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bajabuddha
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I used to drive 150 miles to then drive another 30-50 miles of dirt to get to beauty and solitude without any 'services' to camp peacefully, until
some honyock wrote "Hiking the San Rafael Swell" guidebook, and within a year it was wall-to-wall L. L. Bean brats and ATV's everywhere. The gummint
had to step in and rope off some areas not totally destroyed yet, and boy howdy did the yokels yell.
Also used to have a chance at getting river permits for the Big Ditch (Grand C.), Gates of Lodore, Cataract Canyon, Snake, Salmon, Hell's Canyon....
with some luck. Then came the hoards. I'm done with that now but a good friend I recently talked to said none of his group pulled a permit anywhere
this year. Notoriety is not such a good thang.
Also seems to me there was a thread not too long ago with a lot of griping about fenced off back-country Baja dirt roads... geez, I wonder why.
So go ahead, DK... try to please everybody, but remember: You're NOT Tequila ! 
[Edited on 5-6-2017 by bajabuddha]
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TMW
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I remember back in the early 80s we would go to the Glamis sand dunes and ride 3 wheelers. Regular weekends not many people but on holiday weekends
lots of people. A Thanksgiving weekend back then would see up to 50,000. Haven't been there for years and about 10 years ago I read an article that
said over 250,000 were there over Thanksgiving.
I don't know if someone wrote a book about it or if by word of mouth or people just driving by looking at it. Even Robby Gordon is out there with his
high flying Trophy Truck.
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  | Our position is set in stone. We are the last of those who venture down a 60 mile dirt road. We dont need a map. We dont make money on a book with up
to the minute directions.
Not taking anything from our resident hero except the adventure he forgot exists for the people who might look down that 60 mile road when they pucker
up and go. |
Take a walk on the wild side
Don't forget to air down your tires 
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | I remember back in the early 80s we would go to the Glamis sand dunes and ride 3 wheelers. Regular weekends not many people but on holiday weekends
lots of people. A Thanksgiving weekend back then would see up to 50,000. Haven't been there for years and about 10 years ago I read an article that
said over 250,000 were there over Thanksgiving.
I don't know if someone wrote a book about it or if by word of mouth or people just driving by looking at it. Even Robby Gordon is out there with his
high flying Trophy Truck. |
That place is so big I think you are ok, except for holidays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkN1MX_0tw
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | The Mexico border is a factor a few of you left out which overrides any guidebook or photobook's appeal. The remote area and dirt road is another
reason this area won't become Glamis or the other U.S. locations named. Don't worry, your Baja spots are safe from human destruction just as Shell
Island is still great, nearly 40 years since I have told others about it. 1) Mexico, 2) No services, 3) 4WD needed are what keeps it unchanged no
matter how many guides, photos, and web pages show it.
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Just a question. If that is the case why are you writing a guidebook about it?
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bajabuddha
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That site is so raunchy even my 'puter's cookies went mouldy.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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David K
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My web site was changed from DavidKsBaja to VivaBaja 15 years ago! It was originally patterned after TimsBaja.com. When Doug (BajaNomad) gave me
VivaBaja.com (as I created the Viva Baja parties of 2000-2003).
History lesson over.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | The Mexico border is a factor a few of you left out which overrides any guidebook or photobook's appeal. The remote area and dirt road is another
reason this area won't become Glamis or the other U.S. locations named. Don't worry, your Baja spots are safe from human destruction just as Shell
Island is still great, nearly 40 years since I have told others about it. 1) Mexico, 2) No services, 3) 4WD needed are what keeps it unchanged no
matter how many guides, photos, and web pages show it.
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Just a question. If that is the case why are you writing a guidebook about it? |
I am not writing a guidebook, yet.
If or when I do it will not be to Seven Sisters, it will be to all of Baja's backcountry I can explore this year along with past trips. You guys get a
preview and maybe all of it here on Nomad. I do it because I want to and my sponsor wants me to.
This post is about the new Sunbelt book on the Seven Sisters region.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | The Mexico border is a factor a few of you left out which overrides any guidebook or photobook's appeal. The remote area and dirt road is another
reason this area won't become Glamis or the other U.S. locations named. Don't worry, your Baja spots are safe from human destruction just as Shell
Island is still great, nearly 40 years since I have told others about it. 1) Mexico, 2) No services, 3) 4WD needed are what keeps it unchanged no
matter how many guides, photos, and web pages show it.
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Just a question. If that is the case why are you writing a guidebook about it? |
I am not writing a guidebook, yet.
If or when I do it will not be to Seven Sisters, it will be to all of Baja's backcountry I can explore this year along with past trips. You guys get a
preview and maybe all of it here on Nomad. I do it because I want to and my sponsor wants me to.
This post is about the new Sunbelt book on the Seven Sisters region. |
Who is your benefactor? Who is sponsoring this opening of the central Baja coast to the hoards from San Marcos, Irvine and Encinitas?
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JZ
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Here's a lil tip for you all. I've been ragging on DK for almost 15 years.
Back to when SkiBaja was still alive. If you don't know who that is you should just exit this thread now.
He's not backing down, and at this point he's trolling you all to oblivion...
[Edited on 5-7-2017 by JZ]
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rts551
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He tried to make it all about "him" in the Amigos de Baja days.
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Maybe someone needs to do a coffee table book with fotos of the Baja narco-violencia. That might thin out the crowds a bit. Nothing gets a tourist's
attention like severed heads and bodies hanging from overpasses.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by monoloco | | Maybe someone needs to do a coffee table book with fotos of the Baja narco-violencia. That might thin out the crowds a bit. Nothing gets a tourist's
attention like severed heads and bodies hanging from overpasses. |
Too many people make a living off of encouraging gringos to go to Mexico for that to happen.
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by monoloco | | Maybe someone needs to do a coffee table book with fotos of the Baja narco-violencia. That might thin out the crowds a bit. Nothing gets a tourist's
attention like severed heads and bodies hanging from overpasses. |
Too many people make a living off of encouraging gringos to go to Mexico for that to happen. |
Well, I can
think of at least one person who might publish such a book.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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woody with a view
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DK we love your 50 years of experience!
What we don't love is your "holier than thou" swagger when it comes to places you know nothing about. Do a book on the life struggle of the vagrant
workers who are, basically, working for subsistence along the area that shant be named.
You always look the other way, deflect, and tell the world how it's Mexico's problem if they can't keep their HUMANS fed.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
You just follow me around and say anything to get attention here and create hate... It is not about me. This post is about the new Seven Sisters photo
book. What takes it down a different path is the distractions and sidebars having nothing to do with the new Sunbelt book.
My posts are about Baja... that I have been going to Baja for over 50 years means I have more to share and I want to give as much as I can while I
still can. You all came to Baja Nomad because of what was here, well that included my posts which have always been about Baja trips and history.
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Again you are making this about how great you are (or are not). I am not following you around. I responded to your comment (which I am glad I quoted
because as usual you deleted it) as others did and you escalated the discussion. Many people have been going to baja for a long time. some longer
than 50 years. They just do not feel the need to put themselves out on the internet constantly. I came to NOMAD and before that Fred's or Amigo's
because at the time CURRENT road conditions were a premium. I soon learned to beware people who gave 5 year old data.
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David K
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I delete my replies when you replay/ quote them because unlike your need to appear repeatedly in my threads, I do not.
Woody, I never have claimed to know any more about a place than I do. I only talked about the roads I was on and what I saw.
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woody with a view
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Heheheheheeeee! Please place that diclamer in your guide book.
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Funny dat!
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As I side note, I'm so damn excited to see this part of the Baja for the first time in a couple weeks. Spent about 2hours looking at it on GE last
night while having a few beers.
Gonna take my truck, 3 bikes, and my 13yo and 15yo. Will bring the drone and video the chit out of it.
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