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surabi
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Goat already posted the law- Article 106, which lays out who can temporarily import a vehicle. Nowhere in that law does it say a permanent resident
can, it says those with permanent residency outside of Mexico can- visitors and temporary residents.
Additionally, SAT has always said that permanent residents cannot drive foreign plated vehicles anywhere in Mexico.
Permanent residents on the mainland went through all this back in 2012 when Mexico changed the immigration laws, and those who had to switch from TR
to PR unless they wanted to start from scratch reapplying for TR at a consulate outside the country were told by SAT that they had to remove their
foreign-plated vehicles from Mexico, regardless of of whether they lived in a "free zone".
So go argue with the Mexican tax dept.
Anyway, you don't even care about this issue, you only care about taking any opportunity to negate anything I post, and sling insults.
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Article 106 does NOT state it is illegal for a PR to drive a foreign plated vehicle in the free zones. Mr Solorzano is the ONLY Mexican attorney with
an opinion referenced here. Carry on.
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I think you are just making a connection that doesn't necessarily exist.
Yes, article 106 says RPs cannot temporarily import a car to Mexico (TIP). No one is disputing that. However, what makes you think an RP can't drive a
foreign plated car in the free zone, in which no temporary import is required and foreign plated cars are allowed to circulate freely?
Can't you see how if a TIP isn't required, then it doesn't matter what your immigration status is? Think of it this way, if a TIP isn't required, then
Mexico doesn't consider it as actually importing the vehicle. It doesn't matter if you are a RP, or an FMM holder. No import required. Circulate
freely.
Maybe it can be interpreted both ways, but I tend to side with the interpretation that has been actually happening in Baja. Tens of thousands of RPs
drive foreign plated cars in Baja every single day. There's one unverified instance that popped up on Facebook vs 10,000 daily instances.
"SAT has always said" and "Mexperience says" isn't a reference. That's just your recollection and some anonymous online article.
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surabi
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Well, obviously you are determined not to understand how the law disallows PRs to temporarily import a vehicle, regardless of whether it is designated
a free zone or not.
"SAT has always said" isn't a reference? Say what?
Back in 2012 when lots of foreigners had to switch to PR, whether we could keep and drive a foreign plated vehicle in Mexico was a hot topic of
conversation for at least a year. Hundreds, if not thousands, of PRs, including me, directly asked for clarifications or work-arounds from Aduana,
SAT, and Banjercito, as well as lawyers and facilitators. The answer was always that PRs could not drive foreign plated vehicles at all, anywhere in
Mexico.
Of course, you have every right to believe whatever you want, no matter how erroneous.
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From Gringo Gazette
https://www.facebook.com/reel/25575276365417302/?fs=e&mi...
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surabi
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Get ready for posters here to tell you they don't believe that and it's wrong, according to their "interpretation". 
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Quote: Originally posted by BeachSeeker  | | Maybe it can be interpreted both ways, but I tend to side with the interpretation that has been actually happening in Baja. Tens of thousands of RPs
drive foreign plated cars in Baja every single day. |
Previous lack of enforcement may not predict the future of a changing world… Mexico has been enforcing FMM requirements that many use to safely
ignore. Mexico has last few or more years been enforcing many tax laws, collecting more taxes.
Things change, previous lack of enforcement may not predict future enforcement.
[Edited on 12-14-2025 by mtgoat666]
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Rafael Solorzano's response was once again quoted in the comments to this and as far as I can see he is the ONLY Mexican attorney to opine.
Looks like the free zone is indeed a free zone after all.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Previous lack of enforcement may not predict the future of a changing world… Mexico has been enforcing FMM requirements that many use to safely
ignore. Mexico has last few or more years been enforcing many tax laws, collecting more taxes.
Things change, previous lack of enforcement may not predict future enforcement.
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Agreed. I'd take it a step further and say that enforcement is so situationally dependent that sometimes it doesn't even matter what the law actually
is. Often times, the law is whatever the guy at the border or checkpoint says it is.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Get ready for posters here to tell you they don't believe that and it's wrong, according to their "interpretation". |
You trust the Gringo Gazette?
"I can normally tell how intelligent a man is, by how stupid he thinks I
am."
"...they were careful of their demeanor that they not be thought to have opinions on what they heard for like most men skilled at their work they
were scornful of any least suggestion of knowing anything not learned at first hand."
Cormac McCarthy, All the Pretty Horses
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surabi
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No. I trust what I and hundreds of others were told directly by SAT and Aduana agents who held info meetings in my area about PRs and foreign plated
vehicles back in about 2012 when the immigration laws changed.
But I would assume the Gringo Gazette based that video on source material more reliable than the opinions and interpretations of Baja Nomads or some
Baja lawyer who has a vested interest in getting his name out there to drum up business.
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lencho
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | But I would assume the Gringo Gazette based that video on source material more reliable than...(whatever) |
I've seen nothing over the years to support such an assumption, but each to her own. <shrug>
"I can normally tell how intelligent a man is, by how stupid he thinks I
am."
"...they were careful of their demeanor that they not be thought to have opinions on what they heard for like most men skilled at their work they
were scornful of any least suggestion of knowing anything not learned at first hand."
Cormac McCarthy, All the Pretty Horses
"Be kind, be patient, help others." -- Isabel Allende
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Gringo gazette is probably more reliable source of info than penepoco
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surabi
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Well, I really don't know anything about the Gringo Gazette, I've never read it, so you are right that I shouldn't assume anything about it. But I
imagine one could contact them and ask for the source of their video information if in doubt.
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