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CatCrazyJulie
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Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  | whoaaaaaaaaaaaaa you are two lucky kids. Thanks for sharing, the information is invaluable.
I am guessing it would be Antonio's Baja Cactus ambulance people who came?
Those photos are horrifying....the stuff of nightmares. Who was the photographer?
Presumably you are in front of the beautiful sea as you write, relaxing. snorkeling. fishing. breathing. |
Hi BajaBlanca - Yes, it was Antonio's Baja Cactus ambulance - more about the ambulance trip upcoming in the next chapter of the story:-). Either I or
my husband took the photo that I posted with my story - we were at the site for 4 hours before the ambulance came, and both "ambulatory". The accident
happened about 2pm, and from what's written below, evidently the call to the ambulance didn't go out until after 4:15 pm, which explains why they
didn't arrive at the scene until about 6 pm.
We're at home in Morro Bay, CA, now, which has a beautiful sea, and my husband has already gone out sportfishing here, but I'm missing the warm Sea of
Cortez waters! Had to come back home to address the wound in my right arm, which had such a deep cut from impact with the passenger window that it
required surgery to repair, done last week. We might fly down for a quick vacay at Cabo Pulmo in a month or so, once we've got the complicated
post-accident insurance situation dealt with.
Julie
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David K
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Antonio and you were online about the same time, as he replied before you saw it, perhaps. I will guess that Antonio got the driving directions from
the newspaper, as well? Maybe the federal police reported the wrong direction to the newspaper?
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BajaCactus
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Julie... we spoke briefly over the phone when you were at the clinic in El Rosario. I tried to reach you at BajaCactus the next morning to see if you
needed any additional help and/or assistance but you had already left.
I figured you may be heading to the local Bus Station so I called the lady in charge (who happens to be my sister in law) and asked her to help you
out in anyway if you happened to show up.
If there is anything you need down here to follow up on your accident please do not hesitate to ask.
Thank you for sharing your story and please give my best to Mark (Facebook quick report has been corrected... thank you).
Antonio Muñoz
Desert Hawks Fire and Rescue
Non-Profit Organization
[Edited on 11-1-2016 by BajaCactus]
BajaCactus
"Where Baja is so much more than a dream..."
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CatCrazyJulie
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaCactus | That area around Cataviña is very isolated and difficult when it comes to accidents. Julie mentioned their accident happened around 2:00pm. We got the
first call from the Federal Police requesting an ambulance at 4:18pm, that was over two hours after the incident... too long.
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Antonio Muñoz
Desert Hawks Fire and Rescue
Non-Profit Organization |
Antonio - Hello! So you were the driver of the ambulance that day? I remember your face clearly, but my mind was not holding onto names that day.
Thank you Thank you Thank you!
It was unnerving at the time, being dropped off in El Rosario, with no doctor on duty because it was a weekend, and no rental car agency or means of
going north to a hospital. One of the volunteers was very helpful in finding us a hotel room at Baja Cactus, and taking me to a nearby market for
supplies. I will write up the rest of the story about what happened after we got to El Rosario...might be 2 or 3 more episodes.
One request: do you have any input on the Halcones del Desierto facebook page? If so, it would be great if there could be a correction to the
description of the accident. On the Halcones del Desierto facebook page post about the accident, it says that the big rig/trailer driver was
northbound when the accident occurred. Actually, the trailer was headed southbound, attempting to pass 3 vehicles in a row. After he passed the
first two vehicles, he got to us, and hit our trailer from behind, and ultimately pushed us off the road. That's why the photos don't show much
damage to the front of the truck (and why the engine still started!): the damage on the truck is primarily from rolling over after we were pushed off
the road. The roll knocked the camper shell off the top of the truck, including the kayak rack and our two kayaks...which ended up under the front
tires of the big rig/trailer.
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CatCrazyJulie
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaCactus | Julie... we spoke briefly over the phone when you were at the clinic in El Rosario. I tried to reach you at BajaCactus the next morning to see if you
needed any additional help and/or assistance but you had already left.
I figured you may be heading to the local Bus Station so I called the lady in charge (who happens to be my sister in law) and asked her to help you
out in anyway if you happened to show up.
If there is anything you need down here to follow up on your accident please do not hesitate to ask.
Thank you for sharing your story and please give my best to Mark (Facebook quick report has been corrected... thank you).
Antonio Muñoz
Desert Hawks Fire and Rescue
Non-Profit Organization
[Edited on 11-1-2016 by BajaCactus] |
Oh, Antonio, just now seeing this post, after my other reply! Of course I remember speaking with you on the phone. Thank you for your concern.
We did leave El Rosario a little after noon on Sunday. We wanted to get to the hospital in Ensenada, since my arm wound had glass in it, and looked
like it might need special attention - it was deeper than it initially appeared; there was a flap of skin hiding a hole that went down to my elbow
joint (as we later learned when we got to Ensenada). We didn't feel quite up to a long bus ride, since we were both in pain...plus we had our poor
18-year-old cat! So Mark went up to the Pemex station, and started asking people who were headed north if they could give us a ride to Ensenada. One
of the guys who works at the Pemex station called a couple of his relatives, and they were available to drive us. Mark agreed to pay $200 US for a
ride to Esenada; since it was a 5-hour drive, and we were in a hurry, that felt fair. We left right away, and got to Ensenada before dark, and were
able to go to a hospital there.
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BajaCactus
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Julie... I was coordinating your emergency response from Tijuana.
When the call came in, I dispatched the ambulance with two of our volunteers. The driver was Lázaro (one of our Firefighters), the EMT in the back was
Karely.
As soon as they arrived to the accident site, they reported back to me via radio that fortunately no one was in any life threatening situation. That
was a relief.
Meanwhile in El Rosario, another one of our volunteers began looking for a doctor to receive you upon arrival, unfortunately no doctor was on duty at
that time.
That other volunteer was Isela, who happens to be my wife and the one in charge of the Rescue Group when I am not in town (my Liutenent... hehehehe).
I asked Isela to do her best effort to help you out. She was the one who took you to BajaCactus, to the market and the one who advised you not to buy
those tacos at the Taco Stand north of BajaCactus... hehehehe.
I lost track of you the next day and I was unaware that you approached the staff at the Gas Station for help.
Looking forward to read the rest of your story.
Antonio Muñoz
Desert Hawks Fire and Rescue
Non-Profit Organization
[Edited on 11-1-2016 by BajaCactus]
BajaCactus
"Where Baja is so much more than a dream..."
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David K
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Wow, awesome!!!
For those who don't want to click on the Facebook link, here is the English translated post:
Our body of volunteers responded on the day of today to a clash in the 159 km (south of El Rosario). Apparently a trailer that was traveling to
the south, while trying to pass a line of three vehicles, hit the trailer of an American couple who also was traveling south, causing them to lose
control and taking them out of the road. Fortunately no one was seriously injured, which is why I moved to the couple to a clinic in the village of El
Rosario so that they could receive medical attention. Halcones Del Desierto Grupo de Rescate always at the service of those who need it..." together
we can save lives!!!".
[Edited on 11-1-2016 by David K]
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gallesram
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Wow, what an intense story this has been. I read about the accident elsewhere and was puzzled when I saw that it was described as a "head on
collision" (where was the damage to the front of the vehicles?) Thank you for posting the information; most of the people on this forum have driven
that stretch many times, some of us with a boat or trailer in tow. I always cringe (slightly) when a semi passes in the opposite direction and I feel
my Suburban & boat sway just a a bit; never thought about getting clipped when a semi tried to pass from behind. Just add it to the list of
things to be aware of when towing (and why I would absolutely never tow a boat at night).
I'm also really amazed at the service that Antonio provides; so much effort has gone into helping travelers in what can only be described as one of
the most desolate places on earth. I feel better knowing that he's out there; and I hope that I never have to use his services.
Look forward to hearing the rest of the story.
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bajaric
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Well thank goodness everyone survived. amazing story and the Desert Hawks, like the Cruz Roja, deserve support. Now, lets hear about the desert
vultures! Vultures need love too --
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Skipjack Joe
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You can reduce your chances of another such accident by not pulling a trailer and driving a smaller vehicle. I had an accident years ago with a
cabover camper that was clipped by a passing vehicle. I feel much much safer with the Tacoma.
So let me get this straight. You never had a blowout. It just seemed like it because the truck was swerving due to the pushed trailer?
Well thank you lucky stars. But I would think about what to do to reduce your risks. There's always the chance of being hit by a boracho, something
out of your control. But these trucks are the greatest danger on that highway.
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BajaBlanca
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surgery? you are indeed a trooper.
Antonio is the owner of the BajaCactus hotel and the amazing human who is working so hard to get ambulances north and south. Scary that there is no
doc available for emergencies...CA RAM BA.
Get better soon and hope your hubby is OK.
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bajaguy
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If/when you replace your rigs, consider installing a rear facing video camera on the back of the trailer with the small monitor up front on the dash.
Supplement with a forward facing dash cam. Some great units out there, lets you know what is coming up behind you and can provide proof of events if
needed.
| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe |
Well thank you lucky stars. But I would think about what to do to reduce your risks. There's always the chance of being hit by a boracho, something
out of your control. But these trucks are the greatest danger on that highway. |
[Edited on 11-2-2016 by bajaguy]
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wlynch43
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Terrible. So sory about your terrible accident. Someone was watching over you for sure. Never been down baja til recently and was more than
concerned about the narrow road and large trucks. As unusual as it sounds felt one would be safer on a motorcycle than a vehicle due to the narrow
roads and ability to accelerate away from danger. Hope all works out well for you.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by wlynch43 | | Terrible. So sory about your terrible accident. Someone was watching over you for sure. Never been down baja til recently and was more than
concerned about the narrow road and large trucks. As unusual as it sounds felt one would be safer on a motorcycle than a vehicle due to the narrow
roads and ability to accelerate away from danger. Hope all works out well for you. |
The difference is on a motorcycle, an accident will hurt you bad. In a vehicle, the cage protects you, so injuries less severe.
Subject of this post is good case illustrating why it pays to wear you seat belts and drive a vehicle with strong roof and well-built crumple zones.
Nobody is "watching over you," your survival depends on defensive driving, and using the safety features of modern cars.
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wlynch43
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Exactly why I bring up riding here. No one more defensive than a good rider for the exact reasons you state. Couple that with more room to manuever
and instant acceleration not available to most cages I for one would feel safer on my bike. I too thought about pulling RV down but doubt it now. If
I ever come again I will ride
. At any rate getting off topic here, I truly hope this situation works out in some sort of positive manner for these people. My thoughts are with
you.
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4x4abc
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I checked on you after the accident
you were shaken but OK
not that it makes a big difference, but it seems your trailer had been rear ended. Weird, but it looks like the right rear - that would explain why
your trailer moved (was pushed) into the other lane.
Semi may have been trying to pull in behind you after passing the other 2 vehicles and hit you.
Neither your left rear corner nor your trailer's left side has a scratch.
Hope things are working out for you and your injuries are healing fast.
I have had my trailer hit by an oncoming semi and know the nightmare that can follow. I was lucky to be able to keep my truck and the trailer on the
road. The semi overturned.
Harald Pietschmann
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KevinFromUtah
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Hey, welcome to the club.
Back in 2012 my 4Runner rolled off the road a little bit south of Catavina. Though unlike you, it was our own fault.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=64627#pid7837...
Definitely a rattling experience, glad to know you made it out okay and so many were willing to help.
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Skipjack Joe
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There's a chance that the trailer may have drifted over into the other lane just as the truck was approaching. The back of that trailer was probably a
good 45 feet from where the driver was steering and the control just isn't as great that far. It could have been unnoticeable.
Nobody can be fully aware of everything on that road every second of the drive. Usually I pay particular attention when an oncoming truck is coming.
The scariest moments are always when a large truck blows by you from the aware. You feel really vulnerable.
I had a minor accident with my cabover when a large RV clipped me while passing. When I caught up he claimed that I drifted over. I denied it. But the
truth is I don't really know because I never saw him and my mind was not fully focused on the exact position of the truck. I felt he was shifting the
blame on me for an irresponsible act on his part.
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Marc
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Wow! You are so lucky. Thanks for sharing.
We were in our Tundra going south in US I-5 a few weeks ago on our way to Palm Springs. My was wife driving in the slow lane. We were forced off onto
a steep soft shoulder. My first thought was we are going to roll. She kept the wheel straight but caught the front in a soft spot the swung our rear
end over. We hit a barrier almost head on at about 50 mph. People stopped to help. The driver of the other truck just drove on. Glad this happened to
us in the US.
How did it go with the Mexican insurance?
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