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Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  | | What I am saying Willard is to exercise in 80 degree heat for an extended period of time and likely to go into the 100s that time of year can cause
dehydration and exhaustion if hiking for miles especially for the senior crowd which evidently you are not a part of if you think it is no big deal.
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um no....this is what you said "Stay out of the heat!! Do not hike in the midday sun, and start early and end early in the day. Temperatures over 80
degrees need to be avoided completely while hiking. It's common sense yet many refuse to heed the warning. Even with youth, water and food and a car
at this young couple's disposal they didn't win against the cruel desert environment."
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JZ
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I go hiking in 90-100 temps all the time.
Op needs to get back on her meds.
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I don't know what you mean by stretch out those legs I don't frequent watering holes i.e. bars I do not drink on a daily or weekly basis. I am an
asthmatic and I cannot hike in hot weather but I do frequent the local fitness center and do spinning in La Mision. I don't take psych meds JZ. Why
some of you have to be cruel and mean is beyond me.
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Heat stroke not even funny JZ nobody knows this more then me. Doing the most hard single track in Baja. The last run I warned the whole group about
heat stroke. I'm very careful as I'm always the oldest rider in the pack. Last run young LAPD detective 35 years old works out 5 days a week. Riding
Missing link trail. From my words before that boiling hot day after less then 1 mile. Made U turn on trail as he was getting heat stroke. Made it to
the beach jumped in water. Many people are not aware there getting heat stroke. On that run first mile I used up 2 liters of electrolyte powered
replenisher. Water will not save you I never ever worried about this in my younger days. After seeing riders in the last 12 years half my age get heat
stroke. One in So cal lost his life I take it very serous. Don't be calling out the the DR not even funny.
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My son in Morocco went surfing a few hours during the middle of the afternoon. He's a very healthy raw vegan. The sun there is very strong was no
higher than in the 80's. He got very nauseated and dizzy. Diagnosis? Heat stroke. It can creep up on you very unexpected.
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A young top athlete Soccer player from Mulege was overcome with heatstroke at Soccer practice playing at College level in the US. After a year in the
hospital and kidney and liver transplants he has still not recovered enough to leave continuous care. Very serious consequences if you do not
recognize heatstroke symptoms in time. Hospital care on this level blows past One million dollars very quickly.
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no question heatstroke is a nasty customer....but if your core temperature is reaching 104 degrees hiking in 80 degree weather you have some serious
issues you need to take a look at.
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Your core temp is already 98.6. Dehydration can cause it to go up as a fever can. By the time you reach 104 you will not survive much longer. Easily
can go over 100 degrees and if you have health issues this can be a serious problem.
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Who was to know that all those years hiking in Yosemite where the mid day temps are in the 90s would kill me.
I need to send my kids back up Half Dome, Yosemite Falls, Clouds Rest and all the rest of those long grunts in the noon day sun to see if my bones are
resting alongside the trail....
So, on a more serious note, those of us that hike constantly in the Sierra know that keeping up our water intake is a lot more important than worrying
about ambient temps. 60+ years of trekking those sunny summer trails make the 80 degree temp a non-issue.
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Having lived my entire 65 years in Mohave County Arizona and most of them as an out in the sun all day pipeline contractor, I have seen a lot of guys
have to be cooled down. Some of the companies we work for have a ban on on energy drinks on the job site because of heat related and dehydration
issues from these drinks, some guys almost have withdrawal issues from this. These things can’t be good for you.
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One small item that hasn't been mentioned in any post here is the difference between heat exhaustion and heat stroke, two entirely different entities.
Heat exhaustion is presented by dizziness, nausea, sweating (or not) and possible unconsciousness. Can be rectified by cooling and fluid intake. It
truly is a bad situation, no doubt; not making small talk of it. Debilitating to say the least. Treatment is infusion of fluids, cooling of the
body, shade, rest, and electrolytes.
However, heat STROKE is when your brain pan heats up and the brain actually goes into shock due to skull temps reaching dangerous levels, and the
brain actually bakes. More so than just the body overheating; signs and symptoms include red, dry skin (possible sweating, but by then the system
isn't working any more) and very high body temp, above 102 F. This is an acute and dangerous scenario, the body must be cooled as quickly as
possible. Brain damage can occur and death is a very heavy possibility. For one to say, "oh, I had heat stroke" is easily professed, but as Lancair
mentioned organ damage can result and become a life-threatening and life-changing situation.
As a guide, on hot days in the desert i'd always recommend to the 'party-hearty' crowd to have one full glass of water in between each beer... spent
the better part of my life in 100+ temps hiking and boating, with lots of 'cool-down' stops, making sure everyone was sunscreened and safe. Never had
to evac any of my personal charges. Just remember the "6 P-s".... Prior Planning Prevents P-Poor Performance.
Apparently the hikers in Joshua Tree didn't know the P's. He had a pistol for protection... just not the right protection. Outa your league, chit
happens. Another rule here is in Search and Rescue... when people get lost, they get LOST-ER. This was a tragic story to say the least, and
hopefully one or two somewhere will learn a valuable lesson from it.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Accuweather says the high on July 28 was 104 at Twenty Nine Palms.
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