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Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  | I have yet to come across someone "real" that has said..."yup I burned Mexican diesel and my engine broke down"
lots of talk on the internet about what will happen but no real people saying THIS is what happened
jz is the first "real" person to say he had blew a "code"
remember ulsd is used to reduce emissions for the manufacturer...they can NEVER say another diesel fuel wil burn in the truck or they pay a fine to
the epa
don't you think those farmers in north Dakota and Kansas put that "red diesel" in their trucks...hell yea
if you leave your tank empty here in south baja you'll get moisture in your fuel for sure and unless you have a water separator installed your truck
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your info is a bit old. in the usa most (all?) off-road (red) diesel is now ultra-low sulfur.
btw, don't get caught running red diesel in your on-road autos, the fines aint cheap.
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mjs
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | I have yet to come across someone "real" that has said..."yup I burned Mexican diesel and my engine broke down"
lots of talk on the internet about what will happen but no real people saying THIS is what happened
jz is the first "real" person to say he had blew a "code"
remember ulsd is used to reduce emissions for the manufacturer...they can NEVER say another diesel fuel wil burn in the truck or they pay a fine to
the epa
don't you think those farmers in north Dakota and Kansas put that "red diesel" in their trucks...hell yea
if you leave your tank empty here in south baja you'll get moisture in your fuel for sure and unless you have a water separator installed your truck
will run terrible
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your info is a bit old. in the usa most (all?) off-road (red) diesel is now ultra-low sulfur.
btw, don't get caught running red diesel in your on-road autos, the fines aint cheap. |
And the OEM fuel filters have built in water separators including a sensor to notify you of excessive water and the need to drain the filter.
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Dyed diesel and reg diesel are sameo..Dyed is cheaper because "Road and luxury" taxes are not added. Every now and then dyed diesel gets into old
smokey...he don't care.
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do you know anybody that has been continually using Mex low sulfur in an ultra low sulfur engine?
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Your point is still muddy. When you go into a fueling station in Baja, they have ONE kind of Diesel. SO? How do you feel that anyone has a choice?
Here in Farm/Ranch country we do have a choice. Regular, Biofuel, Dyed....Pay your money and make your choice. No one spends a lot of time looking
over their shoulders for the Black Helicopters of "The Man".....
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | you are missing my point...maybe I wasn't clear enough
you are being lead like sheep by "the man"
you can use "crappy" diesel in your truck ...
it just isn't good for the "air quality"
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think about it...don't trust "the man"
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Susan,
What ignorance! Decreased sulfur in fuel makes for cleaner burning fuel and better air quality. The science and engineering is real. where do you
dunderheads get this nonsense?
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Sulfur is used in diesel fuel to lubricate the pump and injectors. It also produces sulfur dioxide emissions that contribute to acid rain. A reduced
level of sulfur was necessary with the introduction of catalytic and NOx emissions equipment.
Using LSD will not hurt your engine. Over time it will foul your emissions equipment, specifically the catalytic converter and particulate filter. For
my Dodge those two replacement parts are $3500 and $2000 respectively. Plus labor.
Initially the engine management system will try to adjust by using more DEF to burn off the particulates but that will not remove the contamination
from the excess sulfur. As the filter becomes more fouled it will restrict the exhaust with a reduction in performance and eventually a check engine
light. Nowadays, all emission codes are stored and can be recalled by the dealer or an inspection agency. Something to consider if your truck is
registered in a State with emissions testing like Calif where they just plug into the truck's computer and look for any codes.
If you own a diesel you should know how to drain excess water from the fuel filter. The instructions have been in the owner's manual for both my Ford
(97) and Dodge (2010). It's about as difficult as checking the oil. A bit more of a mess though as the water / diesel will drain out on the ground. I
usually carry a spare filter also but the quality of Pemex fuel is good enough that I have never needed to use it.
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Water also comes from poorly designed or maintained filling stations. Trust me, I know!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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mjs
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | | Quote: Originally posted by mjs | | ...Over time it will foul your emissions equipment, specifically the catalytic converter and particulate filter. For my Dodge those two replacement
parts are $3500 and $2000 respectively. Plus labor... |
I would shop around...I've been looking at new trucks and these parts can be had for 500-600 dollars installed
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I don't need to shop for anything for my truck...
The cheap replacements are not legal or certified to meet the OEM standards so no-go in Calif. Calif's anti-tampering law prohibits the use of non-OEM
parts unless they have received a special exemption allowing their use as a replacement part. The CARB has a database for legal replacement
converters. A quick search showed no legal aftermarket converters for any Chevy, Dodge or Ford late model (post 2009) diesel trucks.
Buyer beware.
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Kalifornia..pffft
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Thanks for all the info. I am still not sure if I am risking damage to my
MB 250.
I guess I will talk to the dealer.
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chuckie
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Smart move..
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| Quote: Originally posted by mjs | Sulfur is used in diesel fuel to lubricate the pump and injectors. It also produces sulfur dioxide emissions that contribute to acid rain. A reduced
level of sulfur was necessary with the introduction of catalytic and NOx emissions equipment.
Using LSD will not hurt your engine. Over time it will foul your emissions equipment, specifically the catalytic converter and particulate filter. For
my Dodge those two replacement parts are $3500 and $2000 respectively. Plus labor.
Initially the engine management system will try to adjust by using more DEF to burn off the particulates but that will not remove the contamination
from the excess sulfur. As the filter becomes more fouled it will restrict the exhaust with a reduction in performance and eventually a check engine
light. Nowadays, all emission codes are stored and can be recalled by the dealer or an inspection agency. Something to consider if your truck is
registered in a State with emissions testing like Calif where they just plug into the truck's computer and look for any codes.
If you own a diesel you should know how to drain excess water from the fuel filter. The instructions have been in the owner's manual for both my Ford
(97) and Dodge (2010). It's about as difficult as checking the oil. A bit more of a mess though as the water / diesel will drain out on the ground. I
usually carry a spare filter also but the quality of Pemex fuel is good enough that I have never needed to use it. |
Not an issue with a modern diesel. Does your truck not have regen?
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | you are missing my point...maybe I wasn't clear enough
you are being lead like sheep by "the man"
you can use "crappy" diesel in your truck ...
it just isn't good for the "air quality"
...
think about it...don't trust "the man"
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Susan,
What ignorance! Decreased sulfur in fuel makes for cleaner burning fuel and better air quality. The science and engineering is real. where do you
dunderheads get this nonsense? |
California,apparently. Also fined for using "wrong" diesel. Laughable.
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karmatourer
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | you are missing my point...maybe I wasn't clear enough
you are being lead like sheep by "the man"
you can use "crappy" diesel in your truck ...
it just isn't good for the "air quality"
...
think about it...don't trust "the man"
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Susan,
What ignorance! Decreased sulfur in fuel makes for cleaner burning fuel and better air quality. The science and engineering is real. where do you
dunderheads get this nonsense? |
California,apparently. Also fined for using "wrong" diesel. Laughable.
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According to one of the last posts on the Baja Pony Express all of Baja now has ULSD.
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