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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajamatic
please show me that data Al.
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Actually, I dint doubt that. My point was more that you old guys don't have the best record either. My demo (being over 30) has a much better
history then both of you, and I still have the reflexes to avoid both of you, so I really dint care.
[Edited on 10-12-2006 by Gametic] |
Now you conveniently change the parameters.
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bigzaggin
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Every study...
has a counter-study...every point, a counterpoint. Driving or not, the subtext here is: Who sucks more in Baja - Ubermacho teenage white-t hooligans
in cartoonish 4x4s & wraparound shades OR crotchety 50+ Baja "vets" scowling their way to BOLA at 25mph, mumbling "it's not like it used to be"
all the way down?
Tough question. No easy answer. I suppose that's why I'm happy to be 33...I'm no longer a raging marooon with some invincibility complex and not yet
a bitter curmudgeon b-tching about progress and the destruction of "my" Baja.
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We'll all be elderly drivers if we keep on living. Never been much of a
caravan person. Each to his own!
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bigzaggin
has a counter-study...every point, a counterpoint. Driving or not, the subtext here is: Who sucks more in Baja - Ubermacho teenage white-t hooligans
in cartoonish 4x4s & wraparound shades OR crotchety 50+ Baja "vets" scowling their way to BOLA at 25mph, mumbling "it's not like it used to be"
all the way down?
Tough question. No easy answer. I suppose that's why I'm happy to be 33...I'm no longer a raging marooon with some invincibility complex and not yet
a bitter curmudgeon b-tching about progress and the destruction of "my" Baja. |
I do not agree with some numbers and attitudes, but in general your statement has merit. Putting yourself in the best light is silly though but
usually unavoidable.
Albert G
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THE VERDICT IS IN....
"your statement has merit"
YES! VINDICATED BY AL G!!!!!!!!!
My business is done here.
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Ahhhhh yes---33 years old-----
----not yet a curmudgeon, but no longer a wild and crazy guy. This is the exact age that we have to watch out for------very unpredictable-------never
know what they will do next-----
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interesting enough, the demographic most likely to be drunk while driving. Next time you see us driving slightly faster then the old guys, and ok
with being passed by the young guys, know we are probably tanked.
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajamatic
interesting enough, the demographic most likely to be drunk while driving. Next time you see us driving slightly faster then the old guys, and ok
with being passed by the young guys, know we are probably tanked. |
Although I had a Limit to how drunk, when I look back to my era in that demographic, I was very lucky and it scares the hell out of me now.
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Great thread BTW
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Al
Heres your support:
Nationwide, young drivers (16-20 years-old) make up six percent of the driving
population yet they are involved in nearly twenty percent of all fatal motor vehicle
crashes. “In 2003 alone, young drivers were involved in 8,455 fatal crashes. Tragically,
many of these fatalities and serious injuries could have been prevented,” according to Dr.
Thomas Esposito, Co–Chairperson of END and Director of Loyola University Medical
Center’s Injury Analysis and Prevention Program.
“Youth-related driving fatalities are an epidemic in the United States. Nearly one
out of every five traffic fatalities involves a driver between the age of 16 and 20 years
old. Young drivers, their passengers and passengers in other vehicles are dying
needlessly because many young motorists are not given proper guidance, or when
unsupervised, choose to participate in unsafe driving behavior during their early driving
experience,” he said.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Bajamatic
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Ok. The kids win, you get a close second.
I thought this might help us further asses our individual driving abilities, and wether or not we are hazards on the road. Al, be honest now.
(partial list taken from http://www.la4seniors.com/driving.htm)
"Warning Signs of Unsafe Driving
This Section is Published Through the Courtesy of Vicki L. Schmall, Ph.D.
Behavior that may indicate a person's driving threatens personal safety and that of others includes:
Fails to appreciate the frustration, exasperation, or irritation exhibited by other drivers toward his or her driving.
Gets lost in familiar places.
Drives against traffic, on the wrong side of the road (definite danger).
Has difficulty seeing pedestrians, objects, and other vehicles.
Backs up after missing an exit (definite danger).
Falls asleep while driving or gets drowsy."
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Al G
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Bajamatic...I do believe you have a fixation on people over 50. You really need to get a grip.
Your link goes to a Seniors page for caregivers and families of the elderly. I would say you are despicable, but I understand you are desperate.
If you are under the impression everybody over 50 is elderly,
I am here to tell you that you need to broaden you awareness of your fellow man.
My reaction time is as good as yours and maybe better. I do think they have weaken some since my NASCAR days, but still willing to meet you at Sears
Point, as it is only a small fee to make a couple laps.
Albert G
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I really think it has to do with attitude, Like if you have driven fast, agressive, alert all of your life as you get older your reflexas with reflect
that, I'm sure its that way with me and Al and others. Some of us just do not accept old age!!! When I'm playing games on the comuter my challenge is
not just winning but also playing fast!
Also ex racer but with left and right hand turns yes I know Al Sears Point.
[Edited on 10-12-2006 by comitan]
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
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Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Two elderly women were out driving in a large car --both could barely see over the dashboard. As they were cruising along they came to an
intersection. The stoplight was red but they just went on through. The woman in the passenger seat thought to herself "I must be losin it, I could
have sworn we just went through a red light". After a few more minutes they came to another intersection and the light was red again and again they
went right though. This time the woman in the passenger seat was almost sure that the light had been red but was really concerned that she was losing
it. She was was getting nervous and decided to pay very close attention to the road and the next intersection to see what was going on. At the next
intersection, sure enough, the light was definitely red and they went right through and she turned to the other woman and said, "Mildred! Did you know
we just ran through three red lights in a row! You could have killed us! Mildred turned to her and said "Oh S#!T, am I driving?"
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Al G
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If you can take what I said to you in my last post. I can laugh at your Joke:lol
The strange thing is alot of my friends (my age) are sending these to me.
Everyone laughs because they know that it really doesn't apply to them yet.
I just talked to a younger friend of mine, of course he has fell off the "elderly cliff" that you seem to think exist.
A month ago he bought a $100,000.00 Correa 4+ Porsche (?) and ask if would evaluate it at Infineon Raceway (Sears Point)
I told him of this discussion and to my surprise He is thinks we could work it for me to give you a lap, but is insisting on putting a plastic bag
over the passenger seat. Also suggested you bring a fresh set of underwear. Also if you puke you have to pay for detailing the car.
If that does not work, a dirt stock car owner I sponsor is sure to help. He wanted me to run it in Chowchilla anyway. We would just have to mount a
passenger seat. We could skip the plastic bag then, but you would have to clean up.
Albert G
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Arrogance is like a kingdom without a crown.
BUT - I will take you up on your offer under 2 conditions. One, I get to drive too, and 2, you have to paddle out to O.B. with me when its 10ft plus,
and you have to take off on a wave.
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comitan
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I think the ant is trying to move the ox but he'll just get a hernia.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajamatic
Arrogance is like a kingdom without a crown.
BUT - I will take you up on your offer under 2 conditions. One, I get to drive too, and 2, you have to paddle out to O.B. with me when its 10ft plus,
and you have to take off on a wave. |
Neither condition is possiable.
No one is going to let you drive a race car without racing experience. Schools for a fee will. It is a lot farther over your head then you think. I
understand, I thuoght the same way when I bought my first Stock car.
I would not try to surf in 10' surf without experience, maybe the only differance in us...Knowing when We are over our heads.
The thing I seem to see though is your are admitting we are equal, a 62 and a 30 something.............
Albert G
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Bruce R Leech
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I am 57 years old and I should not be aloud to drive. I Fail to appreciate the frustration, exasperation, or irritation exhibited by other drivers
toward my driving.
I Get lost in familiar places. I cant even find any familiar places.
I Drive against traffic, on the wrong side of the road because it is easer to make left turns
I have difficulty seeing pedestrians, objects, and other vehicles.
I Back up after missing an exit (definite danger).in fact I back up when I don't miss anything.
I Fall asleep while driving or gets drowsy."
and usually when and if I get to where I am going I cant remember why I came or where from. in fact I don't even know who I am and who are all these
people.
can any one tell me how to get home ?
[Edited on 10-12-2006 by Bruce R Leech]
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I am 57 years old and I should not be aloud to drive. I Fail to appreciate the frustration, exasperation, or irritation exhibited by other drivers
toward my driving.
I Get lost in familiar places.
I Drive against traffic, on the wrong side of the road (definite danger).
I have difficulty seeing pedestrians, objects, and other vehicles.
I Back up after missing an exit (definite danger).in fact I back up when I don't miss anything.
I Fall asleep while driving or gets drowsy."
and usually when and if I get to where I am going I cant remember why I came or where from. in fact I don't even know who I am and who are all these
people.
can any one tell me how to get home ? |
Damn it Bruce, You are not suppose to admit it!!
Especially the memory part
Albert G
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