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AKgringo
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Changing flights tip
If it is reasonably close, go directly to an airport where your departure, or return flight is (or was) scheduled to leave from.
Negotiating across the counter, face to face with a live person, I have been able to accomplish changes that would likely never happen over the phone
or by exchanging messages online!
[Edited on 1-14-2022 by AKgringo]
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Lee
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Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  |
We know a few people in Todos Santos / Pescadero, but haven't thought to presume ourselves upon them in an emergency situation. We may make some
inquiries this weekend, hoping to secure the proverbial unused umbrella. |
If I had room, and I don't, doubtful I'd welcome anyone testing positive.
Seriously, you NEED a backup plan (confirmed place to stay) should you test positive. Hotels are testing arrivals, aren't they?
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F*ck it.
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pauldavidmena
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena |
We know a few people in Todos Santos / Pescadero, but haven't thought to presume ourselves upon them in an emergency situation. We may make some
inquiries this weekend, hoping to secure the proverbial unused umbrella. |
If I had room, and I don't, doubtful I'd welcome anyone testing positive.
Seriously, you NEED a backup plan (confirmed place to stay) should you test positive. Hotels are testing arrivals, aren't they?
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Hi Lee,
I should dial back my statement about making inquiries, as I would never expect friends or acquaintances to welcome us into their homes if either of
us were to test positive. I was thinking more of a fantasy scenario where someone we knew had a property that was vacant (during peak season) and
would let us stay for five days.
Apart from canceling our trip altogether, which remains a possibility, here is what I'm thinking:
Inquire of the property manager regarding an extended stay
Purchase enough food for the additional five days
If negative, leave the extra food with friends or the property manager
If we test positive, we would have to return to our rental casita to gather our belongings anyway, so unless he has a tenant immediately following our
stay (a distinct possibility), I would think he'd be open to the additional income. If not, we'll have the unenviable task of trying to find a hotel
(Casa Tota, perhaps?) that 1) has vacancies, and 2) will let us stay there.
I'm hopeful that we continue to defy the odds and that all of this contingency planning is just an exercise in needless worry.
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Alm
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I understand this is for air arrivals only.
Didn't fly internationally since Covid - chose to drive, but I would "think" the airline will deny the boarding. You'll be allowed again in 14 days or
with a negative test, whichever comes earlier. Need a backup plan - hardly a problem for somebody retired who owns/leases a place in Baja. More
hassle if you work. At least, this is a cheap and widely available test that can be ready in a couple of hours, not a PCR/NAAT test that may cost
$200-250 in Baja and takes longer to process.
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pauldavidmena
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
I understand this is for air arrivals only.
Didn't fly internationally since Covid - chose to drive, but I would "think" the airline will deny the boarding. You'll be allowed again in 14 days or
with a negative test, whichever comes earlier. Need a backup plan - hardly a problem for somebody retired who owns/leases a place in Baja. More
hassle if you work. At least, this is a cheap and widely available test that can be ready in a couple of hours, not a PCR/NAAT test that may cost
$200-250 in Baja and takes longer to process. |
Yes - this is for air arrivals only, as far as I know. Theoretically the quarantine time is 5 days or a negative test. I'll be flying into Cabo on Feb
3 and leaving on Feb 11. Unfortunately I don't have a place in Baja and will only be renting a casita via AirBnB. We do have appointments to take the
tests in Todos Santos within 24 hours of the flight, and have a Plan B in the event of a positive test, but there will still be quite a bit of
scrambling involved beyond just having a place to quarantine.
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | We do have appointments to take the tests in Todos Santos within 24 hours of the flight, and have a Plan B in the event of a positive test, but there
will still be quite a bit of scrambling involved beyond just having a place to quarantine. |
Right. Backup plan is a place to stay in case of a positive reading. Turd in the punchbowl might be not getting into a hotel anywhere (Tota) if
they are testing at arrival.
Worse case scenario is being sicker than mild symptoms -- and unable to fly for awhile -- 1-2-3 weeks or more.
Before I left last Spring, we had a German couple staying with us, they had a tricked out Sprinter type van. Last I heard they flew to DF, and
Germany had closed their borders and the couple couldn't leave MX. Don't know what happened.
Just saying. You don't want to get sick down there. Esp. since you're flying.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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JZ
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I've traveled extensively during Covid.
Personally, with Omicron I wouldn't fly into Baja right now. Drive in, sure.
Hopefully by the end of Feb we'll be in a much better place.
[Edited on 1-18-2022 by JZ]
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Paul, I for one am very glad you decided to make the trip, and it sounds like you have taken every reasonable precaution and step you can.
I am sure you are vaccinated and plenty careful, and with Omicron the vast majority of current cases down here and no where near as dangerous as
earlier variants, you should be fine.
We are only 100 miles or so away, and although leaving during your stay, believe we can find you a place to stay for 5 days in the unlikelihood a
worst case emergency does arise.
I would even go so far to say that if such a situation arose there would be several Nomads that would help you find an appropriate solution.
A life of fears leads to a death bed of regrets.
Find someone who will take care of you, and take care of them.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by 100X | Paul, I for one am very glad you decided to make the trip, and it sounds like you have taken every reasonable precaution and step you can.
I am sure you are vaccinated and plenty careful, and with Omicron the vast majority of current cases down here and no where near as dangerous as
earlier variants, you should be fine.
We are only 100 miles or so away, and although leaving during your stay, believe we can find you a place to stay for 5 days in the unlikelihood a
worst case emergency does arise.
I would even go so far to say that if such a situation arose there would be several Nomads that would help you find an appropriate solution.
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That is super kind of you to offer.
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pauldavidmena
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by 100X | Paul, I for one am very glad you decided to make the trip, and it sounds like you have taken every reasonable precaution and step you can.
I am sure you are vaccinated and plenty careful, and with Omicron the vast majority of current cases down here and no where near as dangerous as
earlier variants, you should be fine.
We are only 100 miles or so away, and although leaving during your stay, believe we can find you a place to stay for 5 days in the unlikelihood a
worst case emergency does arise.
I would even go so far to say that if such a situation arose there would be several Nomads that would help you find an appropriate solution.
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That is super kind of you to offer.
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For all of the rancor we see on BN (as well as the complaining about said rancor), there are some very decent, generous people on this board who
instinctively help fellow Nomads, or in my case Nomads-in-training. I'm quite grateful.
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | .
Yes - this is for air arrivals only, as far as I know. Theoretically the quarantine time is 5 days or a negative test. I'll be flying into Cabo on Feb
3 and leaving on Feb 11. Unfortunately I don't have a place in Baja and will only be renting a casita via AirBnB. We do have appointments to take the
tests in Todos Santos within 24 hours of the flight, and have a Plan B in the event of a positive test, but there will still be quite a bit of
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Does CDC say 5 days? It takes 5-7 days to develop symptoms, don't remember CDC guidelines for quarantine. Recovery - until you're well and don't shed
the virus anymore - takes a bit longer than 5 days.
Omicron doesn't give much reason for complacency. It is less deadly than Alpha and Delta - 2 times less, 3 times? not clear yet - but it's also more
contagious, the latter partly negates the former. And Delta is still there. Mortality is lagging by about one month behind the cases spikes. Besides,
mortality isn't everything, we've been there before, long-term (read - permanent) complications upon recovery are common. I know people who developed
lung problems after they've recovered and couldn't breathe normally in Colorado where they lived.
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elgatoloco
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | .
Yes - this is for air arrivals only, as far as I know. Theoretically the quarantine time is 5 days or a negative test. I'll be flying into Cabo on Feb
3 and leaving on Feb 11. Unfortunately I don't have a place in Baja and will only be renting a casita via AirBnB. We do have appointments to take the
tests in Todos Santos within 24 hours of the flight, and have a Plan B in the event of a positive test, but there will still be quite a bit of
scrambling involved beyond just having a place to quarantine. |
Does CDC say 5 days? It takes 5-7 days to develop symptoms, don't remember CDC guidelines for quarantine. Recovery - until you're well and don't shed
the virus anymore - takes a bit longer than 5 days.
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quaran...
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pauldavidmena
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Five days was what St. Jude's hospital in Todos Santos - who will be conducting the test - told me was the required waiting period between the
positive test and the recommended remediation:
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If you do come out positive either one of you or both, you would need to quarantine 5 days and then come in for an antibodies and a dr's note
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I'm not 100% sure what is meant by "[an] antibodies", but I assume it means a retest. I have to wonder whether or not I could have a second test after
24 hours (instead of waiting 5 days) and - if it ends up being negative - I could use that test result to board a plane back to the U.S.?
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