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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 09:18 AM


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We always travel with hydrogen peroxide. If your dog eats a puffer fish, force a teaspoon of it down his/her throat and they will throw up and hopefully get rid of the poison. Of course it works for anything they eat that looks suspect to you.


Thanks for that idea! :yes::yes:

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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 12:06 PM


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Commenting on a new ordinance in La Paz (our home city for 1/2 the year) does not make one a "dog-fanatic" nor one who takes their dog to inappropriate places. The purpose of this board is to inform folks and "discuss" items relative to Baja. That's all that is significant to these postings. To imply that folks discussing relative new rules are "fanatics" is out-of-line and cannot help but create a chilling effect on further postings. Lots of changes are happening in La Paz, some good, some not. Being informed, or being an informer, does not necessarily make one an advocate nor a "whiner". It is simply creating awareness of a change, nothing more, nothing less.


Thank you for your support Jack. You wouldn't expect a "goat" (the one who made the post that Jack is referencing) to appreciate dogs, anyway.

This "whiner dog fanatic" doesn't live in La Paz. When he is on the road, his dog is at home on the road. It is too hot to leave him enclosed in a vehicle. You can't leave him unattended in an RV park. He also needs exercise. What better place to walk him,when in La Paz, than on the Malecon?

As stated before, I am a responsible dog owner. When in a town, my dog is always on leash and I always carry plastic bags to pick up after him. Sure, some dog owners are irresponsible, but I doubt you would see them allowing their dog to crap on the Malecon, with people around, and not pick it up. It is probably not the gringos' dogs who are leaving the messes. Thus, a dog ban for the Malecon only serves to cause people to not come to La Paz. I am upset because I love La Paz. I have photographed the malecon, its sculptures and its waterfront extensively. I have used these photos in published articles on Art in Mexico.

As for Lencho viewing my post as a Knee slapper, OK, consider this: I bought ALL my furniture in La Paz, and then did it all over again after it got ruined in the Mulege flood last year.

In my post which Lencho found so funny, I suggested that I will not be spending my travel money in La Paz. I would venture to say that, when word gets around, anybody with dogs will not (can not) visit La Paz. Of course, "city hall" could care less about missing my spending, but I also used the word "exponential". So, it is not delusionary to think that word would spread.....and the effect on the economy of La Paz would be....well.....exponential.

It is also reasonable to expect that, given the slow down in the U.S. economy, fewer people will be visiting Baja. Wouldn't you think an intelligent business community would try and retain business that it could have? Indirectly, I was wishing that Jesse, or another Mexican National with good standing in the business community would try and get the dog ban rescinded. Gee, I guess I won't get to meet my fellow Nomad Lencho either. :(




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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 01:29 PM


Don't be too hard on Lencho (Larry). He's a good guy with a sense of humor. If you get to La Paz between Dec and May, look us up in Marina de La Paz. We'll get Larry down and have a couple of beers. You'd like him. Larry: I'm up for that Presa/La Paz hike when it cools off.
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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 01:39 PM
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As stated before, I am a responsible dog owner. When in a town, my dog is always on leash and I always carry plastic bags to pick up after him. Sure, some dog owners are irresponsible, but I doubt you would see them allowing their dog to crap on the Malecon, with people around, and not pick it up.


Now if could just get the street dogs to carry plastic poop bags. :lol::lol:

Seriously, irresponsible dog owners make it worse for all of us---especially in hotels.

This new law does make us more reluctant to visit La Paz. Love the Malecon, but can't leave the dogs in the room or in the car.

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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 04:49 PM


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Don't be too hard on Lencho (Larry). He's a good guy with a sense of humor. If you get to La Paz between Dec and May, look us up in Marina de La Paz. We'll get Larry down and have a couple of beers. You'd like him. Larry: I'm up for that Presa/La Paz hike when it cools off.


OK, Jack.
I realize that Larry's humor was more directed at his sense of futility for my boycott. It did stir me to feel the need to go on and on and on and on and on. I will definately look you up at the marina if I go there. :yes:




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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 04:51 PM


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As stated before, I am a responsible dog owner. When in a town, my dog is always on leash and I always carry plastic bags to pick up after him. Sure, some dog owners are irresponsible, but I doubt you would see them allowing their dog to crap on the Malecon, with people around, and not pick it up.


Now if could just get the street dogs to carry plastic poop bags. :lol::lol:

Seriously, irresponsible dog owners make it worse for all of us---especially in hotels.

This new law does make us more reluctant to visit La Paz. Love the Malecon, but can't leave the dogs in the room or in the car.

Diane


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[*] posted on 9-13-2007 at 09:16 AM
From what I can understand


no one is enforcing the doggy laws
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n416745.htm

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[*] posted on 9-13-2007 at 08:53 PM


Ok..another minor hijack..I couldn't resist.




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[*] posted on 9-13-2007 at 09:19 PM


Have the paperwork from the vet and everything will be fine.... My dog actually got away bitting three people in one trip. Maybe this is why I can cross the border at 0300. The check points even leave me alone when they try and search the four door f-250.

I think this just gave me the answer to crossing the border in the early AM. Leave the windows down allowing the dog to stick his face out and bark at everything intrusive????????????????? The bigger and nastier the dog the better. Maybe we found a new purpose for Vick's dogs before they get euthonized.... HAAAAA
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[*] posted on 9-13-2007 at 10:25 PM


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My dog actually got away bitting three people in one trip. Leave the windows down allowing the dog to stick his face out and bark at everything intrusive????????????????? The bigger and nastier the dog the better. Maybe we found a new purpose for Vick's dogs before they get euthonized.... HAAAAA


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[*] posted on 9-13-2007 at 11:08 PM


The sad part is two of the people were my mexican friends.... The other was Pinada in Loreto. Capn.Sharky was sitting next to me during lunch when that happened...

[Edited on 9-14-2007 by wakemall]

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Have the paperwork from the vet and everything will be fine.... My dog actually got away bitting three people in one trip. Maybe this is why I can cross the border at 0300. The check points even leave me alone when they try and search the four door f-250.

I think this just gave me the answer to crossing the border in the early AM. Leave the windows down allowing the dog to stick his face out and bark at everything intrusive????????????????? The bigger and nastier the dog the better. Maybe we found a new purpose for Vick's dogs before they get euthonized.... HAAAAA



This is why rules against dogs are made. They ruin it for the rest of us. :(




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[*] posted on 9-14-2007 at 12:09 PM


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The sad part is two of the people were my mexican friends.... The other was Pinada in Loreto. Capn.Sharky was sitting next to me during lunch when that happened...

[Edited on 9-14-2007 by wakemall]

[Edited on 9-14-2007 by wakemall]


Are you saying your dog bit Javier Pineda?
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Yepppppp......
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[*] posted on 9-14-2007 at 11:16 PM


Tell ya what there dogmiester. If you're ever in the neighborhood with Fido,don't look us up.



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[*] posted on 9-23-2007 at 06:01 PM


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....I think this just gave me the answer to crossing the border in the early AM. Leave the windows down allowing the dog to stick his face out and bark at everything intrusive????????????????? The bigger and nastier the dog the better....




Is this dog big enough? This is an English Mastiff, 18 mo. old, 37" at the shoulder, 255 lbs. I've have enjoyed the benefit of owning two of them in my lifetime and am seriously thinking about doing it again (if I can convince Dern). The advantages my Mastiff's afforded me in Baja was the peace of mind I had traveling alone with my kids and knowing that no one was going to attempt to come close if they weren't personally invited. The worst thing was putting up with the the 'how many tacos can I make out of your dog' question, but other than that, they were both worth their weight in gold to me. I also had a Bullmastiff, she was 180 lbs full grown, and served the same purpose, but not as intimidating right off the bat as "Rhubarb" and "Sally" were.

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[*] posted on 9-23-2007 at 06:19 PM


Paulina - beautiful dog. I have never had personal experiences with one, but a girlfriend, back in the old country had one of these Mastino Napoletano (Neapolitan Mastiff):



Not quite as big as 255 lbs, but close. His name was Nerone (Nero). A sweetheart of a dog. Noone would even come close, invited or not, unless they knew what they were dealing with, and few did/do. Here's another picture of the same breed as a puppy.



Supposedly, these dogs were bred by the Roman legions and were war dogs - they went into battle with their owners. :wow: Needless to say, the are EXTREMELY protective of their family. :cool:
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Roberto,

The Neapolitan Mastiff is a beautiful dog as well. I've only seen a few of them in person, and although they are not as big as the English Mastiff, they can be even more impressive because of their wrinkles and the 'mean' look on their face as a result of their wrinkles. I would get the same response to my bulldogs face and he was a sweetheart (most of the time).

The Mastiff breed is as you said, EXTREMELY protective, so it is imperative that they are properly socialized as puppies. Our Mastiff Rhubarb grew up going to Mexico and was friendly when it was appropriate, but always put himself between me, or the kids with who ever we were talking to. He liked Pepe Smith, and even went fishing with us on Doc's Gecko 1, but he had a dislike for Doc's helper Daniel, as well as Felipe the mechanic in town.

The dogs know their size and don't have a tendency to bite, but to head butt. Rhubarb did head butt a few people onto their butts when they got too close to me and the kids on the beach in town.

One time a car pulled up to the trailers, parking right in what we considered our beach 'front yard' and proceeded to have a make out session. Not appropriate for the time and situation, me alone with my two young kids. I walked out to make it obvious that this was not the right spot, obviously not making any difference to the lovers...so I let Rhubarb go investigate. ( I would usually put him on a lunge line when I heard someone coming) He ran up to the drivers side window, which was eye level to him, and started sniffing and rubbing his teeth and gums all over the glass while trying to sniff the people out.

The look on that mans face was to die for! It wasn't as "in your face" as it was when he was looking at me, it was more like "What the hell is that!!??" He started up that car and couldn't get it into reverse fast enough. I called off Rhubarb and never had any problems the rest of the trip.

Here's the AKC link to the Neo if anyone is interested:

http://www.akc.org/breeds/neapolitan_mastiff/index.cfm

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[*] posted on 9-23-2007 at 07:07 PM


I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much, but another amusing time with Rhubarb was at a military check point. I always warned the guys not to open the back without me, as I had "un Pero Grande" back there. When I lifted the lid to the shell they were shocked, and the look on their faces when they saw Rhubarb, too much!

All inspections stopped at that point and EVERY ONE of the military guys had to come and look at him. Then after Rhubarb was comfortable the men took turns posing at the back of the truck with their machine guns out, kneeling below his huge body as he leaned out of the truck, while passing around a disposable camera. The military guys were taking photos of each other making tough faces with their guns, and Rhubarb's head right above theirs, and much bigger than theirs. Too funny. I didn't get searched, they all shook my hand and sent me and the kids on our way.

The only time anyone ever threatened to shoot my dog was an inspector on the American side, but I've already told that story.

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[*] posted on 9-23-2007 at 11:44 PM


Dogs give us much joy! Especially if you give them good obedience training and socialize them with people and other dogs when they are around six months old. People who don't like dogs are really missing out. They are, however, a big responsibility...and should be considered as such. There is a lot to consider before committing to owning a dog; training, time to spend with them, medical attention, willingness to exercise them and space enough for them to run and be dogs.

Oh yes....you must be willing to pick up their poop. Above all, you can't allow them to bark incessantly and/or bother people. People who aren't responsible make it difficult for the rest of us.

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