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Quote: Originally posted by honda tom  | from what I understand .. Ricardo at rice and beans in san ignacio,
owns a large portion of land at La Trinidad. He would probably have good info. Beto at san francisquito would probably know the info needed at the
north gate. Attempt should be made from north to south. |
I asked Beto about it via email about 3 years ago. Didn't get an exact answer.
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Beto has email, fyi.
Beto's website: http://www.puertosf.com/
His son is/was a Nomad: Bajaboi. His posts: http://forums.bajanomad.com/search.php?srchuname=Bajaboi&...
Beto's card (from a 2021 post):
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I checked the latest sat images yesterday
a number of new roads have been pushed in to Rancho El Gato and to Bahia San Carlos
new beach real state including airstrip (already ditched by Mex army)
10 miles of new road going east out of the San Miguel area
possible prospecting
new road south from El Barril into San Miguel (12 miles)
somebody has big plans
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One time I took my boat from BoLA to Santa Rosalia, passing right by the No Wimps area.
It was flat as could be until we rounded the point at San Francisquito, when all hell broke lose. We were in 8 foot wind waves. Roughest conditions
I've been in ever. Continued to be bad until about 20 miles North of Santa Rosalia. We didn't have a chance to stop and see the No Wimp beaches. I
was just trying to stay alive.
I went back and re-read the section in Gerry Cunningham's boating guide book. He mentions it is notoriously bad there, but didn't say it in a way
that set off any alarm bells the first time I read it. He said that in places it goes from shore to super deep in less than a mile and the conditions
of the channel make it particularly snotty.
After that ride I bought a life raft. 
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | One time I took my boat from BoLA to Santa Rosalia, passing right by the No Wimps area.
It was flat as could be until we rounded the point at San Francisquito, when all hell broke lose. We were in 8 foot wind waves. Roughest conditions
I've been in ever. Continued to be bad until about 20 miles North of Santa Rosalia. We didn't have a chance to stop and see the No Wimp beaches. I
was just trying to stay alive.
I went back and re-read the section in Gerry Cunningham's boating guide book. He mentions it is notoriously bad there, but didn't say it in a way
that set off any alarm bells the first time I read it. He said that in places it goes from shore to super deep in less than a mile and the conditions
of the channel make it particularly snotty.
After that ride I bought a life raft.
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Consag on his explorations north in the 1700's encountered the same thing.
Nasty!
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Well I did some more digging and Google Earth shows a very definitive path from El Gato out a valley and over a ridge to Angostura then down more
valleys to San Casimiro. Most of it looks like a double track except for the steep switchbacks just before dropping into Angostura.
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| Quote: Originally posted by DizzyNick | | Well I did some more digging and Google Earth shows a very definitive path from El Gato out a valley and over a ridge to Angostura then down more
valleys to San Casimiro. Most of it looks like a double track except for the steep switchbacks just before dropping into Angostura.
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Awesome. Can you drop some way points? The crew will help you further.
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Sorry, tried to post an image from Google Earth but it wasn't working.
Here's a poorly drawn gpx file I made on my phone
Attachment: El Gato Out.gpx (2kB)
This file has been downloaded 139 times
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| Quote: Originally posted by DizzyNick | Sorry, tried to post an image from Google Earth but it wasn't working.
Here's a poorly drawn gpx file I made on my phone |
Nice.
What do you think Harald?
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Well I did some more digging and Google Earth shows a very definitive path from El Gato out a valley and over a ridge to Angostura then down more
valleys to San Casimiro. Most of it looks like a double track except for the steep switchbacks just before dropping into Angostura.
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| Quote: Originally posted by DizzyNick | | Well I did some more digging and Google Earth shows a very definitive path from El Gato out a valley and over a ridge to Angostura then down more
valleys to San Casimiro. Most of it looks like a double track except for the steep switchbacks just before dropping into Angostura.
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what you found is an old El Boleo dozer track
hasn't been maintained the last 70 years
2 steep passes (300 ft and 600 ft)
would love to see someone ride it
Cuesta Blanca, the 300 ft, below
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What is the approx. GPS of this spot in your photo, Harold, and what is that straight line against the background moutains, above and just left of the
vaquero? Thank you!!
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I don't know what that is in the background
Crosby has taken pictures in that spot as well - but I could not find it
27.816887°, -112.967668°
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This is the path I mentioned above. Sorry if it came out wrong but I can't find the instructions on how to post with postimages that Blanca sent me.
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Change the first "img" to "img=800x".
That will size the photo properly.
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Thanks JZ
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I think 27 is El Gato
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you can drive up to Rancho Las Parras (Las Juntas) from the west
and up to point #28 on you map from the east
the 16 miles in between are mostly bushwhacking
would be an epic first time drive
it'll make No Wimps look like a freeway drive.
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | I don't know what that is in the background
Crosby has taken pictures in that spot as well - but I could not find it
27.816887°, -112.967668°
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Mostly curious why you called it a Boleo tractor track.
This is on one of the El Camino Real routes between San Ignacio and Santa Gertrudis. In your photo, the trail is not level. Possibly from the fill
dirt all washed away. Wouldn't a dozer scrape to make a level road. The width looks more like the ECR width than an auto road...?
Thanks for answering my curiosity.
I wrote an article about the Cuestas of El Caminio Real, a few years back:
https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/cuestas_...
In it, is this:
A cuesta culebreada (switchback grade) as Harry Crosby called it, is between Arroyo el Infierno and Santa Marta, located at 27⁰29.800’,
-112⁰55.830’ (2,600’). Cuesta de Tagualila at 27⁰49.777’, -113⁰01.300’ (1,840’) is where the Camino Real leaves the San Gregorio Plain
and Crosby noted that here the old road is very deeply built with loose rock as much as five feet high on each side. Near the bottom of this grade,
another branch of the Camino Real is seen as it climbs a short, steep grade. The cut trail is colored white compared to the dark volcanic surface
rock. The top of this “Cuesta Blanca” is the small lakebed, Laguna la Tahualina. Both branches come together again several
miles to the northwest.
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| Quote: Originally posted by DizzyNick | Sorry, tried to post an image from Google Earth but it wasn't working.
Here's a poorly drawn gpx file I made on my phone |
Dizzy
no content on your GPX file
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