a foreign country, right?
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woody with a view
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or, if you couldn't face yourself, just add in the cost to replace in 100k miles to your yearly budget.
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chuckie
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Nomads stretch the Truth? Bite your tongue! I just got off the phone with Dodge Customer Service/Warranty folks.. The owners manual for the new
Cummins Diesels (I don't have one) according to them, clearly states that the warranty is nichts goot if ULSD is not used...Like it's void,
Dude...Next time I get to a Dodge store I will look it up...I doubt it would cause a catastrophic failure, and wonder what real damage would be caused
by running 6-700 Gallons of non ULSD through an engine...Conjecture....
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surfhat
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Sprinters and Baja diesel
Tecatero, try going on the Sprinter Forum site before you buy and all will be revealed. Lots of good info from a lot of generous patrons like we have
here, always willing to help.
When I bought my 06 five years ago, the Dodge sprinter service manager on Balboa in SD, clearly stated if I intended to go to Baja, don't buy a model
later than an '06. People were having to be towed back and this was in 2010 using LSD on their newer models of the time.
Mexican Sprinters are devoid of the upgrades [?] added after '07 and run great. Ours, not so much. Expensive to fix and no fun having to tow them back
and have them go into Limp Mode Home on those skinny roads.
One company in France makes direct replacement aluminum tanks ACGM, using the same sender that can give a 1200 mile range or more but importing these
ends up costing around $2,000 when all is said and done. Last time I checked no one was making direct replacement tanks in the states which is nuts.
Not enough demand I suppose.
There are some second tanks available through the Sprinter Store in Oregon but due to some limitations in the way they functioned were not what I
wanted.
Depending on the model year you end up with, there might be some special tunes that can help get around the damage that will be done using LSD on 07up
models.
Find an '06 that can work for you and you are home free.
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brucedog
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I just want to thank all of you for bringing this topic up again... I'm new to this forum and new to having a diesel. Heading to La Ventana next
month in my 2015 Sprinter. I had heard that there is an additive that helps and also that it's best not to idle a lot when using Low Sulfur Diesel.
Has anybody heard of that?
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Hook
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Quote: Originally posted by brucedog  | | I just want to thank all of you for bringing this topic up again... I'm new to this forum and new to having a diesel. Heading to La Ventana next
month in my 2015 Sprinter. I had heard that there is an additive that helps and also that it's best not to idle a lot when using Low Sulfur Diesel.
Has anybody heard of that? |
So, you're going for it, even after the experiences that surfhat has relayed? 
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bajaguy
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ULSD
I have a 2011 Ram with the Cummins 6.7 turbo diesel
Owners manual says ULSD only. I'll stay above Jesus Maria
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surfhat
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sprinter vans
I suggest you go to the Sprinter Forum site before driving your 2015 Sprinter van anywhere south of El Rosario and further on south of there at Jesus
Maria. There is no ULSD from there on.
There are no additives that can prevent the expensive damage you will do to your van running it on LSD and in addition possibly violating your MB
warranty.
Some earlier models can be tuned to delete a couple of the systems most affected by LSD use, but your 2015 is too new to have these available.
The best of the tuners is GDE, Green Diesel Engineering, for our Sprinter vans. Give them a call and learn for yourself what is and what is not
possible to allow you to run LSD without risking some very expensive repairs and a tow back to the border.
One of those extended range tanks I mentioned earlier could give you enough range to make it from El Rosario in the north to the East Cape and back
and as little mixing as possible of LSD and ULSD with a 66 gallon tank the size of one of these, could get you by.
These vans can be exasperating if not treated as designed and going into LMH or shutting down on that narrow two lane road completely, will not be
fun.
That all being said, Happy Trails. It is a beautiful drive in the daylight hours and is worth stopping every evening before dark. DO NOT PLAN TO DRIVE
AT NIGHT. It is not worth it, plus you miss put on the scenery. Those black cows just love the roadside and blend in all too well in the darkness. An
added LED light bar on the front end is highly recommended in case you get caught in the darkness but stopping for the evening and enjoying a Baja
sunset is always the best choice.
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surfhat
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I forgot to include a word about idling. Do not do it. It will clog up and shut you down more than anything else you could do in these vans. Go to
the Sprinter Forum site and read up about this. There is a high idle option available that mitigates the soot build up but it is limited and so should
any idling you may consider doing.
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tecatero
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I just read a few days ago of a 2014 Sprinter the guy drove back from Cabo non stop in fear of sulfur poisoning...He was running LSD, not ULSD and his
DFP was doing a Re-generation cycle, however it did not boot. So his dash said 8 starts left , then 7, then 6,etc,,,, basically drove 18 hours
straight, he had 2 starts left when he got to the border and limped it to the dealer. It was ok, according to him and the dealer rebooted the cycle
via software. I am on hold for my Sprinter purchase due to the time i spend in BCS. I would be very weary of letting the dealer know anything about
being in Mex, running non ULSD. Also, Pemex has halted all new refinery processing expansions on making ULSD because of low crude prices,,,,so its
looking like 2017, if ever, at the earliest. I ll try and find the link and post it on here
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Bob and Susan
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it's always some other guy...and he wrote on the internet...
has ANYONE here had trouble?
it's an epa requirement for diesels to use only ulsd...your diesel will run
this last guy had a computer problem and it need to be "flashed" with updated data...that's all
don't believe everything that's written on the internet
...maybe this too : )
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tecatero
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Here it is, if its BS this guy should write some novels. I agree most is BS on internet, but before I drop 50K I take heed to all info:, its a good
read anyway
http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?p=412299
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bajaguy
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I'm not going to risk a $50K investment based on
what the automotive engineers on this page say (or think).....I'll follow the owners manual and protect my truck and the warranty.
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chuckie
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Yup....That first person horror story on the Sprinter forum would prevent me from taking a newer one to Baja Sur. Or, I think even buying a newer one
as they sound way too hi-tech ....I sometimes think about trading Ol Smokey, but then read something like that and put my checkbook away...VIVA old
trucks!!!!
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | Yup....That first person horror story on the Sprinter forum would prevent me from taking a newer one to Baja Sur. Or, I think even buying a newer one
as they sound way too hi-tech ....I sometimes think about trading Ol Smokey, but then read something like that and put my checkbook away...VIVA old
trucks!!!! |
there we go... "don't cross the border"
the myth continues...
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chuckie
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there we go, saying something that was never said...Where did I say anything about not crossing the border????? You are living in a time
warp.....There are problems with taking one of the new sprinters south, and since you don't own one, who are you to say there are not...??? Maybe
because you own a destination resort , you cant face reality? YOUR myth continues....
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basautter
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Again?
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