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bajatrailrider
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Another tip,if you see red clay and its raining or soaking wet.Go back the way you came.It wont matter what tires,or rig you have.You will get stuck.
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that's like saying "The moon is too far away - we can't go there."
Everything has a solution
here is the Russian answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbDe5dEu07I
[Edited on 11-2-2015 by 4x4abc]
Harald Pietschmann
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chuckie
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How many Russians go to Baja?
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....and how many go to the Kansas prairies?
Here they come, Chuckie....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxymMyaLEY
Don't believe everything you think....
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too much man-skin Ged
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Da Tovarich! This whole county was settled by Russians...Lutherans to boot eh?
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You, my friend are Wrong.
Momentum is important in many situations off road. Finesse is important in others.
The relatively small mud hole we saw a photo of at the beginning of this thread was attempted with not enough of either.
I wonder why the vehicles front tires are neither sunk down nor is there any evidence of wheel spin- no mud flung up on vehicle...? Looks as though he
just parked it there.
Weird.
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Yeah....I was a bit embarrassed for Ken that :
#1) he got stuck like that
#2) That he posted the photo 
Don't believe everything you think....
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Tioloco
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You got that right Ged. I am still chuckling...
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chuckie
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I deen wan say something..But Yeah...
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I'm guessing that had the vehicle been properly serviced prior to the trip ie: changed the windshield washer fluid, upgrading to CO2 in the tires, re
flashing the flux capacitor....
This mud hole would have learned its lesson.
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The Guadalupe Valley had a sizeable Russian settlement from sometime in the 1800s:
http://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/guadalupe...
The museum at the Guadalupe mission site in Francisco Zarco has a nice little exhibit on the Molokans. The lady who was manning the museum when I was
there a few months ago had a Russian last name.
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Chuckie,
As you know....our impulsivity and wit overcomes our better manners
....and I will let the comment about ArmorAll keeping mud off the tires slip.... 
[Edited on 11-3-2015 by motoged]
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Armorall was not me...I always use eggwhite, brushed on lightly, and sun dried to keep the mud off the tires...
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Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  | abc4x4
You, my friend are Wrong.
Momentum is important in many situations off road. Finesse is important in others.
The relatively small mud hole we saw a photo of at the beginning of this thread was attempted with not enough of either.
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I have been wrong before.
So glad, we don't have to bother with science on this forum.
Just the manly men stuff.
Step on it! Gas it!
Hear it all the time. Must be very popular.
Allow me one question though. How does momentum (brute force) go with finesse (delicate driving)?
The way I see it, when something gets difficult - you want to do it slowly. Controlled.
Like mountain climbing. With skill, the right equipment and a slow pace, you are almost guaranteed success.
Without the skills and/or without proper gear, you might just scramble up the wall. Works in cartoons.
They still teach it in Land Rover schools.
Harald Pietschmann
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco | abc4x4
You, my friend are Wrong.
Momentum is important in many situations off road. Finesse is important in others.
The relatively small mud hole we saw a photo of at the beginning of this thread was attempted with not enough of either.
I wonder why the vehicles front tires are neither sunk down nor is there any evidence of wheel spin- no mud flung up on vehicle...? Looks as though he
just parked it there.
Weird. |
Careful, not only is he a German, but he wrote the book on 4WD driving! 
I think what a lot of folks don't get or have is the modern traction controls many 4WD vehicles fro Toyota and Mercedes and other makes have now,
invented by Bosch. Toyota calls its Bosch inspired system A-TRAC. These traction systems sense a loss of traction and can brake just the one tire that
spins while the other three can keep pulling.
In the old days of open differentials and one tire per axle spinning and the other doing nothing OR locking differentials that make both tires spin on
that axle, can require momentum, in the same sense that 2WD vehicles use momentum to cross low traction areas. Unfortunately, momentum is what breaks
things!
Low air pressure, traction controls, and tire placement are the keys to crawling slow and safe up and over low traction situations.
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Don't believe everything you think....
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chuckie
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Be patient Ed....He'll have lotsa pictures of the cover...
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Abc-
I know, I know... Sometimes some of us Americans are over the top. But do a google on Formula Offroad and you will see there is more out there than
Land Rover school. It takes all kinds.
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Slow and steady with traction control will not get you thru the dunes. It does work in the rocks though.
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