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BajaBlanca
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Way back in the day, we are talking 12 years ago, I thought I could get FMM in Ensenada.
They gave me a hard time but I insisted and finally got the paperwork to go to the bank, pay up, return and get stamped. They explained that in
theory, they were only there to handle folks that arrived by boat.
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rts551
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A new disciple.
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freediverbrian
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  | Who is John galt?  [/rqu
Someone that does not have passport and expects to travel across boarders without a passport and is shocked when told they need proper and legal
paperwork to enter a foreign country???? |
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I don't know anyone who has been shaken down for a bribe for not having an FMM, but the possibility is there. It is also grounds for a legitimate
citation and fine!
A passport will also give you the option of flying to or from Baja if something comes up that requires it.
Driving into Mexico and getting the FMM can be done with the passport card (also good in Canada) but flying requires the official book form.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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JohnGaltSpeaking
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| Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Who is John galt? [/rqu
Someone that does not have passport and expects to travel across boarders without a passport and is shocked when told they need proper and legal
paperwork to enter a foreign country???? |
I don't expect anything, except for a consistent and fair reality. if i am not committing then don't treat me as a criminal, especially in a country
where serious crimes are clearly a bigger issue. would i find it surprising to be stopped at a military checkpoint for something as trivial as a $20
dollar tourist card when 1% of total crimes reported go unpunished and 10% of homicides as well? i think most people would be. i disagree with martial
law and resorting to a police state as a means of dealing with crime. clean up your police force and investigate crime, don't just hassle honest
citizens. innocent until proven guilty.
and i am not complaining now, nor was i complaining earlier, but my shock is warranted if you think about it. i still do apologize for the reaction
though but my boy scout days are over. i am a little too old to be walking on eggshells for governments who are way too quick to jump the gun on
messing with me before they would rather do their job. just saying 
[Edited on 8-7-2018 by JohnGaltSpeaking]
[Edited on 8-7-2018 by JohnGaltSpeaking] |
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BajaBlanca
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Welcome John!
I think it is really important to follow the laws here as visitors. That does mean getting an FMM and having either a passport card (a bit less
expensive but cant be used for air travel as AKgringo mentioned) or a passport per se.
Just like we all expect and hope that Mexicans enter our country legally too! They should be so lucky to only have to pay $20! It is so expensive!
I almost croaked when my 2 students went for their US tourist visas last December. Crikey!
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Boss looking guy at the entrance in TJ this adfternoon.
Looks at the form instean of just waveing me through, says,¨do you know when it expires?¨
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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Sigh.....is Goat the only one to figure this out? "Who is John Galt".....indeed. This is required reading for the republicans in the house per the
current Speaker. I'm pretty sure this 'newbie' is not.
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freediverbrian
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Ayn Rand knows who John Galt is . Atas Shrugged . We have been played .
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JohnGaltSpeaking
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| Quote: Originally posted by Santiago | | Sigh.....is Goat the only one to figure this out? "Who is John Galt".....indeed. This is required reading for the republicans in the house per the
current Speaker. I'm pretty sure this 'newbie' is not. |
you are unfortunately right. but i am going to stop liking a book because idiots read it too? that'll be the day. any idiot can pick up any book,
think he understands it, and quote it, but that doesn't make them experts and definitely doesn't affect the source material in any way. entertaining
misinterpretation is a waste of time.
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by joerover | Boss looking guy at the entrance in TJ this adfternoon.
Looks at the form instean of just waveing me through, says,¨do you know when it expires?¨ |
walking or driving?
[Edited on 8-7-2018 by SFandH]
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JohnGaltSpeaking
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went through there august 21 and august 23 at 11 am both times and no immigration checkpoint, just military.
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David K
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In the 50+ years of traveling in Baja...
The 8 trips last year driving over 12,000 miles researching to the tip and even last weeks short trip...
I have NEVER been asked for immigration documentation (Tourist Card or Passport) at any military checkpoint.
The only places have I have been, by INM officials, were at the state border/ eagle monument three times (2001, 2007, 2009) and at the Ensenada
airport when I arrived and departed Mexican airspace by helicopter (2014)... plus the old immigration checkpoint south of Ensenada in the 60s to 80s.
[Edited on 8-25-2018 by David K]
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | In the 50+ years of traveling in Baja...
The 8 trips last year driving over 12,000 miles researching to the tip and even last weeks short trip...
I have NEVER been asked for immigration documentation (Tourist Card or Passport) at any military checkpoint.
The only places have I have been, by INM officials, were at the state border/ eagle monument three times (2001, 2007, 2009) and at the Ensenada
airport when I arrived and departed Mexican airspace by helicopter (2014)... plus the old immigration checkpoint south of Ensenada in the 60s to 80s.
[Edited on 8-25-2018 by David K] |
So what is your point?
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David K
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My point is a follow-up to John Galt.... that military stops asking for FMMs is not common and INM setting up highway checks is pretty rare.
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JohnGaltSpeaking
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| Quote: Originally posted by norte | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | In the 50+ years of traveling in Baja...
The 8 trips last year driving over 12,000 miles researching to the tip and even last weeks short trip...
I have NEVER been asked for immigration documentation (Tourist Card or Passport) at any military checkpoint.
The only places have I have been, by INM officials, were at the state border/ eagle monument three times (2001, 2007, 2009) and at the Ensenada
airport when I arrived and departed Mexican airspace by helicopter (2014)... plus the old immigration checkpoint south of Ensenada in the 60s to 80s.
[Edited on 8-25-2018 by David K] |
So what is your point? |
according to the initial post, the topic was about a separate immigration checkpoint, not the military checkpoint. at least that's why i was
interested in the post since i didn't get an FMM. but, of course, all info is good info.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | In the 50+ years of traveling in Baja...
The 8 trips last year driving over 12,000 miles researching to the tip and even last weeks short trip...
I have NEVER been asked for immigration documentation (Tourist Card or Passport) at any military checkpoint.
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Perhaps you haven’t spent much time in Mexico.
I’ve had a number of military inspection stops ask to see passport. The airports seem to always ask to see passport and fmm.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Barry A.
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As a conservative, In my 60+ years of travel in Baja CA I too have never been asked to see my papers at any checkpoint.
Perhaps only Lefties are asked for their papers-------they are a shifty bunch. LOL
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Good! Thanks for the report.
I wonder how many gringos without FMMs got nabbed when they had the immigration checkpoint set up. I bet a bunch.
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David K
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Well, it is silly to not have the FMM when we have made the process so well known. An informed traveler would find out these things before leaving his
country, wouldn't he? You may be able to freely drive into Mexico, but you are not there "legally" if you don't get your tourist card, at the border,
or get the pre-purchased one validated at the border.
It's not rocket science, but you darn well know that for every 100 cars driving into Mexico, probably 90% don't stop to get the card or may think for
one day or staying north of Maneadero still doesn't need one?
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