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 Trudeau screwed the Canadian ppl by botching the vaccine roll out.
 
 Canada is 54th in the world.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  |  | | Quote: Originally posted by del mar  |  | | Quote: Originally posted by motoged  |  | I can't help but think that the third wave of infections with new variants will result in some re-evaluations of the stats collected so far. 
 What is the real end-game  of those who are invested in minimizing the reality and seriousness of Covid and variant spreads ?
 
 https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1882906691980
 
 And will these folks accept vaccines while denying reality?
 
 Just curious.
 
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 somethings wrong with that link Ged?
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 Lots of people will reject the vaccine. Many of these same people reject:
 Warnings against smoking
 Recommendations for or laws requiring motorcycle helmets
 Recommendations for or laws requiring Seat belts in cars
 
 Some people are just reckless, crazy or stupid
 
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 Personal choices are a cornerstone of freedom.
 What you consider reckless, crazy or stupid are YOUR opinions.
 Some people have a stronger stomach than others for risk.
 More people died settling the West than by Covid.
 
 They werent reckless, crazy or stupid. They wisely exercised their freedom to flourish. They just didnt wear panties with brown racing stripes in them
like you, GOAT666 and Motoged
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 Looking forward to intelligent responses
   
 
 
 
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 Said EVERYONE who has ever had a conversation with you.
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 Oh, I get it now. You get to pretend you are John Wayne and buy into this distorted rant about "personal freedoms".
 
 Over half a million dead exercised their freedom.... and more deniers will spread the viruses because they are "free".
 
 Uncle Crazy, you are handcuffed by this illusion of freedom without responsibility. It's an archaic position to hold.
 
 Thanks for the clarification.
 
 Good luck with all that
   
 
 
 
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 More young people getting sick, no pre-existing conditions, ending up in ICU.
 
 https://ca.news.yahoo.com/average-age-quebec-covid-19-080000...
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 no so many arrows in your quiver eh tio?
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 Obviously fake news!
 
 
 
 
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 “Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
 
 “...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
 
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 Try reading the article.
 
 'But hospitalizations are still not rising significantly among people under 30. "It's younger," he said of the average age of patients. "It's not
young."'
 
 Of course if you vaccinate the older ppl the overall age of hospitalizations will drop.
 
 The amount of ppl on here rooting for the virus is unbelievable.
 
 And the same ppl don't give a damn about the millions pushed to poverty and mental illness by over reaching and unnecessary lock downs.
 
 
 
 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by motoged  |  | 
 Oh, I get it now. You get to pretend you are John Wayne and buy into this distorted rant about "personal freedoms".
 
 Over half a million dead exercised their freedom.... and more deniers will spread the viruses because they are "free".
 
 Uncle Crazy, you are handcuffed by this illusion of freedom without responsibility. It's an archaic position to hold.
 
 Thanks for the clarification.
 
 Good luck with all that
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 Thank you for your kind words. Maybe they will help you get off of BN probation soon.
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 “ More young people getting sick, no pre-existing conditions, ending up in ICU.
 
 https://ca.news.yahoo.com/average-age-quebec-covid-19-080000...
 
 Another fear mongering headline to try and get clicks.
 
 Gives the press a bad reputation.
 
 But nothing new.
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 My question remains:
 
 " What is the end-game for  covid minimizer/deniers ? " .
  
 
 
 P.S.    I get my shot April 19th....hope it has all the 5G chips the needle will allow through so I can continue to hide safely in my basement and
live off government handouts I clearly haven't earned or deserve.
 
 
 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by JZ  |  | Trudeau screwed the Canadian ppl by botching the vaccine roll out. 
 Canada is 54th in the world.
 
 
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 I get my shot April 19th....about a month before I expected....
 
 https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canada-vaccine-rollout-data-1.5980588
 
 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-vaccine-bc-1.5835318
 
 [Edited on 4-9-2021 by motoged]
 
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 It's all about the fish, Ged, all about the fish.
 
 
   
 
 
 
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 Well....finally....was wunderin' ....
  
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 | Quote: Originally posted by motoged  |  | My question remains: 
 " What is the end-game for  covid minimizer/deniers ? " .
  
 
 
 P.S.    I get my shot April 19th....hope it has all the 5G chips the needle will allow through so I can continue to hide safely in my basement and
live off government handouts I clearly haven't earned or deserve.
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 As long as you don’t get the booster shot the batteries will wear out and you will be able move unobserved once again.
 
 The various vaccine effectiveness and actually the roll out in the United States are real success stories.
 
 Dr. Fauci in the recent news conference had very good news on how long immunity lasts for both the vaccine and for those that have recovered from
covid.
 
 https://youtu.be/0b9fRC8YrWI
 
 The cdc has updated their guidance on clearing surfaces noting
 
 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-r...
 
 “ People can be infected with SARS-CoV-2 through contact with surfaces. However, based on available epidemiological data and studies of
environmental transmission factors, surface transmission is not the main route by which SARS-CoV-2 spreads, and the risk is considered to be low. The
principal mode by which people are infected with SARS-CoV-2 is through exposure to respiratory droplets carrying infectious virus. In most situations,
cleaning surfaces using soap or detergent, and not disinfecting, is enough to reduce risk. Disinfection is recommended in indoor community settings
where there has been a suspected or confirmed case of COVID-19 within the last 24 hours. The risk of fomite transmission can be reduced by wearing
masks consistently and correctly, practicing hand hygiene, cleaning, and taking other measures to maintain healthy facilities.”
 
 We know there have been vaccinations in Baja Sur of some of the older population,
 
 I think there is plenty of good real news about the covid pandemic.
 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by lencho  |  | 
 Which bother me, not because there's anything integrally wrong with them, rather for seeming myopic and "me-focused".  The fact a lot
of people (well, Americans for sure) seem to forget is that are not islands, and in my opinion if we really want to get rid of COVID
we have to pull together in order to overcome it a la smallpox or polio.
 
 
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 I agree with the "me" focus being bad.  I just see it from two prospectives.
 
 1)  Those being reckless and not having regard for others
 
 2)  Those who don't have to work for a living or who can work from home, etc. telling others they can't work and telling ppl to not support them by
doing things that keep the economy going.  These "me" only ppl are financially safe, so they don't care about the economic or mental struggles of
others.
 
 Both are selfish, "me" first positions in my book.  Several on here are guilty of #2.
 
 I've gone out of my way to be safe, avoid crowds, where a mask, etc., etc.  But still live life and support others.  I.e.  visited 10+ states last
year.  Traveled almost a week out of every month from Mar to Dec.  I didn't get Covid.  Didn't give it to anyone.  And just got the J&J shot
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 I'm glad to hear no one took your ability to work away from you and you were able to support your family.
 
 
 
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 How do you know this?  Many people get covid and are asymptomatic and spread the disease, and never know it...
 
 This has been going on for over a year and you still don’t know the basics.  Sad.
 
 
 
 
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