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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 12:38 PM


I was under the impression that this post was to inform those who are new to getting the passport book v. card as well, and in that case, the fees are different.

Again, $15 might not seem like a lot, but someone on a fixed income, it is. Let's be frank. There are a lot of retired folks on here, and more families than you might think, and money is tight. The card is definitely the way to go if you're on a fixed/tight income and only traveling by vehicle in North America or by boat to the other countries in the Caribbean.

Secondary is a thread all its own. Whom do you see as being "sent to secondary regardless?" We've been sent on numerous occasions for seemingly insignificant reasons throughout the years. In fact, when we prepare to be sent there, we're waved through, when we feel we're cool, we're flagged. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason either way.

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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 01:44 PM


You can also renew at the US Consulate in TJ if it's more convenient (north baja residents).

https://mx.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/how-to-renew-a...






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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 02:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajafam  
I was under the impression that this post was to inform those who are new to getting the passport book v. card as well, and in that case, the fees are different.

Again, $15 might not seem like a lot, but someone on a fixed income, it is. Let's be frank. There are a lot of retired folks on here, and more families than you might think, and money is tight. The card is definitely the way to go if you're on a fixed/tight income and only traveling by vehicle in the N/S Americas or by boat to the other countries in the Caribbean.

Secondary is a thread all its own. Whom do you see as being "sent to secondary regardless?" We've been sent on numerous occasions for seemingly insignificant reasons throughout the years. In fact, when we prepare to be sent there, we're waved through, when we feel we're cool, we're flagged. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason either way.


one more thing about the passport card....past 50 miles into the country you're traveling its not valid as a passport. this from a previous post.
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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 02:12 PM


Quote: Originally posted by del mar  

one more thing about the passport card....past 50 miles into the country you're traveling its not valid as a passport. this from a previous post.


where is the citation of this?




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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 02:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajafam  
Quote: Originally posted by del mar  

one more thing about the passport card....past 50 miles into the country you're traveling its not valid as a passport. this from a previous post.


where is the citation of this?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Passport_Card

good for 100kilometers into mexico (about 62 miles)
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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 02:20 PM


Interesting that it says nothing on the passports.state.gov site about that. Not sure I'd put all my ducks in a wiki basket.



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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 02:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajafam  
Interesting that it says nothing on the passports.state.gov site about that. Not sure I'd put all my ducks in a wiki basket.


this from SpecialK a few months ago.......

"Did you guys read the Mexican government link? It says a passport card is only good for visiting the border zone areas and not for the interior of then republic! You must get a passport book!"

Here is a copy from that site:

The applicant is aware that the card passport (Tarjeta Pasaporte) can only be used in the border crossings by land and for visiting the border zone; it might not be used to travel to the territory of the Mexican Republic or used for international air trips.

believe what you will.......:coolup:


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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 02:55 PM


Well, if that is true (and I wouldn't want to find out the hard way) that's a big ol CON of the card. It's basically worthless unless you're just hanging out in northern Baja.



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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 03:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajafam  
Interesting that it says nothing on the passports.state.gov site about that. Not sure I'd put all my ducks in a wiki basket.


I thought it was pretty well known the passport card, can not be used for international travel, and it's basically only good for land border crossings or ports-of-entry by sea.

If your travelers are on fixed incomes like you say, and are basically only going to travel by car to Mexico, or even Canada, then I guess the passport card is a good option for them.

However, personally, I would tell them to save their recycled cans, soda and beer bottles, and just get the passport, if it's going to come down to one choice between a passport v passport card.

And again when it comes renewal time, get both, because it's a good deal at $140 dollars and both have their advantages and disadvantages.


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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 03:04 PM


Fixed income doesn't necessarily mean poor. I was referring to people who are no longer working and living on retirement or ...

Personally, if it's only good 50-100 sob, it's worthless to us. But maybe some folks just hang out in Northern Baja?

I'd rather buy tacos with the $120+ bucks we'll save by skipping the card.

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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 03:23 PM


don't know....got mine 8 or 9 years ago when folks were scrambling to get em just to use the ready lanes, back when they were a real time saver, anymore everyone's got one and its time to make the ready lanes and the regular lanes the same.
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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 03:45 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Doesn't the passport book with the camera logo on it also RFID to be used in the Ready Lane?


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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 03:54 PM


New passport books do not work in ready lane, you need a card.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/3678/~/ready-la...

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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 05:33 PM


So, that camera logo in the book cover doesn't signify anything different from our older passports?

Wait, here's what Wiki says... it is called a Biometric Passport: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_passport

Here's what CBP says you need for Ready Lane: https://www.cbp.gov/travel/clearing-cbp/ready-lanes

Guess they don't do the same thing... Well, I have both!




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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 05:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian  
If you have a regular passport no need for a card.
Not true. My recently renewed US driver's license has no photo - so obviously cannot be used for ID. Thus, I need the passport card for that purpose.



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[*] posted on 7-25-2019 at 07:03 PM


Quote: Originally posted by unbob  
Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian  
If you have a regular passport no need for a card.
Not true. My recently renewed US driver's license has no photo - so obviously cannot be used for ID. Thus, I need the passport card for that purpose.


And the book doesn't work in the Ready Lanes at the border.




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