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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 09:09 AM


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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 09:21 AM


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Sorry but that is part of the problem, I have no court case against me, every one is already closed in may favor, no court order exist asgainst me or even a court case open: that is why they are acting with abuse of power, because the legal system ruled against them.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 09:51 AM


Sr. Munoz,

I think you have made my point to this board as to why we have not returned.

You have added a lot of information to my post that I did not state. I need to revise my statement as to our entry date it was 1992. I have reviewed our documents and that is when we 1st signed our lease.

Yes you did ask us to let you use our home for your investigation, and we were uncomfortable doing this. You then accused us of siding with Mark & Olivia, as you do very quickly with anyone who disagrees with you. Then you told us we were not welcome back. I was also informed that you had entered our home anyway.

I want to say that we were working at that time and we had other financial responsibilities and not able to be at the beach back then. We are not retired as was the case of the homeowners that were there then.

Your ? as to why we were afraid. Well, I think that was 2005 and what has changed since then?

Homes robbed, accusations, army, navy, federal police, local police and armed men with guns.

Thanks for that picture of PARADISE!!!
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 10:20 AM


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I can say you are one of the most respected Nomads.

Since you always tell what you think and have no sides, I respect and admire your impartial posture and your comments for me mean, that people have the wrong idea.

The road was open, but then Olivia started to use that not legally obligated consent to robe and destroy my property.
The hotel boat is gone, all my security equipment was robbed by Mark, My manager belongings, personal generator and even family photos stolen by Olivia who even had the cynicism to use her cloths in Mulege and make fun of her.

We are dealing with cynic criminals; I cannot keep fighting them with one arm tied on my back and only with a law book against hardened criminals.

As many of you know, we have a drug unloading problem in Olivias restaurant El Zargazo and armed people, invade the beach from time to time and we have always had legal weapons on the hands of my security people, guns with Army permits, obtained legally and for the purpose of protecting my employees and guests.

Olivia on the other side, unload drugs every 20 days with armed crooks during the night while those illegal activities have been witnessed by Navy intelligence and Federal police intelligence with no apparent results to this day. If you believed the press when they attacked me, you must know it now that they are uncovering Olivia’s ties to Organized crime; You can check Mexico’s national news and you will find that every federal agent know of her activities since years ago and she is well known as La Vaquera, a member of the Pacific cartel.

She personally, that day, fired a chemical weapon against my security people who caught her during the night on the hotel grounds carrying hotel property together with Nark< she ran to the bridge firing the illegal pepper spray to avoid being caught with the stolen property and while being attacked with the chemical weapon, my people fired to the sky, and restrain was well exercised or Olivia would not be here today among the living. They exercised proportional force and even less than proportional, because my guards suffered physical harm while Olivia was only grabbed and she jumped to the water to escape being caught in the act and armed with illegal weapons.

My people will return today to the hotel and I am no longer asking them to use less than proportional force against Olivia, from this day I will order the strict exercise of proportional force and full protection of my property, while forbidding them the use or presence on any part of my property and we will do it using the full force of the law, absolutely no concessions and that mean, they will no longer be allowed to even cross my property.
They must now remember that people during the night do not know one weapon from another and if they are caught again in my property, they will be detained as the convicted criminals they are and using all the legal and necessary force to catch a criminal during the act.
They have legal and clear ways to go to the road without crossing my property, crossing my property is the most convenient for them, but not the only way, so from now on, she will have to go to the road in the way she can, not the most convenient to her.

I do not have to concede any but any convenience way for crooks and I think I took a long time to reach this position that is completely legal and according to the actual situation, on the light of her attacks on the persons who allow her convenient ways to operate an illegal business with the cover of a legal restaurant that after all, is not that legal because she was caught on the act of selling protected species as soap.

I tried to act beyond civilized people, but against crooks like Olivia and Nark, you have to act with the full force allowed by the law and this is what start today, because of the unprovoked recent attacks perpetrated by her, and helped this time by organized criminal public officials.

This will certainly not end when my people is freed today as promised, we will go all the way until the public officials are disallowed to act as public official and go to jail and I mean the North zone district attorney . HUGO GALINDO CAMACHO and the Mulege District attorney ALOY AGUIAR YEE who is even trying to extort money from me to do what he is obligated by law.

We cannot allow public officials to act in an open and cynic support of organized criminals like Olivia and Nark or we will end living on the jungle.
My next actions will be to actualize my already existent denounce against those public officials before the Federal Police and Public officials supervision office while at the same time press hard the Estate district attorney to prosecute Olivia for all her crimes and I will not stop this time to do civilized gestures or political concessions, this time justice will be served to the end.
On the property, the guns are being returned to my security people and will be used according to the law to protect my property in full, sorry but the velvet gloves are off, now only the steel fist of the legal ways remain.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 10:21 AM


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Originally posted by XPBRes Yes you did ask us to let you use our home for your (drug running) investigation, and we were uncomfortable doing this.


I can understand not wanting to be part of an undercover drug operation. XPBres posted earlier the residents wondered out loud for years where the money was coming from. So it would seem XPBres had few doubts the drug-running charges could be true, he just did not want to be part of the investigation. He also bailed out very fast, so he didn't want to be around when it went down for some reason.

I do wonder what the next steps are towards resolution. It's still clear as mud to me, but eventually the water will clear.

[Edited on 2-17-2012 by Woooosh]




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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 10:24 AM


How do you know they were't just uncomfortable with strangers in their house, period ?
You assume to much - and all siding with Ramuna these days.

I don't claim any opinion about their situation but I can recognize an uncultured bully when I see one.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 10:28 AM


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How do you know they were't just uncomfortable with strangers in their house, period ?
You assume to much - and all siding with Ramuna these days.

I don't claim any opinion about their situation but I can recognize an uncultured bully when I see one.

I don't know what they were thinking, I only note their actions. That is not an assumption, it is an observation based on their statements.




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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 10:28 AM


1. Do we really think that if Mike and Marc and Olivia had been "known" drug runners for all these years, they would not have been caught yet ?

2. Do we really think that if Ramuna owned the property, with all his power and connections, he would not have possession by now ?

Just askin' ....
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 10:32 AM


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I don't know what they were thinking, I only note their actions. That is not an assumption, it is an observation based on their statements.


No, they said they were uncomfortable with these guys staying in their house.

They did not say that they had any knowledge of any drug running by anyone.

You added that part yourself; you made an assumption.
Wherein did you "observe" anything else ?

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[Edited on 2-17-2012 by Diver]
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 10:51 AM


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I don't know what they were thinking, I only note their actions. That is not an assumption, it is an observation based on their statements.


No, they said they were uncomfortable with these guys staying in their house.

They did not say that they had any knowledge of any drug running by anyone.

You added that part yourself; you made an assumption.
Wherein did you "observe" anything else ?

[Edited on 2-17-2012 by Diver]


Go back and read the posts carefully Diver. XPBres said the PB residents wondered out loud for years where all the money was coming from, not me. Money falling from the sky perhaps? They suspected it and said so. It looks like the place cleared out when the drug investigation was about to come down.

Raphael says the concesion Olivia had was 3000M2 with a restaurant on it. A for-profit concession (enterprise) is 30 pesos per m2 per month (not per year). So that would be 9000 pesos per month for the past six years- a total of 648,000 pesos or about $49,000 USD. You think the payments are current and that concession still valid?

I don't know who is right or wrong here. I do know Raphael helped us with legal advice for our concession when we were in the right. It does not mean he is right this time, but I'm not going to throw him under the bus while it is him that is posting all the documents to defend his position.

So Diver, Where did the money come from?




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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 11:03 AM


Now that you take the issue of the former tenats.

They started as tenants when Olivia was acting as the hotel employee and Roberto Melony help.
She being left alone by Roberto, abused as always her position and using money from the hotel, paid the Federal Zone concession and put it on her personal name and that is called a fraud.

Then she and her husband Michael George, started of offer land to Americans like Ted Clinite, Stan Valentine, Mr. and Mrs. Christ and others.

She then made a contract with the Ejido La Purisima, who rented her part of the ejido, starting on the Km. 94.5 while my property end exactly there and while the Hotel is located on Km. 93.8, south of that border line and this is a fact accepted even by the Ejido La Purisima.

She proceeded to offer my property as part of the Ejido Property rented by her, lying to the Americans.
Stan Valentine put up $250,000 dollars to build his house and the restaurant never knowing that Olivias was lying to him about not being the owner of the land she was offering him, using as crime tool the Ejido contract.

As you see, she was perpetrating a fraud against Americans.

Later with their money, she bought boats and even planes and started with her husband Michael George to bring hoars and drugs from Sinaloa. Those were the golden years.

Of course the business boomed and her expectations also, now she considered the idea to steal the land and become land owner.

The Americans witnessed all this illegal actions and some were part of it if not partners.

When Roberto told me was no longer able to pay me his rent and returned the building to me, I returned to Buenaventura and found Olivia in her own business and I refused to participate on her business, stopping her and then she started her attacks.

Of course Roberto was a smart guy and made her sign before a Public notary a letter saying she was not the owner of any part of the hotel or grounds.

That suspected partnership by some of the former tenants was evident, too much money was owned by Olivia to them to be part of any rent agreement.

When I arrived, Olivia was trying to extort money from all of them and trying to get their houses not respecting the verbal agreements among them and they learned that she gave them the wrong land, part of a private property, not ejido land, knew that because they checked all my documents and property titles themselves and through their attorneys.

In other words, I saved them from Olivias fraud and they started to pay me rent, all of them.

Mr. and Mrs. Christ had also given big amounts of money to Michel Gerorge and Olivia to build a house that never came to being, they went to court and showed the fraud committed by Olivia, obtained a ruling to recover their money and demonstrated Olivias fraud, the ruling came in to force but was never enforced by the public officials, allowing Olivia her first fraud with impunity.

She of course liked it and started her attacks on me and my property to try to grab my property and she has been doing it since that day.

The last American Mr. Thad went away when he knew the Federal Police was looking for Olivia's American partners, while Ted Clinite went away without explanation when the police asked to use his house as a cover operation point.

Mr. Stan Valentine died there, at his house and never recovered a penny from Olivia and telling every people who wanted to know, that he had bought even the pool table on Olivia’s restaurant. To make a case worst, when he died, her partner stole his money and left the hotel personal with the job of finding a burial place, carrying him on the back of the hotel pick up for 2 days until we were allowed to bury him for free because his family didn’t want to pay for his burial: latter they sent some money to make a provisional burial and never wanted to make a decent burial place for him, telling me to allow him to be sent to the common burial, something I didn’t allow and he is today buried in the Mulege cemetery in his personal burial place.
Now, it would be interesting to allow them to fill the lines between mine.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 11:18 AM


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So Diver, Where did the money come from?


and where does rafael's money come from? how does he pay his hotel "employees" when hotel apppears to be closed or at least has no customers? where did money come from to hire the hotel staff arrested last week? who bought the arms/ammo? where did money come from?

it is silly for people to assume that every idle person is a drug smuggler. if that was the case, it would appear that the majority of nomads living baja are smugglers

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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 11:22 AM


Jeeeezo....this thread has morphed into the "imaginations gone berserk" mode. It needs to be shot and cremated.
Be merciful....do the right thing. :cool:
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Jeeeezo....this thread has morphed into the "imaginations gone berserk" mode. It needs to be shot and cremated.
Be merciful....do the right thing. :cool:


story kind of reminds me of the old "dukes of hazard" show, except no one in this baja drama is photogenic.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 11:50 AM


Used to watch them from my porch ... diving for coke and smack which was being moved up the coast for its ultimate jumping off point .. the border ..

That was in the day light, in the evening, the Coyotes started pushing people out of van's into pangas .. also headed north ...

Don't know about "this" location ..... but, there are a few around... :):)

The guys that walked our compound ... carried rifles and pistols ... as did the Military who used to spend some time wandering around, usually around 12-14 guy's with weapons and a humvee up the hill with a 50 cal ... two busts in one year for pot, around three tons, plus couple of pangas that were stopped before they got off... one bunch ended up on South Coronado Island ... afoot

Interesting part of the economy ... which many live in or very near by ... daily




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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 12:08 PM


I know that Mark feels like his thread has been derailed. He made some statements about us and I think some are valid. The one that really hurt is that we can have our half-finished home back if pay our back rent. Below are pictures of our home 1992 and then 2001. Anyone that has had palapa style home on the beach would have to agree that a 3bedroom 3 bath 2000 sq ft house is not bad. Do I think my home is a work of art or complete, hell no. We thought we had a lot more years ahead to complete the interior. We looked forward to every visit and a new project completed.

Whoooosh and Diver,
We did wonder about money and what it takes to keep a beach community thriving. Mike ran generators 12 hrs a day or more. That alone was a good chunk of change. In his defense the Italians were helping and of course we contributed. The purchase of new lots generated some money. Since Mike has left and taken most that with him, how is the beach for the last 10 years been supporting itself. My ? was to say Hamburgers & Beer just don’t seem to generate that kind of money.

Most of all I hope all can see why this situation is so hard to see clearly as to sides, winners, owners and victims. We all participated in this mess and if anything is clear there are no winners!!!!!!!!

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Here is 1992 on of happiest memories, there were only 2 homes on north side of the beach.

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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 12:26 PM


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Jeeeezo....this thread has morphed into the "imaginations gone berserk" mode. It needs to be shot and cremated.
Be merciful....do the right thing. :cool:

we haven't even gotten to the Turtle Soup again yet Dennis.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 12:34 PM


Mr Munoz,

Good for you. I hope you put all those crooks both public officials and criminals in jail. I've wanted to have a retirement staging area in Mulege/BOC for the past 25 years. I'm a simple fisherman who loves the type of fishing there, the seclusion and weather. But for the past ten years or so my interest has waned due to the every increasing crime that the public officials allow to happen or are a part of. My good friend Greg lost his place in Coyote a few years back which Pompano is aware of. This board has been covering up these events for their own personal reasons. I do not care for any of them due to their hidden agendas (home sales, businesses, bed & breakfast, etc). They do not want bad news at our expense.

I use this board to gather info to help me plan my retirement. I'm now retired and hoping to once again visit mexico and enjoy the fishing environment I once enjoyed for over 20 years. I've saved quite a bit after 40 years of fulltime employment and would love to spend it in Mulege.

So you have my congratulations for trying to clean up the area with your gloves off. You are making Mexico a better place for the silent majority not the twisted ones with a hidden or criminal agendas. When the smoke clears I'll be one of your first paying customers of your hotel in Buenaventure.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 12:51 PM


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