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cupcake
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Unfortunately, so do I.
If the report of ranchers abandoning their ranches is true, to me this would say a lot. I think it would be foolish for me to go on a hike where I
would be counting on water sources at some of these ranches, or even just having the ranches be on my route.
[Edited on 5-30-2025 by cupcake]
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If you are seeing “multiple” reports of ranchers abandoning ranches, may be due to the drought. Last year has been severe drought…
Woke!
Hands off!
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“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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cupcake
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The only online report of this that I have found so far, is the one linked by BajaNomad earlier in this thread:
"Many ranch owners have already abandoned their properties, having been displaced by criminals."
This could be interpreted as the ranches having already been abandoned for some other reason, like drought, but it seems unambiguous as far as
criminals now occupying those ranches.
Earlier this year, John (Fatboy) hiked into the area of an abandoned marijuana farm, not realizing it was there beforehand. Harald posted a satellite
image of the place, and said that John was lucky it had been abandoned. I think hiking into a place like this, or any place occupied by criminals, and
you might be fortunate to survive.
[Edited on 5-30-2025 by cupcake]
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Quote: Originally posted by cupcake  |
Earlier this year, John (Fatboy) hiked into the area of an abandoned marijuana farm, not realizing it was there beforehand. Harald posted a satellite
image of the place, and said that John was lucky it had been abandoned. I think hiking into a place like this, or any place occupied by criminals, and
you might be fortunate to survive. |
Was there a post here on BN about it? I'm wondering if it's the same place I stumbled upon a few years ago (?)
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This post? 2025 El Camino Real Trip (part 1)
In my short Baja adventures, I have come across one active pot farm, and (probably) one inactive one.
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cupcake
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| Quote: Originally posted by geoffff | | Quote: Originally posted by cupcake |
Earlier this year, John (Fatboy) hiked into the area of an abandoned marijuana farm, not realizing it was there beforehand. Harald posted a satellite
image of the place, and said that John was lucky it had been abandoned. I think hiking into a place like this, or any place occupied by criminals, and
you might be fortunate to survive. |
Was there a post here on BN about it? I'm wondering if it's the same place I stumbled upon a few years ago (?) |
https://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=101304
The link above should take you to the thread. You will need to scroll down to see Harald's satellite image of the abandoned pot farm, near the bottom
of the page.
[Edited on 5-31-2025 by cupcake]
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Yes, that's it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | | pacifico - the last year or so of cartel activity is something that was unknown not long ago. Beheadings, kidnappings, mass shootouts, lots of bodies
being dug up, town take-overs. You can't deny that this element may affect your trip in ways you didn't foresee. |
Family, friends, strangers have all advised me to stay away from Baja for the past 60 years. I've never considered TJ safe so I stay out of that
town.
I think tourists, generally, are frightened of situations involving beheadings, kidnappings, etc. Got it. The latest media onslaught is proving the
naysayers right. Baja has its problems. And it can be dangerous.
Short of bad hombres targeting US tourists, I'm not worried about the above. Doesn't concern me to be around shoot outs, either.
Don't plan on driving Mainland any time soon. Don't drive Hgwy 3 at night. Use to stop in Mulege for breakfast now just for gas.
To me, Baja is worth the risk and the drive. I understand fear but think, personally, that's a stupid reason to give up on Baja.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Lee -- Once I was camping outside the small town of Axe east of Merida. I found a smallish abandoned quarry of sorts - I could drive off the main road
and be out of sight, it seemed clean enough, no indication that people regularly had any reason to come there. I observed who was passing on the road,
didn't set up my tent until after dark. By nightfall I was confident I was safe. So I'm in my tent, reading and having a glass of wine when I hear a
large vehicle drive up fast, park and two doors slam. I thought to myself, huh - I'm going to be robbed. Turned out to be two policia who asked me
to tell them what I was doing there - "en Espanol". They told me it was private property, wasn't safe and advised me to go to Izamal and get a hotel.
Which I did and was great. Point is: It happens in an instant - a few seconds - and you're a victim, unprepared for the situation, in spite of your
perceived precautions. Those 3 surfers? I'd still like to do trips, already have an itinerary, but I don't think I want to go by myself. (Not saying
"never").
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I decided to spend the night in my car at the sandy point in El Comitan (west of La Paz) and had a similar visit from the local police.
They didn't tell me I had to leave, but told me (in English) to "Up the window and shut the door". I think he meant "lock", but I got the message.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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