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Quote: Originally posted by elfbrewery  | Not too much info, I have a bucket (shower water) nearby to dump into the toilet when full flushing is needed. Between the 1.6 and another half-gallon
of water, I get the results -- woosh! I read a few years ago that it takes 2 gallons of water in 3 seconds to create enough pressure to fully flush a
toilet. That said, there are many opinions and individuals' experiences that may not agree. I just know that mine isn't the only one that has this
short-coming.
If it weren't for the fact that the toilet bowl is getting too stained to keep clean (and the base needs to be reconstructed, water shut-off valve
replaced, etc.) I would continue to use the saved shower water to help flush the toilet. However, if all this needs to be done, one would think
replacing the toilet with one that has a higher gallon per flush rating wouldn't be a big deal. Thus my quandary. |
elf- I have 1.6 gallon toilets. They flush just fine. I'm the one who wrote about the muriatic acid down the flapper trick. If you want to buy a new
toilet, go for it, but I can assure there is nothing about a 1.6 gallon that would make it not flush properly unless the flush holes are plugged up.
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elf, you don't seem to understand how a toilet works. The plumbing lines to your toilet have nothing to do with it. It is the water in the tank that
flushes the toilet- it doesn't need pressure, it works on gravity- you depress the lever and the water in the tank flows through the holes under the
rim and at the front of the bottom. But it won't get enough water flow through those holes if the space is reduced due to mineral build up, or maybe
even dirt or sand if that's coming down the water lines.
It doesn't matter if your toilet is by the beach or on a mountaintop, or whether you have a pressurized water system or not, or whether the plumbing
lines are old. As long as the tank is filling and there's a free flow of water through the toilet, a toilet works the same everywhere.
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Keep in mind that any toilet depends on the drain line and vents to be properly designed, constructed and maintained. What the
toilet dumps into matters!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Surabi - Thanks for the reassurance. I've checked the holes under the rim and there is very little debris in the bottom of the tank. I dropped a large
fishing weight on a line down the vent and it went straight to the bottom and came back slightly wet. We put a 2" hose down the toilet hole and water
ran freely from a water truck out to two holding tanks. The toilet flushes well, just no whoosh.
I think gravity is the answer, too.
I'm enjoying all this feedback, keep it coming.
AKgringo - I wish someone knew where the drain lines go...I'm having to plunge the toilet because there's a backup ... s-o-m-e-w-h-e-r-e...???... but
I think the toilet is not the problem as flushing it with extra water has worked for several years.
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Sounds like you have done all the right stuff, and maybe your system is just a quart low! Also, if you are on a septic system, I
would be very cautious about what chemicals you put down the drain
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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elfbrewery
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Agreed. Thanks.
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| Quote: Originally posted by elfbrewery | Surabi - Thanks for the reassurance. I've checked the holes under the rim and there is very little debris in the bottom of the tank. I dropped a large
fishing weight on a line down the vent and it went straight to the bottom and came back slightly wet. We put a 2" hose down the toilet hole and water
ran freely from a water truck out to two holding tanks. The toilet flushes well, just no whoosh.
I think gravity is the answer, too.
I'm enjoying all this feedback, keep it coming.
AKgringo - I wish someone knew where the drain lines go...I'm having to plunge the toilet because there's a backup ... s-o-m-e-w-h-e-r-e...???... but
I think the toilet is not the problem as flushing it with extra water has worked for several years. |
Elf- just looking at the holes under the rim won't tell you if there's reduced space between there and the tank from mineral buildup.
I'm just speaking from experience here- having 1.6 gallon toilets that weren't doing a full whoosh flush- when I read online about the muriatic acid
trick and tried it, they instantly started flushing with a "whoosh".
And no, as AK says, it's not good to put chemicals in your septic, but I'm on a private septic and doing this didn't affect it negatively. It's not
something you'd want to do every day, but a cupful of muriatic acid, once a year (actually I only had to do it once in 11 years, but do use a bit
every couple months or so to remove the hard water stains) won't damage a septic system that's working well.
Yeah, it's too bad you don't know where the toilet drains to and that there seems to be a blockage.
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Elf- just for imterest's sake, why don't you try the muriatic fix as I described it? The worst that happens is you waste the 10 minutes it takes and a
cupful of muriatic acid, which costs pennies. Or we could just talk about it endlessly :-)
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I have a low flow toilet, and my crap goes down fine.
Me thinks some of you need to make smaller craps.
If you have tons of mineral deposits that stain your bowl quickly, it is Probably easiest to just keep the lid down so you don’t have to look at the
ugly results, and quit worrying about cleaning the bowl.
If you have bad mineral deposits, and are also producing monstrous unflushable craps, you should pay your cleaning lady a hazardous work supplement.
Btw, this thread really needs some pictures,....
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And when you get your 2 gallon toilet you may find that you no longer need a Poop Knife.
David
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its time to open up the septic tank and see if there is the "white foamy" stuff clogging it
might be time for a "clean out"
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Now, that's a funny link!!!
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A line from our house to the septic tank was snaked and the septic tank was cleaned out, but stuff isn't flowing into it. Could be there is enough in
the septic tank again to slow down the works... No one wants to jump in to find where the pipes are. I'm at a stalemate with the maintenance guy.
Anyway, I still want to nail down a new toilet once we get the septic issue resolved. If I can track down some muriatic acid, I give it a shot, just
for fun.
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It sounds like a section of your waste pipe may have a dip in it. Poop only flows downhill, so if that's the case, you'll need to make sure there is a
drop of at least 1/4 inch per foot between your house and the septic tank. No toilet will help this chituation.
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did you OPEN up the tank?
if not it cold be FULL
there should be several compartments
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Anything is possible as the pipes were installed yonks ago (i.e., long time ago) and cemented over. It makes it difficult to know where the lines run
and breaking through someone's patio or garage or flooring is not a popular option for snooping things out. The septic tank was opened and we saw it
was about half the level as before, but we still couldn't see whether the level is above the input pipe. If the input pipe is as low as that, then it
is definitely on a good slope from the holding tank in front of our house. The tank in front of our house is also piped into by other houses, so
something is "bound" to happen and then it will get addressed, I hope.
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You can check out the waste pipe without digging it up. You just need to run a video camera down the pipe.
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That would be like a colonoscopy... not pretty.
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This is disgusting thread. Where are the members calling for the thread to be moved to the OT, like when there is a political thread?
All these ideas recommended here probably won't work and you're working in the dark.
Before you make recommendations you should at least get an idea of the average size of the feces and how many wipes and toilet paper is being used at
one sitting.
I woild tell the OP do a one flush after the main dump, and then flush again after clean up.
If this doesn't work buy a power flush toilet. I have one tollet in the house that with number #1 I flush downward, if number #2, I flush upward that
brings more power and works.
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Joe KNOWS Scheisse !
Bowel Blockages are right up his back alley.
So to speak.
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