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I've never tried it, but I assume WhatsApp allows you to change the phone number associated with your account. I'd do that before using two SIM
cards.
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US 41 wrote this in his recent baja trip report:
"my phone's talk and text worked, but I discovered that I don't get data in Mexico with my AT&T phone."
I'm not clear about what he means. Does "get data" mean that websites aren't / don't load with his AT&T phone?
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JZ
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | US 41 wrote this in his recent baja trip report:
"my phone's talk and text worked, but I discovered that I don't get data in Mexico with my AT&T phone."
I'm not clear about what he means. Does "get data" mean that websites aren't / don't load with his AT&T phone? |
Some times you need to go into settings and enable "international data." Or perhaps his plan doesn't support it.
The AT&T store can set it up for you. Make sure you sign up for the North America plan or whatever they call it these days.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
But, almost all Internet authentication systems now assume you have a SMS capable phone to receive authentication codes. |
My brains are slow late in the night, but, other than Google-related accounts, I can't think right now of any account - bank, taxation, healthcare,
social services - that would be that picky. There is always an option of getting confirmation code by email OR by phone via regular voice.
Good advice on Wifi calling, make sure your phone has this feature and your plan allows Wifi calling while roaming in Baja.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
My brains are slow late in the night, but, other than Google-related accounts, I can't think right now of any account - bank, taxation, healthcare,
social services - that would be that picky. There is always an option of getting confirmation code by email OR by phone via regular voice.
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This is not true. I booked a flight tonight on Singapore Airlines. Two times I had to respond via text to confirm what I did on their website.
Probably 5 times a week I have to do a 2-factor authentication via text. Some times email is enough, but not often.
[Edited on 6-5-2022 by JZ]
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
My brains are slow late in the night, but, other than Google-related accounts, I can't think right now of any account - bank, taxation, healthcare,
social services - that would be that picky. There is always an option of getting confirmation code by email OR by phone via regular voice.
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This is not true. I booked a flight tonight on Singapore Airlines. Two times I had to respond via text to confirm what I did on their website.
Probably 5 times a week I have to do a 2-factor authentication via text. Some times email is enough, but not often.
[Edited on 6-5-2022 by JZ] |
It seems that more and more web procedures assume SMS messaging is available for 2-factor authentication.
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Thanks lencho.
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I recall Google Voice were planning to stop forwarding SMS to carrier-linked numbers.
Funny, I remember my first impression when eventually switched to smartphone - man, this thing bulky  . And inconvenient - everything is onscreen, there is no tactile feedback like when pushing a button on flip phone, it
needs more attention.
If you only need a smartphone for SMS, you don't need much data. People are browsing the web and watching videos on these tiny screens. If you are
not going to do this away from home, you'll need very little data, less than 5 GB. At home it goes through Wifi so you don't use the phone data.
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My wife has an iPhone and AT&T as a carrier. I don't remember if it switches to AT&T Mexico or Telcel when we travel. I have an Android phone
using T-Mobile as a carrier, which always switches to Telcel in Mexico. We try to use WiFi and not our cellular data plans whenever possible, but
neither of us have run into any problems in BCS, although there are several dead spots between the Los Cabos airport and Todos Santos when we drive
between the two locations.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
You actually had to transmit a text in response?
That's a first for me; I've always received a text including a verification code which I had to enter on the web page.
And if this is a trend, it's disturbing: I was wondering if I could set up a Google Voice as my primary number and have it forward SMS to a Telcel
phone when I'm in Mexico, but if it requires an SMS response, that could complicate things. |
They were just verification codes.
Typically the only time you have to actually respond are for fraud alerts. You respond yes or no if you attempted a transaction.
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2 factor verification is for your protection. If you are forwarding text msgs to your email, then the thief that hacks your email will hack your
account with 2 factor verification.
Doing work arounds to defeat 2 factor verification sounds risky…
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
2 factor verification is for your protection. If you are forwarding text msgs to your email, then the thief that hacks your email will hack your
account with 2 factor verification.
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He won't if your Google account including gmail is also protected with 2FA. At least, this was the idea of the article.
The risk of getting your phone number stolen is real. When this happens, they can hack into your other accounts because they can request and receive
SMS code.
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If one only uses a phone for SMS, you don't need a smartphone. Old school dumbphones work just fine.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
If one only uses a phone for SMS, you don't need a smartphone. Old school dumbphones work just fine. |
Right! I wasn't sure after many years, but now I remember - my old flip phone did receive SMS. The pain was sending SMS with 3 letters assigned to
each button. But he isn't going to text anybody, only needs verification codes occasionally.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm | | The pain was sending SMS with 3 letters assigned to each button. But he isn't going to text anybody, only needs verification codes occasionally.
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I got so fast at typing texts on my dumb phone, which I used for years after everyone started having smart phones, that people would see me do it and
be amazed I could type on them so fast.
I actually still have that dumb phone and keep it charged, as some people I know still have that old number, as well as some businesses I deal with. I
don't put any time on it, haven't paid a centavo for years, but incoming calls and texts can still be received, I just can't answer messages on it, or
use it to call back if I miss the call.
I couldn't just switch out the SIM card when I started using a smart phone, because they don't accept the same size SIM cards. I suppose I could have
gotten Telcel to put my old number on the new phone, but didn't think of it at the time.
And really the only reason I graduated to a smart phone, which I resisted for a long time, was because there are no phone lines where I live and had
to connect with a hot spot to get Wifi. Now I have Wifi from a new provider who put up his own towers, but I'm hooked on the smart phone now. :-)
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We have T mobile which works anywhere in Mexico that has service and WIFI calling for the rest that don’t have service. It works for voice and SMS!
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | US 41 wrote this in his recent baja trip report:
"my phone's talk and text worked, but I discovered that I don't get data in Mexico with my AT&T phone."
I'm not clear about what he means. Does "get data" mean that websites aren't / don't load with his AT&T phone? |
To clarify, I have the top AT&T prepaid plan. I'm supposed to get unlimited talk, text, and data in the US, Canada, and Mexico included with my
plan. This was my first time ever leaving the US with this phone, so the talk and text worked fine when I had Telcel service, but I never did have any
data to get online with. It's completely possible that I didn't have my settings adjusted correctly, since this was my first international trip with
the phone. The one thing that I found annoying was that every time I lost service I had to restart my phone once I got service again, in order for the
talk to work.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | US 41 wrote this in his recent baja trip report:
"my phone's talk and text worked, but I discovered that I don't get data in Mexico with my AT&T phone."
I'm not clear about what he means. Does "get data" mean that websites aren't / don't load with his AT&T phone? |
Some times you need to go into settings and enable "international data." Or perhaps his plan doesn't support it.
The AT&T store can set it up for you. Make sure you sign up for the North America plan or whatever they call it these days.
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After like 3 minutes of messing around with my phone I discovered the international data roaming option in my settings and it was turned off. It's too
bad my ignorant self didn't know about that a few weeks ago lol. Oh well, at least I know for next time now. 
Also an addition to my comment above. My phone worked fine with Telcel everywhere except for the Cd Constitucion area for whatever reason. My text
worked there, but I couldn't make calls no matter how many times I restarted my phone. Thankfully my hotel had wifi and I could make calls via
Facebook. That was the only area I had issues in (where my phone said I had service of course).
[Edited on 6-8-2022 by US 41]
[Edited on 6-8-2022 by US 41]
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FYI this coverage map shows how bad ATT is in Baja. 4G only in the dark green areas of large cities. https://www.cricketwireless.com/map.html
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
That map is for Cricket, which may not have the same roaming coverage (utilizing TelCel towers where the ATT Mexico network isn't available) as a
full-fledged ATT account.
Do you happen to know about that? |
Cricket is owned by ATT and this seems like a more honest coverage map. Here's an example from a friend in Mulege last week on ATT. You can see he has
a good signal on the speedtest but slow speeds -
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