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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 01:45 PM


Wow Steve nice pictures, thanks.
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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 01:50 PM


Ken, Mano Canyon is where I was leading your group from Guadalupe Canyon with a desire to reach the summit (2003?). You hiked up to the waterfall of the Virgin that morning and with such a late start for the Jeep run, we only got to the lower end of the canyon. You Jeep guys found a boulder you all could drive one tire up onto for photo opps. The fellow in the Isuzu (name?) and me in the Toyota just watched as had fun talking there.

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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 02:02 PM


Great photos Steve, thanks for sharing. I see that you made it to El Topo. Did "Calcia" (the brown dog) great you? Was Beto tending the ranch alone? The ranch has been thin on help for several weeks. Your Honda 4x4 looks quite capable, a nice rig for exploring. Open-air always feels more adventurous. Very cool.
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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 03:26 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Ken, Mano Canyon is where I was leading your group from Guadalupe Canyon with a desire to reach the summit (2003?). You hiked up to the waterfall of the Virgin that morning and with such a late start for the Jeep run, we only got to the lower end of the canyon. You Jeep guys found a boulder you all could drive one tire up onto for photo opps. The fellow in the Isuzu (name?) and me in the Toyota just watched as had fun talking there.

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Based on past photographs (Nov. 2013) and information from local guides (Saturnino Valdez, for one) I believe you took us to a much closer canyon and not Mano Canyon back in 2004.



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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 04:08 PM


It was Mano... I was following my GPS points from the drive down the year before. That is why you asked me to lead since I had the recent and GPS knowledge of how to get there from Guadalupe.

When we took a left fork, I was thinking it was to the stone cabin but it was a bit too soon and it ended where that boulder was. About here is where the big rock was:

https://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=31.80227,-115.659&z=14&a...

https://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=31.80252,-115.6581&z=16&...



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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 04:17 PM


Do you recognize this gate?

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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 04:26 PM


It looks like it could be the site of the formerly locked gate (on the AAA map)?



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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 04:29 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
It looks like it could be the site of the formerly locked gate (on the AAA map)?


Is that Mano Canyon?



A stone cabin is below this washout/off-camber section


Stairstep section about 1/2 mile downhill of this location


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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 04:33 PM


YES Ken! Right before Rancho El Mano
The AAA map is in this thread. [reposted here]
Locked Gate (I added "NOT" to it)...




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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 04:38 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
YES Ken! Right before Rancho El Mano
The AAA map is in this thread. [reposted here]
Locked Gate (I added "NOT" to it)...





The AAA map is irrelevant - actual landmarks are more useful in this varied region.
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Quote: Originally posted by Maderita  
Great photos Steve, thanks for sharing. I see that you made it to El Topo. Did "Calcia" (the brown dog) great you? Was Beto tending the ranch alone? The ranch has been thin on help for several weeks. Your Honda 4x4 looks quite capable, a nice rig for exploring. Open-air always feels more adventurous. Very cool.


El topo was busy with about 10 vehicles and a number of families wondering around so I didn't stop long. I asked for Ricardo and if I could pass and then I was on my way. Id like to take my wife back there for some horse back riding. She likes to ride and it looks like some cool scenery.

It kind of seems like we should organize a trip to tackle Mano canyon! :-)

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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 04:50 PM


The other thing that was notable was the amount of Mexicans up at the Lake in all SORTS of vehicles. The road to/from Ojos had mud fields 10 inches deep if you fell into a rut. 100-200ft long. Probably 20-30 of this sort on the way.

Literally I saws a couple of honda civics and a number of CRV type vehicles. They would get highsided/stuck in a mud bog; people would pitch in to unstuck them and then they would keep going up! It was incredible.

The next morning as I traversed the lake - all of them gone. Like magic.

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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 05:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
YES Ken! Right before Rancho El Mano
The AAA map is in this thread. [reposted here]
Locked Gate (I added "NOT" to it)...





The AAA map is irrelevant - actual landmarks are more useful in this varied region.


Not to me, as the AAA map actually correctly shows the road I traveled (highlighted in blue) and provides the name (Mano) which was what you were looking for. I also gave links to satellite and topo maps that also named the canyon "Mano" the road climbs up from.

Between the Jamau Summit Road (1942 Pole Line Route) and La Rumorosa, the Mano Grade is the only road from the desert to the pine forest.

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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 07:54 PM


The real track
Here is the east side track used by 2013 NORRA and 2019 SCORE

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[*] posted on 12-31-2019 at 08:16 PM


Steve, check your U2U
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[*] posted on 1-1-2020 at 09:26 AM


Paul, the road climbs even higher than the 4,117' summit you showed. The next ridge to the west, near Rancho Los Pinos, brings you to over 5,000'.



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[*] posted on 1-2-2020 at 01:56 AM


Pole Line Road - up El Jamau trail shown in first 3 minutes of video.

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Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Paul, the road climbs even higher than the 4,117' summit you showed. The next ridge to the west, near Rancho Los Pinos, brings you to over 5,000'.

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Yes - Mis-placed marker. Not my WP.
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[*] posted on 1-2-2020 at 11:02 PM
Tijuana 4x4 El Topo Jan 2020 video


I heard El Topo mentioned. Here is a video released recently by Tijuana 4x4 Club. One of their members attended my 'El Imposible' run in February 2019. He drives a 2007 Rubicon 2dr JK on 38" BFG KM2s and Rubicon Express long arm suspension. Here is their video.

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