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[*] posted on 2-5-2020 at 12:30 PM
inReach track map (Dolores/ Los Burros area)


My quest was to see Mission Los Dolores (X on white dot) from the canyonside ridge viewpoint. There are two... the first I walked to from the yellow triangle at and the other is the longer walk from the road with the hiking man symbol at. Los Burros is at the east end of the road shown on the inReach map... Mission Los Dolores (1721-1741 site) has no road to it unless you bring your vehicle in by boat to the beach!





Here is the region track map, showing the area of three mission sites (San Luis Gonzaga, La Pasión, Los Dolores) southeast from Constitución and the drive to San Evaristo and on to La Paz:


(the cluster at the top right labeled 4 is Los Dolores as seen in the previous map).



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[*] posted on 2-5-2020 at 02:07 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
We rode into Timbabichi last year around Easter. It's a fun ride and a very cool bay at Puerto Gato. Have ridden from San Evaristo to La Paz many times in the last 3 years, great run along the coast. The ride into SE from MX 1 is pretty easy and fun.

When did you do the back door into Agua Verde from Constitucion? We tried going from AV to Constitucion about 2 years ago. Got a couple miles into it, tons of rock slides. I had the truck in AV, and it wasn't making it, so we turned around.

One of the best rides South of La Paz is along the coast to Los Barriles. The dirt starts at San Juan de Los Planes. Top 5 coastal ride in all of Baja.

Give us more details of what your looking for.


AV back door trail:





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hey jz, you got a copy of this backdoor route i can load into gaia? want to check it out next time im down there

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[*] posted on 2-5-2020 at 02:51 PM


Here you go.



Attachment: Area Around Agua Verde.kmz (12kB)
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Attachment: Area Around Timbabichi.kmz (17kB)
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[*] posted on 2-5-2020 at 05:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Here you go.



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[*] posted on 2-5-2020 at 06:25 PM


Note, around Timbabichi, there are two routes going into Puerto Gato. I made both using Google Earth ahead of the trip.

The inland route is bike only. Even then, it's fairly challenging, at least in the dark when running out of gas and your phone battery dying. I learned this the hard way riding it with my kid - lol.

The coastal route is fine for a truck.




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[*] posted on 2-5-2020 at 06:44 PM


the drive through Santa Maria to San Jose de la Noria is a lot more scenic than the fast road coming from Insurjentes
how Baja rides used to feel 30 years ago
turn off at km29

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[*] posted on 2-5-2020 at 06:51 PM


Harald, that is really appreciated. You are the best poster on this board.





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[*] posted on 2-5-2020 at 08:46 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
the drive through Santa Maria to San Jose de la Noria is a lot more scenic than the fast road coming from Insurjentes
how Baja rides used to feel 30 years ago
turn off at km29



thank u sir! will check it out soon and report back




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[*] posted on 2-5-2020 at 10:01 PM


here are some images from that side valley to San Jose de la Noria
I don't like 800pix images - so here is a link:
https://carlosnpainter.smugmug.com/Travel/El-Quepo/

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[*] posted on 2-6-2020 at 12:52 PM


This is all very useful info, I really appreciate everyone, especially 4x4abc, giving the advice and tracks. I will be sure to update everything when I get back.

On another note, does anyone know if there's a backway to Tres Virgenes from San Francisquito? I had heard of a 'no wimps trail' on advrider but am having a hard time finding recent information on this coastal route.
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[*] posted on 2-6-2020 at 01:58 PM


very very cool road!
However, the land around San Miguel changed ownership and gates are locked.
You can still have a great driving experience coming from the south - if you don't mind doubling back.
Has been the trend in Baja for some years - we are losing more and more access




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[*] posted on 2-6-2020 at 02:06 PM


since we are on this subject - does anyone have the location of the northern locked gate for Rancho San Miguel?



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[*] posted on 2-6-2020 at 02:07 PM


Why not give him a look at the No Wimps route so he knows how to get to it. Your trip reports showing the rocky driving near Rancho La Trinidad was pretty awesome!

Here's that photo sized to 800 pixels using Postimages.org:



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[*] posted on 2-6-2020 at 02:36 PM


Does the road go through from El Barril to La Trinidad? I traced a road all the way from La Trinidad to 27°32'39.82"N, 112°34'45.28"W but from there it looks like there's a steep canyon between that road and another road that runs south to Tres Virgenes.

Just looking for a shortcut from San Francisquito to San Ignacio without taking the normal route past Piedras Blancas.
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Quote: Originally posted by colloquialoatmeal  
Does the road go through from El Barril to La Trinidad? I traced a road all the way from La Trinidad to 27°32'39.82"N, 112°34'45.28"W but from there it looks like there's a steep canyon between that road and another road that runs south to Tres Virgenes.

Just looking for a shortcut from San Francisquito to San Ignacio without taking the normal route past Piedras Blancas.


That's the No Wimps area. I have tracks that go from El Barril to San Ignacio. The problem is there are now locked gates at the North part of the trail.





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[*] posted on 2-6-2020 at 03:17 PM


Here are tracks from the No Wimps trail.



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[*] posted on 2-6-2020 at 03:19 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
since we are on this subject - does anyone have the location of the northern locked gate for Rancho San Miguel?


I believe it is here: 28.242788° -112.939063°.





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[*] posted on 2-6-2020 at 03:19 PM


At Trinidad, the route south first goes west to meet El Camino Real. Then turns south to Rancho Rosarito, passes the side road to Santa Marta, and reach Hwy. 1 at the ejido village between San Ignacio and Santa Rosalía.



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[*] posted on 2-6-2020 at 04:45 PM


I searched the forums and people say the gates were locked in 2018 but can't find anything more recent than that. I guess I'll have to go investigate.

Does anyone know if there is gas in El Barril? I have usually gotten gas in San Rafael and once at the place on the north end of the bay at San Francisquito.

Thanks for the tracks!
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