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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 01:15 PM


shees! I feel like I'm on a Sit 'n Spin.



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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 01:28 PM


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Mr Munoz,

Good for you. I hope you put all those crooks both public officials and criminals in jail. I've wanted to have a retirement staging area in Mulege/BOC for the past 25 years. I'm a simple fisherman who loves the type of fishing there, the seclusion and weather. But for the past ten years or so my interest has waned due to the every increasing crime that the public officials allow to happen or are a part of. My good friend Greg lost his place in Coyote a few years back which Pompano is aware of. This board has been covering up these events for their own personal reasons. I do not care for any of them due to their hidden agendas (home sales, businesses, bed & breakfast, etc). They do not want bad news at our expense.

I use this board to gather info to help me plan my retirement. I'm now retired and hoping to once again visit mexico and enjoy the fishing environment I once enjoyed for over 20 years. I've saved quite a bit after 40 years of fulltime employment and would love to spend it in Mulege.

So you have my congratulations for trying to clean up the area with your gloves off. You are making Mexico a better place for the silent majority not the twisted ones with a hidden or criminal agendas. When the smoke clears I'll be one of your first paying customers of your hotel in Buenaventure.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 02:05 PM


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Mr Munoz,

Good for you....


So you have my congratulations for trying to clean up the area with your gloves off. You are making Mexico a better place for the silent majority not the twisted ones with a hidden or criminal agendas. When the smoke clears I'll be one of your first paying customers of your hotel in Buenaventure.
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i can't determine if your post was sarcasm or serious :?::?:
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 02:52 PM


Love it Natalie Ann!

There's really no way for anyone here to make sense out of this topic. He said....she said...legals said...Govt said.......all on hearsay.

Once pass the "violent stand off" call for help..... of the postings ......this post has become a Off Topic material.


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shees! I feel like I'm on a Sit 'n Spin.



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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 03:07 PM


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Originally posted by Lobsterman
Mr Munoz,

Good for you....


So you have my congratulations for trying to clean up the area with your gloves off. You are making Mexico a better place for the silent majority not the twisted ones with a hidden or criminal agendas. When the smoke clears I'll be one of your first paying customers of your hotel in Buenaventure.
Dennis


i can't determine if your post was sarcasm or serious :?::?:


Judging by the author it's sarcasm. A fake end around.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 03:36 PM


Ya mean it's changed ....



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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 03:40 PM


From a happier day (my last time in Mexico).

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/baja-mexico-fishing-reports...
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 03:46 PM


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From a happier day (my last time in Mexico).

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/baja-mexico-fishing-reports...


Thanks, Big D.....great foto report...as it were..was...something like that.



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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 03:58 PM


XPBRes, I'm so sorry for your loss. We met a while before the overhead picture was taken. You may have seen us in San Nicolas' and invited us to stop. I'll never forget because I don't remember anyone ever enjoying my smoked yellowtail as much as you guys!

Maybe I'm lucky that our very similar (only one lease) situation ended up being stolen by Julio, a storm. It's easier to move on, I think, when there is no point in laying awake imagining retribution. I can't imagine I would be above it, and I would disrespect myself for it. Your pain must be very deep. I hope you heal fast.




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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 04:15 PM


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I was just wondering if there was clarification to a post dated 4/15/2009 at 10:29PM in the Turtle Soup story (Page 3) in which Ramuma53 denied being Senor Rafael Munoz. Ramuma53 called himself Eduardo Villa Arellano.


By page 10 (on 4-18-2009), ramuma53 postings stopped being written in mixed 1st-person and 3rd-person when referring to Rafael... and it was communicated that the individual now posting was Rafael.

All the postings through that point (in that particular thread) by that user were all from the same Tijuana Cablemas account though - none was through a satellite internet provider - with one exception that was posted through a Telcel connection... in which the following was written:

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What you know, is where an Internet protocol (IP) is assigned, and it is assigned where it enter the Physical Internet network, when it is dynamic and uploaded to a satellite connection, It goes up the satellite stream in pockets and then down at the Internet Service Provider (ISP) where it is assigned the Dynamic IP, where it enters the physical network; and since my Satellite Service Provider for Buenaventura Hotel is in Tijuana, it is not bizarre you find that. Also, you will find that, if you locate the dynamic IP for my personal computer which is where I am sending this comment from, it will always be in Tijuana. I have a contract for wireless broadband connection with Telcel in Tijuana and that means, that from any place in continental America, it goes through the 3G Cellular networks, all the way to Tijuana and then it enters there to the physical Internet network. So, I may be in any place in the world and as long as I use that connection, the dynamic IP is going to be a Tijuana assigned;


The above statements are inconsistent with this site's activity records however.





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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 04:36 PM


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Quote:
Originally posted by angels4
I was just wondering if there was clarification to a post dated 4/15/2009 at 10:29PM in the Turtle Soup story (Page 3) in which Ramuma53 denied being Senor Rafael Munoz. Ramuma53 called himself Eduardo Villa Arellano.


By page 10 (on 4-18-2009), ramuma53 postings stopped being writing in mixed 1st-person and 3rd-person when referring to Rafael... and it was communicated that the individual now posting was Rafael.

All the postings through that point (in that particular thread) by that user were all from the same Tijuana Cablemas account though - none was through a satellite internet provider - with one exception that was posted through a Telcel connection... in which the following was written:

Quote:
Originally posted by ramuma53

What you know, is where an Internet protocol (IP) is assigned, and it is assigned where it enter the Physical Internet network, when it is dynamic and uploaded to a satellite connection, It goes up the satellite stream in pockets and then down at the Internet Service Provider (ISP) where it is assigned the Dynamic IP, where it enters the physical network; and since my Satellite Service Provider for Buenaventura Hotel is in Tijuana, it is not bizarre you find that. Also, you will find that, if you locate the dynamic IP for my personal computer which is where I am sending this comment from, it will always be in Tijuana. I have a contract for wireless broadband connection with Telcel in Tijuana and that means, that from any place in continental America, it goes through the 3G Cellular networks, all the way to Tijuana and then it enters there to the physical Internet network. So, I may be in any place in the world and as long as I use that connection, the dynamic IP is going to be a Tijuana assigned;


The above statements are inconsistent with this site's activity records however.


Thank you BajaNomad. I was wondering who was who or if the two morphed into one person :?: I would say it adds to the "credibility" factor of the user. My head is still spinning as to who is telling the truth in this tangled up story. :rolleyes: But, I wish them all a peaceful resolution. You all have a good weekend :saint:
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 09:57 PM


vgabndo,

We remember you and thank you for your sentiment, our wakeless nights are mostly past and are in love with are new home and life.

Baja will always be our 1st love and we will hold on to all the great people and memories.
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[*] posted on 2-17-2012 at 10:26 PM


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vgabndo,

We remember you and thank you for your sentiment, our wakeless nights are mostly past and are in love with are new home and life.

Baja will always be our 1st love and we will hold on to all the great people and memories.


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[*] posted on 2-18-2012 at 11:27 AM


I will address these statements by Munoz that we are a associated with drugs.

Olivia and I do not bring in any drugs of any kind. We are not associated with ANY criminal cartels. We just operate a beach restaurant and offering services to Mexican's, and foreign tourists. We have a beautiful place with a fantastic view. We cater to families, tourists and a few locals who are usually coming or going to Loreto. It is totally ridiculous that we are in any way associated with illegal drugs. Munoz lies about us unloading or using any drugs. Please do not believe a word of what Munoz says. He has a court forum to state his case.

We have had many visits from the military here over the last couple of years. It is usually late at night when they arrive. My dogs awake us when people come, like good dogs should. When I get up there are military, usually Marines checking our place out. This has happened so many times I've lost count. Usually they will say they are here because of a anonymous phone call. SOMEONE is making anonymous phone calls to the military claiming we are unloading drugs. I've gotten so used to it that we now ask if they are here because of a anonymous phone call. It makes us sad to have to get up and see these fine young men being used like this. It is also embarrasing to campers and other tourists on the beach. There should be some kind of check system of who the anonymous callers are because the system can be abused and innocent persons can be set up by unscrupulous enemies. I would wish that the military and judges could take this fact in consideration when deciding ones guilt or innocence.

Other post here are "HOW DO THEY DO IT" insinuating that we do illegal drug business. It is really none of your business and you should be ashamed to make such a post towards Olivia and me. But I will say this. We work hard between the two of us and one employee(Bertha). All of the tips go to Bertha to help her raise her family. We make all of our tax and fee payments on time. We have sold a couple of parcels of land over the years and this has helped us stay in business. Our diesel generators are not used any more. We use small generators and new appliances to make things work at a considerable savings in fuel costs. Our cars and trucks are old but I take care of them and we keep plowing ahead. So when any doubters of how we manage, pass by Buenaventura please understand that we have this place because of hard work and by using our savings. We are simple people that enjoy others and feel proud of where we live and we like to see others enjoy this place in the Baja. We are trying the best we can to keep Buenaventura falling into the hands of the likes of Munoz.

We need your business and support to finish. Please if you have the time visit our little place. This is all we ask!

Sincerely,
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[*] posted on 2-18-2012 at 11:41 AM
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HOLA, as alway's I'm late to the storey,,but I can say as a boater and baja nomad,,why,would any one run (boat) all the way accross the bay to drop off drug,s....makes no sense at all,,sorry,, I would not even consider such a b.s. proposail..my 2 centovo's,,,, K & T :cool:
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[*] posted on 2-18-2012 at 12:15 PM


Anyone who thinks that the drug runners are going to run half way down the bay and drop off drugs in a tourist area, right by the highway, is already snorting his own bathwater. It is pretty amazing that Munoz has tried the drug thing by implication, planting turtle soup in their restaurant, as well as posting all of the stupid statements in each lawsuit that is filed is a person who has slipped to the bottom of the food chain to try to claim property he has some attachment to.

I know of a person who was nailed for having some turtle meat and he lost everything because it was a clear cut case of possession. In the Buenaventura Turtle Soup Incident, it was obviously clear that there was a plant.

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[*] posted on 2-18-2012 at 01:08 PM


IF Mr Munos is correct in the following:
1. Olivia et al. are/were involved with the cartels.
2. The beach was used as an off-loading spot.
3. Mr Munos has been successful in getting this activity stopped.

THEN if follows that Mr Munos would no longer be alive.
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[*] posted on 2-18-2012 at 01:13 PM


Dead me tell no lies ?? :lol:
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[*] posted on 2-18-2012 at 01:16 PM


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IF Mr Munos is correct in the following:
1. Olivia et al. are/were involved with the cartels.
2. The beach was used as an off-loading spot.
3. Mr Munos has been successful in getting this activity stopped.

THEN if follows that Mr Munos would no longer be alive.


Good one Santiago. The Socratic investigation, a favotire.

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[*] posted on 2-18-2012 at 01:17 PM


His arguments defy logic, which is ironic, considering he claims to be a lawyer. I would be interested to know if he is a member of any Mexican Bar Association. I doubt it, give his blatant defiance of any code of ethics...
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