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Quote: Originally posted by cupcake  | John, Do you wear snake gaiters and full leather (snake) trail shoes on your dessert treks? If yes, can you recommend a source for these?
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No, I don't.
I know they are popular with many hikers, though. Kevin and Genevieve do, and watch the videos of Cosby trips, he does also...
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| Quote: Originally posted by cupcake |
I was able to find and view a good interactive topo map that covers the entire peninsula. I could zoom in, which would add contour lines (changing the
elevation intervals). Everything seemed to work properly, but I couldn't see how to download a given screen as a PDF. Perhaps this is not possible and
the maps are not equiped with this option.
I am old school; I have never owned a tablet, a mobile phone. The maps I take on the trail are the paper type, so I was hoping to download and print
some of those maps from your website.
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Have you checked the caltopo.com link? That has the IEGI topo maps and allows customizing.
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I saw that yesterday, but just had another look, at your prompting, and was able to get an excellent PDF of the Mission San Borja area downloaded as a
PDF. The PDF of the map area I selected has some information added at the bottom, it looks like the program does this automatically, and it includes
distances in miles and km, as well as magnetic and true north. I am not yet certain of this, but it looks like the program calibrates this as you zoom
in or zoom out, giving an accurate reading of distances automatically for the map scale selected. This is a wonderful feature. The map PDF looks to be
a good resolution for printing a sharp usable hard copy. I can't attempt this from the computer I am presently using, but will do so later. Thanks
much for the good direction on this.
Using printed maps from this program, in conjunction with the ECR marked trail on the Baja Atlas, looks like a person might safely attempt a section
of the ECR with this data. Many other variables to be sure, like fences sprouting up across the ECR, etc.
Edit: Using David's ECR section descriptions on his Viva Baja website, and the Caltopo website, it was possible to download individual topo map PDF
sheets for the entire San Borja to Santa Gertrudis ECR route, then use a free online combiner to make a single PDF (40 sheets at small scale and high
resolution).
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy | | Quote: Originally posted by cupcake | John, Do you wear snake gaiters and full leather (snake) trail shoes on your dessert treks? If yes, can you recommend a source for these?
[Edited on 10-4-2024 by cupcake] |
No, I don't.
I know they are popular with many hikers, though. Kevin and Genevieve do, and watch the videos of Cosby trips, he does also...
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My hiking wear for my local San Gabriels (even when traveling cross country) consists of lycra type tights and Merrell Moab trail shoes; both items I
imagine a snake could really sink its fangs into!
Looking forward to seeing the maps from your trip, please do post them.
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| Quote: Originally posted by cupcake |
My hiking wear for my local San Gabriels (even when traveling cross country) consists of lycra type tights and Merrell Moab trail shoes; both items I
imagine a snake could really sink its fangs into!
Looking forward to seeing the maps from your trip, please do post them.
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I started this hike with a brand new pair of Merrell hiking shoes and 1 came apart on me, kinda sucks, trusted the Merrell name and reputation.
While I am kinda careful and watch where I am walking, snakes do not bother me too much it would suck to get bitten.
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2024 ECR HIKE KML post
Here is a screen shop of my path it goes Green(DAY 1), Yellow, Blue, White and DAY 5 is Red
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy | | Quote: Originally posted by cupcake |
My hiking wear for my local San Gabriels (even when traveling cross country) consists of lycra type tights and Merrell Moab trail shoes; both items I
imagine a snake could really sink its fangs into!
Looking forward to seeing the maps from your trip, please do post them.
[Edited on 10-5-2024 by cupcake] |
I started this hike with a brand new pair of Merrell hiking shoes and 1 came apart on me, kinda sucks, trusted the Merrell name and reputation.
While I am kinda careful and watch where I am walking, snakes do not bother me too much it would suck to get bitten. |
Thanks for the Google Earth image with the superimposed trek days ^^
When I first started hiking in my Merrell Moabs, there quickly became some seperation of the rand from the toe point at the front of the shoes. I
thought they were going to fall apart quickly on me, but that was three or so years ago and they have stayed the same at that point since then. Now,
they are nearing the end of their life, getting worn out.
I've never done a multi day trek in the dessert. This presents a different set of risks and challenges! By yourself, with no other trail traffic, gear
failures and/or injuries could easily turn life threatening. Knowing where the water sources are on the route and bail-out points (if there are any)
seems to be mandatory.
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| Quote: Originally posted by cupcake | https://filebin.net/5d3tohtydv79do3b
John, The above link is to a free online file sharing website. From that webpage, you can download a 23mb PDF I made of 40 topo map sheets for the San
Borja to Santa Gertrudis section of the ECR. I don't know if this is anything you can use for the San Sebastian to San Borja section of the ECR that
you might do in the future. The file stays available for 6 days (so the website claims), then I will delete this post.
The ECR is not marked on these map sheets, but I believe these are the sheets that cover the trail.
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Well done, you!
Here is the northernmost map you made:
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Thanks David. It would not have happened without you and your website.
Sometimes, such a small scale topo can be better with a larger scale overview, so I made a map PDF covering the same section, but in 8 map sheets
instead of 40. The link for this is here:
https://filebin.net/9j430qu56gifbtp1
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Awesome... and after watching Star Trek (the movie with Chris Pine), I realized my earlier 'cupcake' reference (to Guardians of the Galaxy) was
wrong... It was in Star Trek, bar fight scene.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Awesome... and after watching Star Trek (the movie with Chris Pine), I realized my earlier 'cupcake' reference (to Guardians of the Galaxy) was
wrong... It was in Star Trek, bar fight scene. |
The post of Baja Bucko on this thread (excerpt below) has the vaquero / mule option looking like a good idea for this old cupcake:
https://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=37047
"I think I've ridden (mules) and a little bit backpacking- (that when I was a hippie in 1972) abt 90% of ECR from El Rosario to Loreto. Yes there are
places where modern roads overlay places but for the most part this "road" was never intended for wheels and by 1900 the "main" path of travel was
leaving El Camino Real for easier routes. There is the absolutely fascinating feeling to struggle and climb ( and pray that the mule stays upright!!!)
and mule feet picking back and forth up and down cuestas only to find at the top of a mesa a perfectly-cleared rock-lined "road" I could drive a
minivan on-for a 100 feet or so and then wham! back to the miles of worse-than-a-goat-trail to head down incredible rocky steep (reminiscing El
Paraiso!!) and feel so gleeful that I lived to tell the tale! After every trip even wearing "armor" I still have spines popping out of me for months.
I have recvd many emails from people just thinking that hay-let's just backpack it and they have no clue that you need a local vaquero (he always
knows when & where the water is this year) and when the trail becomes split in several same but not directions due to different uses at different
times over the past 300 years-taking the WRONG path can get you dead or found wandering as dehydrated lion bait. Granted GPS has opened up a new world
but its a lot of big country down there and there aren't forest service signs telling you how far it is to the next waterhole or THAT part of the
trail is totally impassable 2 hours from where you are standing. ECR is NOT a park service thing-for the most part it is very wild country with many
parts of the trails rarely seeing anyone except a cowboy every couple of years looking for cows or goats."
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For sure, Baja Bucko knows what she is doing and how to go about it.
There are many ECR routes. Some replaced others and some were parallel used to visit different places between missions.
Most who know about the trail in Baja refer to the one Serra used going to San Diego, which was the one Harry Crosby researched and photographed the
most. His 1977 maps show parallel routes, too. Kevin and his partner Genevieve (CaminoRealBaja.com) also show parallel routes on their map and they
are actually hiking them seeking the correct route. They look for signs that can differentiate between modern cattle or goat trails, Boleo mine roads,
and original Jesuit roads.
It was disappointing when Photobucket ended their free hosting which is why all those maps and satellite images I posted in 2009 have their watermark
on them. I paid for a few years, as did other here, but they changed the deal again. Since then we began using PostImages.org for free photo hosting.
Thank you for you interest and for keeping these discussion active on Nomad!
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| Quote: Originally posted by cupcake | John, Do you wear snake gaiters ... a source for these?
Also, I would like to know what make/model of water filter you carry, and how well you like it.
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Missed that second question, I use a Sawyer Mini Squeeze filter and it does just fine.
It is easy to plug up, but also easy to back flush.
Here are some places I get water from.....
A listed spring, it can be hard to get water from sources like this without getting a bunch of silt.
A stock tank on the trail, this was fairly good tasting water....
This was one of only 4 springs listed in 20 square miles. I spent several hours trying to free them, sinking in mud up to my waist and getting a
terrible sunburn.
This is the water from where the cows were, I took some because I had no choice.
It was in the high 90's that day and I had miles to go to get to the next water source, that was NOT a fun day.
There was a bad drought in Baja in 2022 and several 'waterholes' had dead cows near them and no water.
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John, Thanks for the good recommendation on the water filter and photos that really bring what you have done to life!
I suspect most if not all water filters would plug up in that kind of use.
I have only used a water filter on one trip, in 1998 in South America, when filtering out silt. I remember my filter quickly plugging up. I still have
that filter, though I can't remember the brand, and I suspect after storage for the last quarter century it should just be replaced.
I have, over the years, often used iodine to purify water. This is what I would also do after filtering water in the ECR locations you photographed.
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John, do you ever dig a hole next to a spring or stream to collect water (like a coyote well) rather than use the water that is already exposed and
contaminated?
I am thinking of Naked and Afraid episodes where that is a common practice.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | John, do you ever dig a hole ....and contaminated?
I am thinking of Naked and Afraid episodes where that is a common practice. |
Not really. I will enlarge a hole and allow it to fill sometimes but it is really slow to fill at some of these water spots.
Some of these sources are just seeps where it trickles out. I have spent up to an hour to get a little over a quart of water at times.
First I have to enlarge a hole big enough to use a cup in, then I let it settle out. Then with a small cup I can get 3 or 4 ounces at a time. Then you
wait for it to refill and settle again to get another 3 or 4 ounces.
Perhaps, if it was a low sandy area, I would dig to allow it to fill.
I will probably do another hike up on the Kaiparowits Plateau in Southern Utah in the near future if anyone would like to join me.
Getting sort old to do this stuff by myself, cool ruins and views and no people.....anyone?
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The Kaiparowits Plateau looks like an interesting area. At present, in reading about your trips on the ECR, I am wanting to get down to the mid-Baja
area and see what kind of look I might have. There are a number of ECR threads you have made posts in and I remember one where you showed a photo of
your thermometer reading 29 degrees. I would like to get down there before I have to deal with temps that low! Hopefully, less clothing to carry.
I am thinking the Santa Gertrudis to San Ignacio section might be good for me, as I travel by public transportation. If I start at Santa Gertrudis
(paying to be driven in), then reaching San Ignacio puts me back at Highway 1 and on the bus line.
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