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David K
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Thanks for posting. This happened to my wife and I, there in 2015. We were let go much quicker, however. If I didn't have as much love for Baja it
easily could have been our last trip south.
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tecatero
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Two weeks ago, military planted weed in side door of A surfboard shaper whom has a home in San Juanico. He told them it wasn’t his and that they put
it there !,, brazen move but they let him go no fine. Hmmmmm
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Pacifico
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Quote: Originally posted by tecatero | Two weeks ago, military planted weed in side door of A surfboard shaper whom has a home in San Juanico. He told them it wasn’t his and that they put
it there !,, brazen move but they let him go no fine. Hmmmmm |
WOW! That would be scary!!! Imagine if the military guys pushed it...it would be your word against theirs! Not good...
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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mojo_norte
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Quote: Originally posted by Pacifico | Quote: Originally posted by tecatero | Two weeks ago, military planted weed in side door of A surfboard shaper whom has a home in San Juanico. He told them it wasn’t his and that they put
it there !,, brazen move but they let him go no fine. Hmmmmm |
WOW! That would be scary!!! Imagine if the military guys pushed it...it would be your word against theirs! Not good... |
How far could they push it if they just want money off of you ? Demand a large fine - isn't that the roll of other authorities ? And isn't a small
bit of weed technically legal ? I'd say the call is just stay cool as possible and vehemently deny anything .
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SFandH
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Any place to report this? An ombudsman for tourists?
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mojo_norte
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This has been going on for awhile at this particular checkpoint . Sorry to hear it's still occurring
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Pacifico
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Quote: Originally posted by mojo_norte | Quote: Originally posted by Pacifico | Quote: Originally posted by tecatero | Two weeks ago, military planted weed in side door of A surfboard shaper whom has a home in San Juanico. He told them it wasn’t his and that they put
it there !,, brazen move but they let him go no fine. Hmmmmm |
WOW! That would be scary!!! Imagine if the military guys pushed it...it would be your word against theirs! Not good... |
How far could they push it if they just want money off of you ? Demand a large fine - isn't that the roll of other authorities ? And isn't a small
bit of weed technically legal ? I'd say the call is just stay cool as possible and vehemently deny anything . |
I agree...just saying I wouldn't want to be in that situation!
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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Lee
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These guys are punks.
Stop the inspection and demand the Commandante get involved.
Scared? They'll see that and keep pushing. Money? To stop the inspection?
Respectful but indignant comes to mind. Push back and call them out for their bullshlt.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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4x4abc
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last time I wrote a number of mails to the commanders - they apologized and San Ignacio went quiet for a while.
Time to write again!
Venting here and letting us know is good - writing to the command post is better.
Also, get names from those military guys. Take pictures.
to direct your complaints and concerns:
Dirección General de Verificación y Sanción
Presidente Masaryk 172, Piso 5, Col. Bosques de Chapultepec
C. P. 11580, México, D. F.
Correo electrónico: quejas@sectur.gob.mx
Tel. (55) 3002-6300 Ext. 2380, 2381 y 2393
San Ignacio Checkpoint. All Complaints should go to the commandante 16/a. ZONA MILITAR.
CUARTEL GENERAL 16/a. Z.M. (SARABIA, GTO.).
01800-8311473
denuncia.16zm@mail.sedena.gob.mx
If you are going north, the Military group in charge is at Guerrero Negro on the side of the road by the big Mexico flag.
Here is the contact information for Guerrero Negro.
40/a. ZONA MILITAR.
CUARTEL GENERAL 40/a. Z.M. (GUERRERO NEGRO, B.C.S.).
01615-1570610 01800-8309531
denuncia.40zm@mail.sedena.gob.mx
https://www.facebook.com/SECTURBCS/?fref=gc&dti=60697612...
Secretary of Tourism, Baja Sur
Secretaría de Turismo de Baja California Sur
Departamento de Auxilio Turistico
Sr. Adolfo Gonzalez Garcia
Jefe del departamento de Auxilio Turistico
Phone: 01 (612) 124 - 0100 to 03
Fax: 01 (612) 124 - 0722
E-mail: turismo@gbcs.gob.mx
La Paz, Baja California Sur, Mexico. Km 51/2 Carretera al Norte Edificio Fidepa2
Apartado Postal # 419 CP. 23090
Harald Pietschmann
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AKgringo
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I don't know if the streak will continue, but nobody has wanted to inspect my car since I got my new co-pilot. She has no guard dog attributes, other
than being ninety pounds of muscle and bones with a large head!
Once (I think at San Ignacio) the officer I was talking to waved off the one approaching the car with a dog of their own. Several times in the past I
would put my previous dog on a leash while the vehicle was searched, but with Bailey I have been waved through every stop without inspection.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Lee
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | I don't know if the streak will continue, but nobody has wanted to inspect my car since I got my new co-pilot. She has no guard dog attributes, other
than being ninety pounds of muscle and bones with a large head! |
Last time through my wife was driving (she drives through all checkpoints now), but rolling up to the stop, gave my dog a command and she went
ballistic. Back window was cracked, guy took a step back. Cracked me up.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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ZipLine
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Someone previously wrote:
If you are legit and don't have anything, be cool and look right into the accusers eye and state in fair spanish "no tengo nada ilegal, su
insinuacion es bastante poca profesional" it's a simple shakedown, if you get too excited, it works for them.
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I like that approach - I tend to first laugh, just a natural reaction, then big smile and shake my head while saying no, and still laughing. I once
had a soldier ask me if I was transporting guns and - really - it was just humorous I thought. They are just looking for a reaction. If you get all
itchy and defensive, well... they are going to look further or try to do a shake down. If you show no fear at all and just smile, all tends to go
well. Really, what would/should be a natural reaction if you were the guard and asking such questions?
Mostly these are just young kids, if you can give their day a chuckle and a smile, I think they appreciate it.
[Edited on 9-28-2019 by ZipLine]
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John Harper
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Maybe chant "Eh Putos" at the soldiers? Paco Facullo says it's just a harmless chant in good humor. I don't know why they would take offense.
John
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BajaTed
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In theory, @ the lowest level, each Ejido has a "Sindictura" agent that is supposed to be used as a check and balance to the mayor and police chief to
report and prevent corruption. In my 30 years in baja, i have met one F2F only once. I got his business card, one of my prized possessions.
Es Todo Bueno
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BajaTed
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Quote: Originally posted by Lee | Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | I don't know if the streak will continue, but nobody has wanted to inspect my car since I got my new co-pilot. She has no guard dog attributes, other
than being ninety pounds of muscle and bones with a large head! |
Last time through my wife was driving (she drives through all checkpoints now), but rolling up to the stop, gave my dog a command and she went
ballistic. Back window was cracked, guy took a step back. Cracked me up. |
BTW, a "Mexican pistolo" is the non PC slang word for a big dog.
Es Todo Bueno
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motoged
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Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | Maybe chant "Eh Putos" at the soldiers? Paco Facullo says it's just a harmless chant in good humor. I don't know why they would take offense.
John |
Don't believe everything you think....
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Goyo
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Thank you Harald for providing all the contact info. I want to let you all know that I just sent an email describing my experience to the four email
addresses that Harald mentioned. Hopefully, it will have some type of positive effect. Thanks again Harald.
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SFandH
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Quote: Originally posted by Goyo | Thank you Harald for providing all the contact info. I want to let you all know that I just sent an email describing my experience to the four email
addresses that Harald mentioned. Hopefully, it will have some type of positive effect. Thanks again Harald. |
Good!
I have a copy of Harald's info tucked away and will do the same if need be. I'll be watching those guys closely when I drive through in October.
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ZipLine
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Very helpful, Harald. Thank you!
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Marc
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Sorry to hear. We went through going and coming in April/May and were waved through. Thought all this was done with.
[Edited on 9-28-2019 by Marc]
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