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BigWooo
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They rarely check. I think it nearly 30 years I've been asked two or three times.
But... what most people don't think about is if, for some reason, you need to be evacuated back to the U.S. in a timely manner for some life
threatening medical condition/accident, not having the proper immigration paperwork will slow down, or depending on the situation even halt the
evacuation process. In a medical emergency time matters.
Just something to think about.
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vandenberg
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If you get into an accident and don't have the proper papers to be in the country, it maybe an issue.
Even it may make your insurance invalid, which, if there'e substantial money involved, will likely be pursuit by the insurance company.
[Edited on 9-25-2016 by vandenberg]
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lhenlex
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Quote: Originally posted by vandenberg  | If you get into an accident and don't have the proper papers to be in the country, it maybe an issue.
Even it may make your insurance invalid, which, if there'e substantial money involved, will likely be pursuit by the insurance company.
[Edited on 9-25-2016 by vandenberg] |
My husband is a mexican citizen. I will get the tourist permit. But my 9 yr old son can't because his passport expired. But he goes to school in
Tijuana so we're just gonna bring his school ID. Hope that works...
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by lhenlex | | Quote: Originally posted by vandenberg | If you get into an accident and don't have the proper papers to be in the country, it maybe an issue.
Even it may make your insurance invalid, which, if there'e substantial money involved, will likely be pursuit by the insurance company.
[Edited on 9-25-2016 by vandenberg] |
My husband is a mexican citizen. I will get the tourist permit. But my 9 yr old son can't because his passport expired. But he goes to school in
Tijuana so we're just gonna bring his school ID. Hope that works... |
It seems a bit odd that your son is in Mexico everyday for school without visa, but you are concerned he needs a visa to travel within Mexico?
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Make sure you have your son's birth certificate to enter back into the USA. They cannot deny entry to a US citizen but I assume you have to prove it!
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DENNIS
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Actually, they can do just about anything they want to do at the moment. The border zone is a good place to bite your tongue, grin and bear it, and
move on. Just consider it a ten minute visit to the dentist.
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lhenlex
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by lhenlex | | Quote: Originally posted by vandenberg | If you get into an accident and don't have the proper papers to be in the country, it maybe an issue.
Even it may make your insurance invalid, which, if there'e substantial money involved, will likely be pursuit by the insurance company.
[Edited on 9-25-2016 by vandenberg] |
My husband is a mexican citizen. I will get the tourist permit. But my 9 yr old son can't because his passport expired. But he goes to school in
Tijuana so we're just gonna bring his school ID. Hope that works... |
It seems a bit odd that your son is in Mexico everyday for school without visa, but you are concerned he needs a visa to travel within Mexico?
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we live 5 mins from the border TJ side..for some reason going further than Rosarito requires the tourist permit or ffm..i only found out about this
when I started researching about driving to Cabos.
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David K
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THAT HAS CHANGED!
There is no longer a "Border zone" where tourist cards are not needed... and that was ONLY if you Mexico stay was no more than 3 days!
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bajatrailrider
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The last two times we passed the mid way point,we did in fact have permits. We where on motos we all pulled out our permits to show. He would not even
look. Told us keep going.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | The last two times we passed the mid way point,we did in fact have permits. We where on motos we all pulled out our permits to show. He would not even
look. Told us keep going. |
I was part of a chase crew and we were supposed to have FMM's issued by SCORE, typical of them those were delayed so we got pulled over, fined,
passports confiscated and lost a full day of prerunning. It's hit and miss but I've never gone back without crossing all the T's and dotting the i's.
I think Mulegena is correct, we're foreigners and should play by the rules where we visit whether it's expedient or not.
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SFandH
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I bet if you go to the FMM office with the expired passport they either won't notice it's expired or won't care. Just keep mum and act surprised if
they say something.
Afterall, it is a US passport. You don't lose citizenship when it expires.
Give it a try.
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lhenlex
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
I bet if you go to the FMM office with the expired passport they either won't notice it's expired or won't care. Just keep mum and act surprised if
they say something.
Afterall, it is a US passport. You don't lose citizenship when it expires.
Give it a try. |
i will! thank you
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| Quote: Originally posted by Sweetwater | | Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | The last two times we passed the mid way point,we did in fact have permits. We where on motos we all pulled out our permits to show. He would not even
look. Told us keep going. |
I was part of a chase crew and we were supposed to have FMM's issued by SCORE, typical of them those were delayed so we got pulled over, fined,
passports confiscated and lost a full day of prerunning. It's hit and miss but I've never gone back without crossing all the T's and dotting the i's.
I think Mulegena is correct, we're foreigners and should play by the rules where we visit whether it's expedient or not. |
wow! what kind of fine and how did you get your passports back?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | THAT HAS CHANGED!
There is no longer a "Border zone" where tourist cards are not needed... and that was ONLY if you Mexico stay was no more than 3 days!
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My reference, "Border zone", was to the crossing. Anyway, the zone you allude to, David, was called the "Free zone" if I'm not mistaken.
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David K
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Hi Dennis, I was responding to the OP (Ihenlex) when she said that she heard going south of Rosarito required a tourist card. Of course, we know it
was Maneadero/ Punta Banda where no tourist card was needed for trips of 72 hours or less.
In either case, more than 72 hours anywhere in Mexico was the rule or (now) all trips south technically require an FMM.
The tourist card (FM-T before) was FREE from about 1962 until mid-2000. The border region did extend to San Felipe or Maneadero whereas in the rest of
Mexico it extended only 20 kms. or so south of the border. In Sonora, it did go at least south to Puerto Peņasco.
The Free Zone is (or was) the area where no TIP (Temporary Import Permit $$$) is required for automobiles in Mexico. That is the entire peninsula of
Baja California and in Sonora as far as Guaymas (The Sonora Free Zone).
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Sweetwater
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It was back in 2009 that the chase crew had our passports confiscated until we paid the bank and showed the receipt with an FMM. Fine was $75 but went
up quite a bit the next year. As I mentioned, we lost a day of prerunning since we had to go to the approved bank to get receipts and FMM receipts
after we made payment.
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sancho
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The 'Border Zone/Free Zone' were often used interchangeably.
I have tried to explain to some aquaintances the change of
last Oct. that requires ALL Tourists entering TJ at SY that
technically an fmm is now required, no matter of the length
of time in Mex, my explanation is rarely paid attention too,
generally followed by the 3 day, only so. of Ensenada OLD practiced
immigration regs debate, with an occasional 'know it all SOB', (not so. of the border'). I imagine crossers driving into TJ
that get fmm's are in the low double didgits, if that.
To further confuse things, I
understand one can cross over for the day in at least
Mexicali without needing an fmm, maybe other POE. Hasn't
always been so, but I go out of my way to comply with
everything Mex Authorities require
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Mulegena
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Because both the poster and her US-born son live in Mexico they should both have residency visas.
Here's the law and means to obtain visas and/or citizenship based on relationship to a Mexican citizen: http://www.gob.mx/tramites/ficha/cambio-a-residente-temporal...
and: http://www.gob.mx/tramites/ficha/solicitud-de-carta-de-natur...
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Got my 6 month FMM yesterday for the upcoming winter in BCS. 8 AM San Ysidro. Parked to the far right before the gates. No wait, I was the only
person. First the IMN office where the agent copied info to the FMM form from my passport card. Then to the bank across the hall, $20.21. Back to the
IMN office with bank receipt for the stamp. 5 to 10 minutes total.
All set to take off in a few weeks. 
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