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Barry A.
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Fly------True, true, oh so true, BUT------
You say-------"This may be part of my confusion. I thought these agencies also represented the interest of the health of the forest and were in the
business of ensuring sustainable harvest so that the resource could be protected for future use and enjoyment."
Your statement (again) is true, but I don't believe it conflicts with what I said-------thus I don't understand the confusion.
Again, perhaps you (or your sources) are missing the BIG picture-------The USFS, and to a lesser degree the BLM, are charged with providing for, and
assuring, a sustained yield of forest products (and minerals, grazing, etc.). And these agencies use science and experience to do this. In doing
this, some, from both internally and externally, think that any contact with "outside interests" represents "colusion" between the "industry" and the
Govt.. This is a catch 22 for the USFS (BLM)-----they HAVE to work with the "industry" since the forests are harvested by industry, not the USFS/BLM,
but also are charged with protecting the resources from exploitation by that industry---------they do both, and personally I think they do a pretty
good job. The "owl folks" tend to lose site of this fact, however, or simply do not agree. They wear blinders, in my opinion----tunnel vision!!
Now the Park Service (NPS) is simply charged with "protection" and "preserving", with NO harvesting------maintaining a "natural" environment. Their
problem is "what is truly natural"? Completely natural is no longer possible with man lurking about (unless one accepts the premise that "man is part
of nature", which I do). Therefore, they too are more and more "managing" the resources for the enjoyment of future generations (reads people)
(controlled burns, etc. ), but to a much lesser degree than either USFS and BLM.
Of course, none of this has anything to do with Baja, or with fishes, or with great pictures of beautiful subjects. To those of you who could care
less about this subject above, I apologize for taking up your time-----Fly and I should be U2U'ing, I suppose.
Viva Baja (and beautiful pictures)
Barry
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Minnow
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Are you trying to get me to bring up the dancing ladies...................
Are you saying that you are the new you know who?
[Edited on 9-12-2006 by Minnow]
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Iflyfish
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Barry,
Thank you very much for the clarification.
How I think this relates to Baja is that you have described a model of how the USofA has developed institutions to address the competing interests of
people who would exploit, use the resources, and those who would preserve those resources.
As to hooters and fish, now that connection is more difficult, but we are working on it. I will observe both more.
Iflyfish
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Bajagypsy
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Shari, I would love to get my white butt down there, just give us a couple more months to get some monies together!!!!! I could send you a
saskatchewan dog, maybe that would stop the earthquakes!!! (I will even let them wear my bikini)!!!!
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Barry A.
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Gypsy-------No new photos????
------we patiently await your next picture post of diving in the wilds of Baja-------to see what new fishies you all have speared, of course.
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synch
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You're correct.
Sheepshead is for those who absolutely must kill something, but as far as eating it then you could do much better.
| Quote: | Originally posted by CShirk
you'd have to be real hungry too. sheapshead isn't exactly the best fish i have ever had. Most of the time it reminds me of some kind of tapioca
(sp?)... yuck. Maybe I just haven't prepared it correctly?? |
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
I agree-----every time I return to this thread I gravatate towards the first post, and it is NOT because of the fish displayed!!!!
Photos are worth a thousand words, for sure. | Quote: | Originally posted by shari
What's all the comotion over the fish in the picture..I took this photo and it was the BIKINI I loved...white as snow in Saskatchewan! That's what
lured that sheepshead! Gypsies, I think you should get your white butts down here as all this earthquake business started when you left!
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There are two things that smell like fish - one of them is fish
[Edited on 1-18-2007 by synch]
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Pappy Jon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
What's all the comotion over the fish in the picture..I took this photo and it was the BIKINI I loved. |
And clearly I wasn't the only guy to notice.
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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I love it that this thread keeps reappearing and I'm sure my gypsy amiga does too...as I believe SHE has the sexiest avatar on this board...we should
take a vote for this maybe!
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Bajagypsy
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Shari, you are to kind, you might make me blush!!!
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BajaDanD
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Nice photo and nice fish
Another Hijacked thread not so nice
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Bajagypsy
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Not too many comments on the guy holding dead fish???? Maybe I'll wear my speedo's next time 
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pacificobob
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fish cops?
i better keep our alaksa fish photos on the down-low!
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Halboo
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I can't understand anybody saying sheephead aren't good eatin'.
Just becuase they are easy to shoot don't mean they ain't good grub. They aren't as plentiful on the inshore reefs as the used to be, but there are
still healty populations in deeper waters.
BTW
Gar Goodson's "Fishes of the Pacific Coast" calls them "very good eating" and I and everybody I know that's had it agree.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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shari
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Yesterday some neighbours came over here and we had an excess of fish to give away due to some Nomads fishing with us and the fish of choice was the
sheepshead...it makes absolutely divine chowder...unbeatable in a stew for sure and great ceviche as well. so there!
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Bajagypsy
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If I may say so myself, I made a kick butt soup out of the Sheep's head. Not a fan of it any other way. Juan also makes an amazaing chowder with
sheep's head.
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