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 It's true that Obama, was called the "Deporter-In-Chief, by the  National Council of La Raza, who demanded that Obama, take unilateral action to stop
the deportations.
 
 And Obama, after blaming the GOP Congress of tying his hands on deportations. Obama,  did manage to find a way to get on board with the requests of La
Raza, and other Latino advocacy human rights groups.
 
 Obama, in 2014 used executive action, and had ICE focus on criminals, not families, and it been that way the last few years of the Obama
administration.
 
 It's also true, Trump, hasn't come anywhere close to Obama's deportation numbers, but Trump, is only in year one, or third month in office, and so far
he has shown he is inept and can't get anything done. Thank God!
 
 Trump, after a campaign promise of mass deportations of 11 million or so illegal Mexican immigrants, is supposedly also only focused of deporting
Mexican undocumented criminal aliens, but if other non-criminals Mexican immigrants get picked up in ICE nets, oh well, they get deported too. Who
knows what the Trump administration will do with "dreamers?"
 
 But I don't expect Trump, to come anywhere near his campaign promises of mass deportations of millions of undocumented Mexican workers. I think it's
mostly red meat, for his constitutes.
 
 I also doubt we will have labor shortages so bad that they will have to bring in white Americans to do the back breaking labor. You know that will
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| DENNIS 
 
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 Oohhh...them nasty Whities will do anything, Joe,   for a living wage.  Raise the commodity prices to consumers.  They'll pay more for goods and
services....less for welfare.
 Call everything "free" just to make you and your blood-sucking ilk feel special.
 
 
 
 
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| chuckie 
 
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 You are so funny...Your last sentence? Would we impress these "white americans" in chains,or what? Maybe a labor draft? We have Brown and Black
Americans as well...Would they get an exemption?
 
 
 
 
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| DENNIS 
 
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 Hey, Chuckie...the new investment opportunity....Coppertone. [love the smell of that stuff]
 
 
 
 
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 I can see it now, chicken plucker press gangs...
 
 
 
 
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| chuckie 
 
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 And Obama was who?
 
 
 
 
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| chuckie 
 
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 Not really....Same old "pull my string and I spout the dogma" stuff
 
 
 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  |  | Just because Trump, and Sessions, will garner  a few headlines, by deporting a few hundred undocumented Mexican aliens,...
 
 Does anybody actual believe California agriculture companies or a major poultry company like Tyson, would allow this to happen?
 
 Now regarding the spiking violence in Tijuana.
 
 
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 For the first time since  reading JJJ, He is, IMO, correct.
 
 The USA is build on and still is revolving on slave labor.  White mexicans and the uninformed are endorsing it an their liberal illogical mantra. 
Conservatives... it's about the the $$$
 
 The drug violence will never reach 95% of this boards active members nor their paying clients. Maybe a little collateral damage and a few kidnappings
here and there, but they sicarios know that tequila swilling gringos are not worth the trouble. It's better to just steal their expensive stuff then
to do them harm, they will just buy more expensive stuff.  Why kill the golden gringo?
 
 
 
 
 
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 Trying to be so intellectual..... and a simple conjunction of 'you' and 'are' as in, 'you're' escapes you. So much for your (you're?) credibility, oh
pundit of poo poo.
 
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 The reasons behind Tijuana’s new violence
 
 Just found this on my morning news search.
 
 
  
 The beginning of 2017 has brought a striking increase in violence to Tijuana, Mexico, and the surrounding region, as competition between different
criminal groups has put the key border city on a path for its bloodiest year since 2010.
 
 State authorities from Baja California, in which Tijuana is located, have reported that 208 people were murdered in the border city during the first
two months this year, a potentially historic homicide rate that represents a vast increase over the murder rate seen in recent years.
 
 While the government statistics agency has not yet published its final tally of homicides last year, reliable reports replace the figure around 700.
Should the current pace be maintained throughout the year, Tijuana would end up with nearly 1,300 murders, an increase of almost 85% in a single year.
 - See more at: http://mexiconewsdaily.com/opinion/the-reasons-behind-tijuan...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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| JoeJustJoe 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  |  | Oohhh...them nasty Whities will do anything, Joe,   for a living wage.  Raise the commodity prices to consumers.  They'll pay more for goods and
services....less for welfare.
 Call everything "free" just to make you and your blood-sucking ilk feel special.
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 Dennis, I'm not sure what you mean when you say call everything "Free" and the rest of your post is surely wrong.
 
 Dennis, I don't think you have Children, but it's easy to imagine you having an adult male kid much like yourself, because the apple usually doesn't
fall far from the tree.
 
 I couldn't imagine your adult white American son, feeling as privileged and lazy as you do.
 
 There would just be no way your son, or most American young adults would do hard labor as a farm worker in the central valley, even if they received a
good living wage.
 
 Who are you kidding Dennis?
 
 We in the US also don't want to see the prices of food and commodities go up.  We know that from seeing the cutthroat industry of the supermarkets
when the competition is intense and their profit margins are very thin, but they try to make it up on volume.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi  |  | Reasonableness would entail a program of legal immigrants (already lined up and in the works for entry but paying somewhat of a price for the need for
them being mitigated by those who cut in line or might we say came over the fence?) 
 And reasonableness would demand a program of employers taking the initiative to 'sponsor' those they have employed that are undocumented.
 
 There would not be a need to have a replacement force from a field of supposed non-interested although a Clintonesque type of welfare to work program
may increase competition for some jobs.
 
 It also should be noted that the Trump dialogue may have curtailed some flow of illegal entry as reported today. Could it be that an innuendo is just
as powerful as a force?
 
 What was the saying? "Speak softly but carry a big stick"? Some listen to words...but everyone's eyes are on that big stick.
 
 MOAB, Cruise missiles in the night, conceptual drawings for a wall and bids being taken...
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 Paranewbi, your dream world about  "reasonableness" is a pipe dream.
 
 If you're an immigrant with a family to feed, it's not "reasonable" to them to stand in the line, and play immigration lottery, where the game is
rigged and doesn't currently favor certain immigrants from certain countries.
 
 But what's reasonable for those immigrants is to come over any way they can, because there are good paid jobs in America for those immigrants to
papers or without papers.
 
 The employers want cheap hard working employees period. The employers aren't there to "sponsor' foreign workers and perhaps give them a pathway to
citizenship, the employers only want to exploit the foreign workers.
 
 Trump's racist rants, immigrants policies and draconian immigration dreams of mass deportations for sure is causing many Mexican immigrants  to stay
home, instead of coming to America. However,  for the last few years, immigration, and undocumented immigration to the US has been flat or even
declining. So this need to built a big wall is pure nonsense.
 
 The  conceptual drawings of the wall, seems to be another pipe dream, at least for this year, because the GOP leadership, has  already said, they are
going to drop funding for the "wall" from their budget.  And we already know that Mexico will not pay for the wall.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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| DENNIS 
 
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 Pay more for commodities so employers can pay higher wages, or you pay higher taxes.  Take your pick, Joey.  Someone has to foot the bill for the
welfare of your illegal dependents.  Why not let them do it themselves!
 
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