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[*] posted on 3-22-2017 at 02:34 PM


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NEXT!...what motor oil works best in these tough conditions here in "the baja"???


I see a lot of oil debates on my Harley Davidson forums. Ad infinitum. Oil of Olay is rated the best.

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[*] posted on 3-22-2017 at 03:05 PM


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Don't forget to rotate the air in your tires yearly, or every other oil change.


Are you supposed to change the oil :?:
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[*] posted on 3-22-2017 at 04:38 PM


Every 10k using synthetics.



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[*] posted on 3-22-2017 at 05:55 PM


Turtle oil was favored by Sportster Ironhead owners, but that's forbidden now. It replaced sperm whale oil. That's over too. Now we run dino oil or synthetics.

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[Edited on 3-23-2017 by John Harper]
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[*] posted on 3-22-2017 at 08:46 PM


If your tires don't wear unevenly why would you rotate them?
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[*] posted on 3-23-2017 at 05:46 AM


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If your tires don't wear unevenly why would you rotate them?
Your front tires do the turning and will actually wear differently than the rear. That's why they recommend you rotate front to rear to balance the wear and give longer life.

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[*] posted on 3-23-2017 at 06:59 AM


When I rotated the tires on my motorcycle, it looked kind of funny.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2017 at 07:10 AM


there is actually a technical way to "air down" based on your truck and its load, there isnt really an arbitrary number, here's the scoop...load the truck as you would travel, gear, etc.

Measure the sidewall height (from the ground to the rim edge)..divide by 4...drop the pressure until your sidewall height is 25% less...record this pressure...this will be youre predetermined safe pressure for airing down...i use the simple generic deflators (not preset)...cuz sometimes im empty and sometimes im loaded...one psi does not fit all circumstances

So lets say fully inflated sidewall height is 4"...reduce pressure until its 3"..voila that pressure is your new "go to" pressure

Remember to air UP before getting back on to a reg highway and highway speeds...

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[*] posted on 3-23-2017 at 08:26 AM


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Every 10k using synthetics.


I also add a can of PRO BLEND, a friction reducer to the motor. I have been using it for over 20 years. A friend was using it and showed me by using an automotive stethoscope (the one with the long rod). We listened to my motor as it ran.
Then added a can of PRO BLEND. Just about 95% of all my engine noise went away when I listened the second time!!!


P.S. I apologize for Woody and myself for the hijack)

[Edited on 3-23-2017 by Udo]




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[*] posted on 3-23-2017 at 08:54 AM


i used to be skeptic where automotive additives are concerned. and many products are snake-oil and well deserving of that. however some products work well. i now am a believer in fuel stabilizers,injector cleaners, and diesel fuel lube/cleaners. they make me feel good, and my machines work better. especially noticeable after long periods of storage.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2017 at 10:56 AM


So from deflating tires to engine fluids?

Okay, I can play too...

After being a die hard dino oil guy, and changing the oil under the recommended 5,000 miles (Average 4,000 for me), I switched to synthetic in my Tacoma, Castrol Edge and ran that for 8,000 miles and recently changed it, again with the Edge. The synthetic at 8,000 miles looked nice the way the dino looked at 4,000 in my Tacoma. I could safely run it to 10,000 miles (as I could dino to 5,000), but like the other service recommendations, it is far cheaper to change the oil more often than to have other engine problems.

I also dump a bottle of Techron in my gas tank every so often.

In measuring my fuel mileage, neither Techron or synthetic oil improved my gas mileage... always keep the air filter clean/ replaced. The differentials and transfer case oils are also synthetic (Mobil 1), and changed every 30,000 miles. The Tacoma is not an eco car, it is a reliable, strong truck. 15-17 mpg with rare trips 0f 18-20.5 mpg recorded. It has the 4.0 liter V-6 and runs on 87 octane gasoline.




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[*] posted on 3-23-2017 at 11:42 AM


Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  
i used to be skeptic where automotive additives are concerned. and many products are snake-oil and well deserving of that. however some products work well. i now am a believer in fuel stabilizers,injector cleaners, and diesel fuel lube/cleaners. they make me feel good, and my machines work better. especially noticeable after long periods of storage.


I use Seafoam additive in my Sportster, since it can sit for a couple weeks at at time. Works great.

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[*] posted on 3-23-2017 at 12:51 PM


I did a Blacstone Labs oil analysis at 10k and they told me there was plenty of life left in the oil and to go 12k. 10k is easy to remember on the ODO and comes around every 18 months or so on the Tundra.



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[*] posted on 3-24-2017 at 02:40 PM


Dittos on Blackstone Labs..we do our entire ambulance fleet..run hard and put away wet and asafely fo past 12K with good oil analysis. The customary 3-5k oil change deal on dino oil does nothing but lighten you wallet faster...
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[*] posted on 3-24-2017 at 02:47 PM


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I did a Blacstone Labs oil analysis at 10k and they told me there was plenty of life left in the oil and to go 12k. 10k is easy to remember on the ODO and comes around every 18 months or so on the Tundra.


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[*] posted on 3-24-2017 at 02:53 PM


Now days the vehicle tells you when to do service. The only modern car I have gets oil changes between 9 and 10k, and always with a new filter. Lots of talk on the Internet that says that is not good.
The previous car I had specified 10K between oil and filter change, but did not have the modern message to tell you that.
My Diesel F350 gets an oil change with filter every 20k miles. Been doing that for 170k miles.
All the above used full synthetic oil per manufacturers specs.
Spoke to a car rental service guy and he said no oil changes. Just top them off when needed. I guess the next owner gets the result?
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[*] posted on 3-26-2017 at 09:06 AM


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Every 10k using synthetics.


I also add a can of PRO BLEND, a friction reducer to the motor. I have been using it for over 20 years. A friend was using it and showed me by using an automotive stethoscope (the one with the long rod). We listened to my motor as it ran.
Then added a can of PRO BLEND. Just about 95% of all my engine noise went away when I listened the second time!!!


P.S. I apologize for Woody and myself for the hijack)

[Edited on 3-23-2017 by Udo]


Udo, Is this the stuff?

https://pro-blend.com/products/racing-engine-concentrate?var...




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[*] posted on 3-27-2017 at 01:47 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
I did a Blacstone Labs oil analysis at 10k and they told me there was plenty of life left in the oil and to go 12k. 10k is easy to remember on the ODO and comes around every 18 months or so on the Tundra.


Dino or Synthetic?


Same stuff you use Castrol Edge 5w-30.




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[*] posted on 3-27-2017 at 02:35 PM


Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
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Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
I did a Blacstone Labs oil analysis at 10k and they told me there was plenty of life left in the oil and to go 12k. 10k is easy to remember on the ODO and comes around every 18 months or so on the Tundra.


Dino or Synthetic?


Same stuff you use Castrol Edge 5w-30.


OK perfect... It was my first synthetic oil run, the price wasn't bad for going double the miles (8,000) what I ran dino on (4,000). So, you think triple (12,000 miles) is ok? I may compromise and do it as you are, at 10,000 miles. If that's the only cost to keep our Toyotas running, it is sure a great deal.




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[*] posted on 3-27-2017 at 03:50 PM


Good move to switch to Full synthetic. Longer oil changes and less engine wear. Other properties are better than Dino oil. The good things are well documented if one searches web sites of reputable sources.
Tip: When choosing oil look for an ACEA rating. Turns out that API stopped testing for wear back when the primary anti wear agent was removed from oil used for gasoline engines. Meanwhile the European test method, ACEA, continued to certify the oils for wear. Just about any level of ACEA rating will be better than any API rating regarding wear.
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