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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 01:01 PM


Now post how much funding researchers get for studying climate change, and how much funding they would lose if they found climate change was a natural occurrence.




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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 02:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Now post how much funding researchers get for studying climate change, and how much funding they would lose if they found climate change was a natural occurrence.


... and how much they get if they admit money won't change the climate or other natural events. You can't pay a volcano to not erupt :lol::lol::lol:!




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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 03:07 PM


Megadrought shmegadrought says David K. Mierdadrought also.

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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 03:45 PM


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Now post how much funding researchers get for studying climate change, and how much funding they would lose if they found climate change was a natural occurrence.


Guess the simpleton logic works for cancer research as well:lol:








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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 03:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Now post how much funding researchers get for studying climate change, and how much funding they would lose if they found climate change was a natural occurrence.


Guess the simpleton logic works for cancer research as well:lol:



Physics too!

All science is false, all studies faked in quest to get new research moneys!
The whole body of science in the past 50 years is a sham!




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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 04:01 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Now post how much funding researchers get for studying climate change, and how much funding they would lose if they found climate change was a natural occurrence.


Guess the simpleton logic works for cancer research as well:lol:



Were you drinking your home brew when you came up with that false equivalency?

How many advances in cancer treatment have occurred? Govt. isn't stopping mother nature.





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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 04:24 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Now post how much funding researchers get for studying climate change, and how much funding they would lose if they found climate change was a natural occurrence.


Your priorities are sad. You see conspiracies, along with David, in everything that you don't understand. Politics, climate, research.

One day when you two mature, you'll wonder why you created so much drama in your life.

Add Tom, Clark and the other far right paranoids here and you may qualify for a Happy Meal. Give it a try. Your kids will think old dad was wrong on so many things. Why?




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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 04:40 PM


The only conspiracy is that the lovers of BIG Government, high taxes, and a crippled economy, have with real science (which is observed facts from real events). Science is NOT a study of predictions of something that hasn't happened. That is better done by gypsies with glass balls or politicians with no balls.



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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 04:42 PM


I don’t “see conspiracies” the special prosecutor is indicting the people who were involved in them! Perhaps you should wait and see who ends up on trial!

On water, if California hadn't shut down all their nuclear power plants they could build desalination plants to supply water. But now that’s not a choice! But you can do something today to help. Move out of state! We did!
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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 06:28 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Lee  

Add Tom, Clark and the other far right paranoids here and you may qualify for a Happy Meal.


Only if they get the senior discount and it's on the dollar menu!! At McDonald's, they don't even have to leave a tip! Win-Win.

It seems a true blessing that so many bitter people move from California.

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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 07:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Science is NOT a study of predictions of something that hasn't happened.


I guess theoretical physics is not science. Black holes were predicted long before we had the ability to observe them, as were the effects of building an atomic bomb. I believe the Higg's boson as well, and the observations made by Edwin Hubble at our nearby Wilson Observatory, which confirmed the expansion of the universe. Prediction is what science is all about, even predicting potentially dominant flu strains and determining the characteristics of emerging/developing covid mutations.

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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 07:16 PM


No, not bitter just getting out before the bill comes due for 4 decades of mismanagement! “Bitter” describes those stuck there paying for services that those in charge can't supply, Goat comes to mind!

There’s no water shortage, gas is about $3.60/Gal, propane is $2.00/gal, good NY steak is $7.00/Lb, the shelves are full in the stores and my property taxes are $140/year.

What’s not to like about Baja?

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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 07:20 PM


RFClark: Sounds almost ideal. Care too share where you moved to?



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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 07:23 PM


Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
No, not bitter just getting out before the bill comes due for 4 decades of mismanagement! “Bitter” describes those stuck there paying for services that those in charge can't supply, Goat comes to mind!


What "services" were you deprived of while living in California? Were you deprived of water, electricity, fire or police services? Or, just bitter about California growing browner? Do you think "those people" were grifting off you? We're the 6th largest economy in the world, that costs money to maintain, good and bad come with that.

And, neighbor Goat pays taxes. What has he done? Is he a "taker?"

You need a Happy Meal! My treat. I can order online and you can pick it up!

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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 08:07 PM


As a business owner in Los Angeles.

Police don't respond to most property crimes not involving the use of a gun. When they respond at all it’s slow. At night there are often just 4 units to cover the SF valley!

The downtown streets are literally lined with people living on the sidewalks. Also using them for a bathroom!

Water is rationed, has been for years on and off. Streets are frequently flooded and the water is off because of breaks in 100+ year old pipes.

Trash is collected sometimes, the streets are full of potholes, the sidewalks are broken. In some areas the electricity is turned off when the wind blows.

Stores are closing as a result of the no bail/under $900 in thefts are a walk policy!

Most of the problem makers are OTMs! I’ve worked in Mexico (legally) on and off for 40 years, with the locals. Hardly the conduct of a “racist”! Now we live there! Also hardly “racist”!

California’s and LA’s taxes are among the highest in the US!
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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 08:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
As a business owner in Los Angeles.

Police don't respond to most property crimes not involving the use of a gun. When they respond at all it’s slow. At night there are often just 4 units to cover the SF valley!

The downtown streets are literally lined with people living on the sidewalks. Also using them for a bathroom!

Water is rationed, has been for years on and off. Streets are frequently flooded and the water is off because of breaks in 100+ year old pipes.

Trash is collected sometimes, the streets are full of potholes, the sidewalks are broken. In some areas the electricity is turned off when the wind blows.

Stores are closing as a result of the no bail/under $900 in thefts are a walk policy!

Most of the problem makers are OTMs! I’ve worked in Mexico (legally) on and off for 40 years, with the locals. Hardly the conduct of a “racist”! Now we live there! Also hardly “racist”!

California’s and LA’s taxes are among the highest in the US!


You just precisely described Tijuana (except for the tax thing). I live there.

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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 08:26 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by Copacetico1  
So, if the drought is 1,200 years old and the Industrial Age is only 200 years old, what caused the climate change BEFORE man's carbon footprint? Doesn't this say human-caused climate change is all BS?


Causes of global warming: How scientists know that humans are responsible
It’s a conclusion shared by the world’s most respected scientific organizations.
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2020/03/causes-of-global-...




OK, let's assume you and the Yale scientists are correct. Now explain WHY the drought started 1,000 years BEFORE the industrial age and what caused the reason for climate change 1,200 years ago to suddenly end 200 years ago, and man's carbon footprint to take its place.

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[*] posted on 2-18-2022 at 08:39 PM


Copacetico1,

Mexico generally collects a 19% VAT and low property taxes. In California the sales tax is around 10%, the income tax is around 10% LA county collects an inventory tax of a few percent, a payroll tax of a few percent and property tax of a few percent!

As you say sounds like TJ except for lots more taxes than TJ!

On the subject of water. The SouthWest US and Northern Mexico have been subject to droughts for thousands of years. Los Angeles was a desert until recently. Since the 1920’s the equivalent of several large rivers have been diverted into LA and a thousand sq miles of that desert has been watered.

The people who sold their water to LA have long since spent the money and want their water back. (The Owens Valley) Nevada and Arizona are filling up with people (some from California!) and they want their share of water from the Colorado River which has less to divide because of long standing weather cycles.

The politicians basically have dodged all the hard decisions and now there’s too many people living in a desert!

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[*] posted on 2-19-2022 at 12:57 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Science is NOT a study of predictions of something that hasn't happened.


That is precisely what it is.

Newton's laws predicts when a released object WILL hit the ground and at what speed it will do so.

Science would be useless if it didn't predict.
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[*] posted on 2-19-2022 at 07:52 AM


NOAA has released a study regarding raising sea level . 2 feet by the end of the century.
Remember...science doesn't care what you believe.
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