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Pescador
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Almost all of the land at Chivato has been privatized. If there was a fideo on the property before you will just transfer to a new owner. Yes,
Chivato was owned by the ejido of San Bruno and was split into parcels. Each Ejido member got a parcel and they did a major privatization when they
got away from leasing lots and started selling them. If you are looking at a property that has not been privatized, then do not look any further,
because it is almost impossible to get it privatized, which happens through the Agrarian Court.
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Russ
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I haven't heard of Julieta doing Fido's recently. Jose at the Realestate
Place across from the water shop has been doing a really good job. He has really good contacts to facilitate the process. Speaks English too. I'm NOB
so don't have his info handy, sorry.
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Thanks Russ. WIll try and track him down
�The average man does not want to be free. He simply wants to be safe.� � Mencken
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Russ
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Another thing you may want to look into is weather or not there has been an environmental study done. I added 25 meters to my lot and before I did th
improvements I checked and they want $12,000usd for the study and permit to do any improvements. When I return i'm going
to ask Jose if he can get it done for less. This should have been done before the ejido members started selling lots on Shell Beach. Now PROFEPA is
going after the lot owners. This is a pretty big deal because if PROFEPA decides you are their next target the fines, study and lawyer can be a huge
cost
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Pescador
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Russ is right, Robin's office is right across from the downtown water store. Jose is up to speed on doing the fideo's and should be able to tell you
that any house or lot that you are looking at is up to snuff. The two people that Julieta helped out were done only because of friend connections and
she does not plan to come up to do any more.
Here is the info on Robin who posts here as ROBINhood.
http://www.mulege-properties.com/
Skype: mulegeproperties
1 619 502 9290 (USA)
+52-1-615-153-1035 (From the USA) Office.
+52-1-615-153-1123 (From the USA Home
615-153-1035/615-153-1123 from Mexico
If you happen to get a Spanish speaker on either line please don't get frustrated - just email me and I will call you back at your convenience.
*Stop for a cappuccino, sweet roll, or an organic lasagna at MAGO's Bakery all winter long.*
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JC43
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Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  | | Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | Punta Chivato is certainly a nice spot. No doubt. But there is a But you should think about before buying. No water no power.
Water is carried in by truck. Power = solar = hassle with batteries and such. If you like the Mulege area, why not thinking about Mulege itself.
Power and water as much as you can pay for. Just an idea.
Good Luck anyway. |
While you can certainly carry water in by truck, Punta Chivato has a water system piping water directly to your house.
You get your power through solar, batteries and/or generators.
Mulege has an advantage when it comes to internet access though. In Punta Chivato, you have to get it through satellite. |
I know that practice from Cabo San Lucas > private water supply. Those private water associations (or call them water companies) can charge you
whatever they want. Here in CSL we have more than one private water companies for different subdivisions pulling the homeowners over the table. And
you can`t do nothing about it. Can you move your house to a better area? Nope!
Considering buying or building in Mulege, you have the advantage to deal with SAPA, the official Mexican water company for the area. And SAPA is not
pulling you over the table as everybody - Us folks and Mexicans - are paying the same amount. Sapa charges 115 Mexican Pesos a month if you have a
waterline supplying your house. If you get your water from the well at Icehouse road yourself, it is for free. Many folks do that and it is easy and
fun.
Other advantage which speaks for Mulege. Internet! (very important) Power! The power bill in Mulege is about 350 MX Pesos for a two month period w/o
A/C.
No hassle with solar and batteries and all the unhealthy fumes.
No extra room for that stuff. No panels on the roof. Solar is a costly hassle!
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healthdetective
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Pescador
I spoke to Julieta today and she is looking into things for me. Thanks for the recommendation.
Russ
There is a small house on the small property. While I will want to improve it's condition do you think the government regulations you spoke of would
apply in this instance?
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Russ
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healthdetective, check your U2U
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The property with the small wall around it next to "fish camp"?
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healthdetective
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BajaMama,
No, that isn't it. Once papers are signed I will happily disclose. Sorry, it's a weird superstition with me.
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | ....If you get your water from the well at Icehouse road yourself, it is for free. Many folks do that and it is easy and fun.
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well...that's NOT true...water at the well is paid for by the people that fill there...you need an account with SAPA
currently there is a guard and a chain when its closed...the valve is closed at night...
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JC43
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | | Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | ....If you get your water from the well at Icehouse road yourself, it is for free. Many folks do that and it is easy and fun.
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well...that's NOT true...water at the well is paid for by the people that fill there...you need an account with SAPA
currently there is a guard and a chain when its closed...the valve is closed at night...
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Again:::: Not true Sr Bob&Susan. As far as I know you are getting the water as a commercial entity. Yes, you have to pay for the water !
I was talking getting the water as a private guy. And there you get it for free. I do have plenty of friends not having a water line to their house.
And they are getting the water at the well for free. Period.
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | | Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | | Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | ....If you get your water from the well at Icehouse road yourself, it is for free. Many folks do that and it is easy and fun.
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well...that's NOT true...water at the well is paid for by the people that fill there...you need an account with SAPA
currently there is a guard and a chain when its closed...the valve is closed at night...
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Again:::: Not true Sr Bob&Susan. As far as I know you are getting the water as a commercial entity. Yes, you have to pay for the water !
I was talking getting the water as a private guy. And there you get it for free. I do have plenty of friends not having a water line to their house.
And they are getting the water at the well for free. Period. |
i'm sure they accommodate hardship cases...
the water is NOT free...everyone is supposed to pay
your understanding of the water situation is incorrect...maybe you should visit the sapa office and talk to the director...i'm sure she will set you
straight
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JC43
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | | Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | | Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | | Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | ....If you get your water from the well at Icehouse road yourself, it is for free. Many folks do that and it is easy and fun.
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well...that's NOT true...water at the well is paid for by the people that fill there...you need an account with SAPA
currently there is a guard and a chain when its closed...the valve is closed at night...
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Again:::: Not true Sr Bob&Susan. As far as I know you are getting the water as a commercial entity. Yes, you have to pay for the water !
I was talking getting the water as a private guy. And there you get it for free. I do have plenty of friends not having a water line to their house.
And they are getting the water at the well for free. Period. |
i'm sure they accommodate hardship cases...
the water is NOT free...everyone is supposed to pay
your understanding of the water situation is incorrect...maybe you should visit the sapa office and talk to the director...i'm sure she will set you
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Why are you so stubborn denying facts. The fact that the water is free for those who have to get it from the well has nothing to do with hardship
cases or such. That is big BS.
YOUR understanding of what`s going on at the well is incorrect. Many of our friends who have to go to the well and getting the water there do not have
to pay anything.
Granted by the former director.
And the one before the former director.
And the current one, which is a woman.
All of our friends have a sticker at the water truck or trailer issued by the former or currant director telling the guy at the well that they can
pick up the water for free.
If you like it or not THAT IS A FACT.
That you have to pay for getting water for a commercial business is a different story.
So, start learning and do not post BS here.
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chuckie
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JC43, you have posted more BS and lies about Mulege and its people than all else on this forum combined. Anything you write is suspect and likely
written with some con in mind...BEWARE of this guy folks....BEWARE
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | JC43, you have posted more BS and lies about Mulege and its people than all else on this forum combined. Anything you write is suspect and likely
written with some con in mind...BEWARE of this guy folks....BEWARE |
Under normal circumstances a post from "chuckie" is not worth to respond to. He is just too old to catch the point in many posts here. Different this
time, as it must be made clear who is the big liar here.
I have supplied evidence in another thread that "chuckie" is a backstabber. Constantly attacking other users with personal attacks.
Now, Mister "chuckie" I am asking you to come up with one single evidence about a lie I posted here. A lie about Mulege or its people. As you said.
JUST ONE!
If you can`t do that I am officially calling you a liar!
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Nah, I am not doing your homework for you...I am NOT a "Backstabber" My opinions of you are expressed right up front As to your opinions on my age,
your prejudice is just one more indicator of your mentality.....I don't care what you call me....You have NO credibility.....
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | Nah, I am not doing your homework for you...I am NOT a "Backstabber" My opinions of you are expressed right up front As to your opinions on my age,
your prejudice is just one more indicator of your mentality.....I don't care what you call me....You have NO credibility..... |
YEP, I guessed,,,,,, no, I knew it,,,,, that you can`t come up with only one single lie I posted here about Mulege or its people.
Because I never did!
Even more, it is not my homework! I was asking you to come up with one single evidence. So, the ball is on you! But you are using a poor excuse
because you can`t come up with nothing.
A backstabber and liar you are.
It is YOUR credibility which is going down the drain!!!
Oh, I have to reverse that. In general a liar like you has no credibility at all.
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Thank you for your input, JC43....
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What about your input, Mister? Do you have anything to contribute to the headline --- instead of personal attacks?
I tried my best by pointing out about the positives and negatives of living in a community like Punta Chivato - compaired to i.e. Mulege. That`s what
the headline was somehow about. Well, a little bit aside, I have to admit. But anyway, I contributed at least something to this thread. You did
nothing else but posting personal attacks --- or call it: Kansas Prairie Dog chit.
I feel sorry for you that you are such a stubborn old guy.
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