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bajalou
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"Biodegradability is determined by what happens to a product when it ends up in a landfill. When something is thrown away, it may be incinerated or
buried in a landfill. Environmental scientists who have studied modern landfills doubt that much of anything can degrade in them given their lack of
light, water, and bacterial activity, which are the necessary elements for natural degradation. Interestingly, researchers have found thirty-year-old
hot dogs in landfills that have mummified instead of decomposed!"
http://www.four-h.purdue.edu/foods/Recycling.htm
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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Barry A.
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Soon we will not be able to refer to various pipe fittings as "male" and "female"-------someone might be offended!!!
What a mess we have gotten ourselves into.
As for things deterioating (or not) above ground-------when I was pre-10 years old, I built some tiny stick-houses made from old wooden orange crates
(like we all used to have), the wood being about 1/4 inch thick. This was in Owens Valley which is pretty deserty. Today, those tiny stick houses are
still intact, and actually look pretty good-------that was more than 50 years ago.
So much for above-ground deteriorating!!! Did I mention banana peels, and how long they last above ground??? Many, many years.
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Sharksbaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
"Biodegradability is determined by what happens to a product when it ends up in a landfill. When something is thrown away, it may be incinerated or
buried in a landfill. Environmental scientists who have studied modern landfills doubt that much of anything can degrade in them given their lack of
light, water, and bacterial activity, which are the necessary elements for natural degradation. Interestingly, researchers have found thirty-year-old
hot dogs in landfills that have mummified instead of decomposed!"
http://www.four-h.purdue.edu/foods/Recycling.htm |
Yep, that's why smart people plan proper landfills. You need microbes to do the dirty work.
They can be a good source of methane for many years.
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MrBillM
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Bio What ?
I look forward to discovering just how "Biodegradable" some people are.
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DENNIS
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MrBill----
The British regard the Irish today as the raceially devided minds of the U.S. regard the Blacks. Im offended by that and, Im not even there.
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MrBillM
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"raceially devided minds" ?
Whatever that Means ! Any Irishman (myself included) who is Still being gnawed at by the disgraceful and vicious acts of GB towards the Irish in the
long ago past, needs to reassess their priorities.
I DO Fly the Irish Flag ABOVE that of the UK, though.
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abreojos
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Capt. George
do you remember our highways and byways before Lady Bird and her Clean up America Campaign? I do.
The roads were pretty skanky. I take my trash to the dump site (all 2,652 sq miles of it) and burn what I can....
I've become accomplished at not seeing it...
harmonious nightly thunderings indeed! you're sleeping outside if you ever come to visit.
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You guys are a riot! I guess I missed a few beats on this thread. George, I remember that program and have tried to get it going in Abreojos. Just
look around the schools and see how well it isn't working. Native Americans just don't care and Mexico is predominatly Native American. Thank sombody
we don't have neo natzies here. I take the trash anyday.
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David K
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'eco-N-zis' changed to 'eco-nuts' in the post way above, as a peace offering to my friend Dave.
I do think opinions (which that term was) should not be offensive to anyone (in the name of freedom of expression), but that it was offensive to Dave,
who I know, was why I changed my post.
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Zac, I have no problem with saving the enviroment and conserving the good things on earth (I am a conservative, remember). I do have a big problem
with people using the enviroment to push a socialist, anti American agenda and trying to take away my freedoms and lifestyle... You know, only
pointing to enviromental problems in America, that America needs to cut back, that Americans have 'too much', etc. All the while ignoring the death of
forests in the (now former) communist East Block, pollution pouring out of Chinese factories, and all cars in the third world, etc.
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Capt. George
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you're going to Hell anyway David, apologies will get you nowhere on this one. You said a politically incorrect word..
first a little jail time with that slandering MrBill..
As for me, you know where I'm going, jealous ain't you. Floating around on those clouds looking down and throwing "garbage" at you vile sinners!
enjoy the heat right wingers.
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Capt. George
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Abreojos
How come I ain't never seen ya in Abreojos?
Maybe cause I wasn't lookin?
el Vikingo de Punta Abreojos
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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abreojos
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Hi George, maybe you have. I haven't been there very much the last 4 years. Not at all last year. Got 2 trips in the fall 05', but I got skunked for
the first time fishing there which POed me. Could see Corvina everywhere, but they just wouldn't even nibble!
f you eat at Bidio's Fish Tacos aka Las Palmas in front of the pangas you probably seen me there. I was there for 2001-02 all the time. Now I am stuck
in Cabo trying to make enough $ for my second semi retirement. Years ago we almost bought a block like Ray did. He beat us to it by a hair. Prefer my
place anyhow. Got phone Internet, elect and water right there and it was much cheaper, no road in front of it and easy to walk to town.
We are buying another house close to San Jose near Palmilla so I won't be building anything up there in the near future. Can't decide exactly what to
build there anyhow.
Sold my airstream to Marcos Arce, Martin's older brother, who died last year. They still owe us half the money. If you hear of anybody looking for a
trailer in Abreojos, let me know. They are worth 3 times what I am selling it for refurburshed in the states. I'd like to finish that going on 5 years
deal.
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Capt. George
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Marco was a good friend to me but a sly money guy...Martin & Chuey on the other hand, have been always honest and upfront with me We have phone,
internet and I understand the water problem in Ojos solved, we'll see.
do you still have a place in Ojos, and if so, where, I seem to be reading "in town"? We won't be down, probably till Oct..moving up to Coffman Cove AK
hasta
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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joel
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Abreojos,
I'm looking for a trailer for a couple of Abre lots, by coincidence.
Can you provide any details, photos?
I may be down there in about a week or so, depending on work.
Joel
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abreojos
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Joel check you U2U
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rts551
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Joe
Better check on your trailers. Someone has moved into one of the airstreams down by the airstrip. Don't know if it is yours though.
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Bruce R Leech
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If you put your trash in boxes and tape them shut and leave them buy your car some one will steal them right away.
Bruce R Leech
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abreojos
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Thanks, we will check to see what is up. We have the title and and everything is recorded in the deligation.
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oxxo
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With regards to trash, people will do whatever is right for themselves. We dispose of our trash in a proper manner in Baja, whenever possible. If
not possible, we haul it back out. Call us eco-N-zis, eco-nuts, Liberals, or Irish (which I am), whatever you like, but it's the right thing for us.
We have our own little private "Adopt a Highway" program in Mexico to pick up trash along the highway in response to those people who wish to dispose
of their trash out the window.
On our drive out from Baja about a month ago, we had the van filled with about 6 or 7 large bags of trash. At one of the military checkpoints, the
young soldier opened the door, and one of the bags fell out and spilled trash all over his feet. It was quite amusing to see the look of dismay on
his face! We got an immediate wave through!
Trying to do the right thing for us, and proud of it......whatever you want to call me.
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