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fdt
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A good source of information is this http://radio.ultimatebaja.com/
We report the news at least 2 days before it is reported by US media.
As for this meeting, I talked about it and stated that no one at the Tijuana Tourism Board knew about it, as I called yesterday to ask about it after
it was posted here. I also mentioned that it sounded like an Hugo Torres from Rosarito deal. The only inagural ceremony that changed location because
of rain was Rosarito yesterday wich those that were listening to the show know. And as for accuracy, Manuel Diaz Lerma is not the Secretary of public
safety, it is Daniel de la Rosa Anaya.
I don't know were this reporter is getting his information but it is extreemly inacurate.
That is my .02¢
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Thanks Fernando...I am not surprised. No more info until Monday at 6:00pm...right?
Albert G
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Well, here is an update;
Liutenant Coronel Julián Leyzaola Pérez, as first order in his new position as Director de Policia y Transito Municipal (city chief of police)
releved all chiefs of police from their positions (removed / took out ?) and in their place came in the highest ranking ones. This is for now,
"Changes in comand, that is afirmative, I think we need to evaluate the people that are ocupying the posts right now, not because it is comon with the
change of administration but because we had to pass thru filters and were given the oportunity to ocupy this position, anyone who has a leadership
position within the police force will have to pass thru the filters" said Julián Leyzaola Pérez.
[Edited on 12-2-2007 by fdt]
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Thanks for the information fdt.
I think at the bare minimum right now, every active duty municipal, state and federal police officer from the top down should be administered a
polygraph examination regarding their involvement in crimes committed against their citizens and foreign visitors. If they show deception on the
polygraph they should be further questioned their confessions obtained then jailed and prosecuted.
All new police recruits should at the bare minimum be subjected to a polygraph examination a psychological examination and a detailed background
investigation regarding their activities before they ever get hired and go to the police academy.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The free road they are talking about is the last exit for Rosarito Beach which is the xit after the huge new Commerical grocery store. You veer off
to the right- and head north. When yo uget to the very top of the hills (just past the large furniture warehouse)- you take the clover leaf and go to
the left. That road runs all the way to the border (and turns into the via rapido at Playas de Tijuana). This route bypasses the most dangerous part
of the toll road- the section north of rosarito (it also saves you $2.50).
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whooosh: it sounds like you turn toward playas at a clover leaf and then drive along the border fence road to the border.
if you stay on the free road, straight all the way, you will drive through town, across the river, turn left at padre kino and end up at either the
regular border line or sentri. thereby bypassing the border fence road altogether.
sbwontoo
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.........I think at the bare minimum right now, every active duty municipal, state and federal police officer from the top down should be administered
a polygraph examination........ ...............When being questioned make no statement, make no waivers and take no polygraph. And never sign a
consent to search form ............
Hmmmmmm, methinks a contradiction?????
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
.........I think at the bare minimum right now, every active duty municipal, state and federal police officer from the top down should be administered
a polygraph examination........ ...............When being questioned make no statement, make no waivers and take no polygraph. And never sign a
consent to search form ............
Hmmmmmm, methinks a contradiction????? |
No that advise was for all you honest people!
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Al G
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Not a good first order. the transfer or firing of all 3rd cousins and higher relatives under one command should have been first. This is how they
structure crime families...
Then polygraph district chiefs with hired outside people (US).
You are not going to change the world over night by demoting the District chiefs. You can cause chaos by losing that much experience that
quickly. Most likely they knew this may happen and have their own plans in place to take care of themselves.
I know I am being cynical, but it all sounds very political to me. I must keep a wait and see attitude...
Albert G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Since order of law means nothing and our lives are at stake, do what the rules say you can't do. Carry a loaded high power pistol on the seat next
to you. The days of obeying the law are over for everybody and we can't be denied the right to protect ourselves. Those who have insisted that it
is their exclusive responsibility, our protection, refuse to assume their responsibility.
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somebody forgot their med -i - caaaa -tion.
please sir, PLEASE practice what you preach. pretty please?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fandango
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The free road they are talking about is the last exit for Rosarito Beach which is the xit after the huge new Commerical grocery store. You veer off
to the right- and head north. When yo uget to the very top of the hills (just past the large furniture warehouse)- you take the clover leaf and go to
the left. That road runs all the way to the border (and turns into the via rapido at Playas de Tijuana). This route bypasses the most dangerous part
of the toll road- the section north of rosarito (it also saves you $2.50).
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whooosh: it sounds like you turn toward playas at a clover leaf and then drive along the border fence road to the border.
if you stay on the free road, straight all the way, you will drive through town, across the river, turn left at padre kino and end up at either the
regular border line or sentri. thereby bypassing the border fence road altogether. |
The route I mentioned just bypasses the most deangerous section of the toll road, but links back up on the other side of Playas de Tijuana. If you
don't turn at the top of the hill clover-leaf, you just go down the other side of the hill and into TJ. There are signs that take direct you to the
border- it's just not a fun drive and may not be the ideal driving experience for most people just trying to get back home.
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I took a late flight from Puerto Rico to San Diego last night and drove home on the toll road and did not see one Federal de Camino patrol car. When
do you see them? On Tuesdays and Wednesdays when they stop all of those large trucks carring second hand store articles for the second hand stores in
Ensenada. Im sure you have see these trucks. They are usually 3/4 ton pick ups whicih are loaded with house hold items. The highway patrol stop these
trucks for their $50.00 mordita in Tijuana, Roarito, and Ensenada. Next time you see one of these trucks pulled over by them you now know why.
I also heard from a friend that there are individuals wearing road construction uniforms who have stopped vehicles on the toll road and have robbed
people. Many have not stopped and have continued threw and were pelted by rocks.
Something needs to be done now. I have suggested to my friends in law enforcement here that a sting operation should be in place. On Saturday
afternoon have a truck with camper shell (California plates) with a few officers in or close by, to catch theives breaking in. Have a truck driving
north on the toll road with a quad in the back, late at night, with some officers to catch these rattas. NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. Im sure it is the same
individuals commiting these crimes and it would'nt take much to catch them. Or could it be the same people we trust with our security who are doing
this? Could be..........
I dont feel as safe here as I use to 20 years ago when I was stopped almost every other day for the usual mordita by the local cops. To get to the
border now is a real journey which I refer to as "The old West" with real banditos that will kill you and Im not even in a covered wagon and cannott
carry a gun!
Dont drive at night when these low lifes are operating. Dont give them the opportunity to take advantage of you and take what is yours, especially
your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These bastards will eventually burn in hell but it wont come soon enough for me..
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This is proably so the relieved Chief can buy there jobs back from the good coronel
| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
Well, here is an update;
Liutenant Coronel Julián Leyzaola Pérez, as first order in his new position as Director de Policia y Transito Municipal (city chief of police)
releved all chiefs of police from their positions (removed / took out ?) and in their place came in the highest ranking ones. This is for now,
"Changes in comand, that is afirmative, I think we need to evaluate the people that are ocupying the posts right now, not because it is comon with the
change of administration but because we had to pass thru filters and were given the oportunity to ocupy this position, anyone who has a leadership
position within the police force will have to pass thru the filters" said Julián Leyzaola Pérez.
[Edited on 12-2-2007 by fdt] |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lizard lips
I took a late flight from Puerto Rico to San Diego last night and drove home on the toll road and did not see one Federal de Camino patrol car. When
do you see them? |
It is my understanding that they don't work the road after 9 PM. They probably figure it's too dangerous.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gibson
somebody forgot their med -i - caaaa -tion.
please sir, PLEASE practice what you preach. pretty please? |
I like the "Sir" part. Keep it up.
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I have written to the President of Mexico, the Governor of Baja California the director of tourism in Tijuana and I just shot off a letter to the head
of the Procurador General de la República. I wanted to write to the Honorable Jorge Ramos Hernández, Presidente Municipal de Tijuana but I can't seem
to find his e-mail address yet. The following is my letter to the head of the PJR.
Honorable Licenciado Eduardo Medina Mora Icaza
Procurador General de la República
Estimado Señor Icaza,
Perdóname, soy Norte Americano y mi español no es perfecto. Ojala que entiendes mi mensaje de auxilio.
Vivo en el sur de California de los Estados Unidos de América. Estoy preocupado por el bienestar de mi familia cuando voy de visita a Baja California
México. Cuando uno abre los periódicos se lea que hay otro desastre en el camino, en las ciudades y las playas de Baja California México con
visitantes extranjeros que están robados, secuestrados o peor asesinados.
Por favor haga algo para la seguridad en los caminos de cuota de Tijuana a Ensenada y los demás caminos que usan los visitantes extranjeros para
ingresar al interior de Baja California y el país de México en general. Trata de capturar a los criminales que son o quien pasa como que son, la
policía quien roba, secuestra y matan a los visitantes.
Tambien ayuda con la policía en general del municipio, estatal y federal para que ellos se mejoren su propio conducto profesional cuando hacen
contacto con visitantes en Baja California. La mayoría de visitantes extranjeros nomás están visitando y portándose bien. La mayoría de los
extranjeros vienen a México porque tienen cariño y amor para la gente Mexicana y tambien porque México es un país maravilloso. Si los criminales y
ciertas policías malos siguen con delitos contra los visitantes extranjeros eso va a destruir el bienestar de México. Eso es lo que yo pienso.
Estimado Señor Icaza, te urjo que usted mismo se involucra en esta obra bueno para limpiar Baja California y México en general de los malos y ponerlos
adonde se merecen de estar. Yo se que usted tiene muchos responsabilidades como Procurador de la Republica Mexicana pero por favor tambien ponga
atención en la problema de la seguridad de los visitantes extranjeros a Baja California y México en general.. Me alegro que gano El Honorable Jorge
Ramos Hernández como Presidente Municipal de Tijuana. Se ve que ese hombre tiene pantalones y va hacer algo tambien. Quiero que sepas que no estoy
metiendo en los políticos de México nomás pido ayuda con los delitos contra los gentes buenos que visitan a México.
Muchas gracias por su tiempo.
Atentamente,
David *******
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Thanks Minnow. Say, I met a big German fan of yours and JRs' in Mulege.
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It's no wonder. I am huge in Germany.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
I have written to the President of Mexico, the Governor of Baja California the director of tourism in Tijuana and I just shot off a letter to the head
of the Procurador General de la República. I wanted to write to the Honorable Jorge Ramos Hernández, Presidente Municipal de Tijuana but I can't seem
to find his e-mail address yet. The following is my letter to the head of the PJR.
Honorable Licenciado Eduardo Medina Mora Icaza
Procurador General de la República
Estimado Señor Icaza,
Perdóname, soy Norte Americano y mi español no es perfecto. Ojala que entiendes mi mensaje de auxilio.
Vivo en el sur de California de los Estados Unidos de América. Estoy preocupado por el bienestar de mi familia cuando voy de visita a Baja California
México. Cuando uno abre los periódicos se lea que hay otro desastre en el camino, en las ciudades y las playas de Baja California México con
visitantes extranjeros que están robados, secuestrados o peor asesinados.
Por favor haga algo para la seguridad en los caminos de cuota de Tijuana a Ensenada y los demás caminos que usan los visitantes extranjeros para
ingresar al interior de Baja California y el país de México en general. Trata de capturar a los criminales que son o quien pasa como que son, la
policía quien roba, secuestra y matan a los visitantes.
Tambien ayuda con la policía en general del municipio, estatal y federal para que ellos se mejoren su propio conducto profesional cuando hacen
contacto con visitantes en Baja California. La mayoría de visitantes extranjeros nomás están visitando y portándose bien. La mayoría de los
extranjeros vienen a México porque tienen cariño y amor para la gente Mexicana y tambien porque México es un país maravilloso. Si los criminales y
ciertas policías malos siguen con delitos contra los visitantes extranjeros eso va a destruir el bienestar de México. Eso es lo que yo pienso.
Estimado Señor Icaza, te urjo que usted mismo se involucra en esta obra bueno para limpiar Baja California y México en general de los malos y ponerlos
adonde se merecen de estar. Yo se que usted tiene muchos responsabilidades como Procurador de la Republica Mexicana pero por favor tambien ponga
atención en la problema de la seguridad de los visitantes extranjeros a Baja California y México en general.. Me alegro que gano El Honorable Jorge
Ramos Hernández como Presidente Municipal de Tijuana. Se ve que ese hombre tiene pantalones y va hacer algo tambien. Quiero que sepas que no estoy
metiendo en los políticos de México nomás pido ayuda con los delitos contra los gentes buenos que visitan a México.
Muchas gracias por su tiempo.
Atentamente,
David ******* |
David...I want to tell you how much I appreciate you efforts...my Spanish is coming along and comprehend some bot not all. I am sure it is a
respectful letter, but I do not know if it says all I would like to be said, so I cannot copy and send one myself.
Below is a post from another thread, I believe should be suggested to the new mayor and Govenor...
| Quote: | Originally posted by Alan
I recall an article in the WSJ from about 20-25 years ago when they were having problems with bandidos in the remote areas around Catavina preying on
tourists. It was handled relatively quickly when Federalies set up a sting. Posing as tourists pulling a travel trailer they drove that section of
road until they were finally stopped by bandidos. That's when all the Federalies poured out of the travel travel and made short work of the bandidos.
Problem solved with no impact to their court system. Perhaps its time for old ideas to become new again. |
These people most likely were not cops, and not giving part of their booty to officials. Some how this needs to be conveyed to the Governor that the
tourist will not feel like coming to Baja until they see bodies on the ground or in jail...and proof they were the cops responsible. This will send a
message that cops are not protected.
I do not know how to do this respecfully and want it to be in Spanish.
Does your letter say close to this?
Albert G
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Al G
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Another suggestion is for cameras in patrol units so when a legal stop is made and the guilty party tries to bribe the officer...they can be arrested
and put in jail for the crime that has caused all this corruption to start with.
Albert G
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My pleasure Al G.
Here is a rough translation of what it says in English. My skills are rusty so bare with me.
The Honorable ….Name here
Title here……
Dear Mr.
I live in (State you are from) of the United States of America. I am worried about the well-being of my family when I visit Baja California Mexico.
When one opens the newspapers there are stories of another disaster on the roadway, in the cities and beaches of Baja California Mexico involving
foreign visitors who are robbed, kidnapped or worse, murdered.
Please do something for our security on the toll roads from Tijuana to Ensenada and the other roads foreign visitors travel to the interior of Baja
California and the country of Mexico in general. Try to capture the criminals who are either real police officers or people made up to appear to be
police officers who rob, kidnap and kill visitors.
Also help us with the municipal, state and federal police in general so they may improve their professional conduct when they contact foreign visitors
in Baja California. The majority of foreign visitors visiting are well behaved and they come to Mexico because they have love and affection for the
Mexican people. They also come because Mexico is such a beautiful country. If the civilian criminals and certain bad police officers continue
committing these crimes against foreign visitors this will destroy the well-being of Mexico. That is what I think.
Dear Mr. …., I urge you become personally involved in this good work to clean up the bad people in Baja California and Mexico in general and to place
them where they deserve to be. I know you have many responsibilities as (Title of person here), but please also put your attention on the security of
foreign visitors to Baja California and Mexico in general. I want you to know that I am not meddling in Mexican politics. I am just asking for help
with the crimes against good people who visit Mexico.
Thank you very much for your time.
Sincerely
Your name here:
[Edited on 12-2-2007 by ELINVESTI8]
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Frontera.info reports
"Cierran Garita de San Ysidro por amenaza de bomba"
San Yisidro Border closed for Bomb Threat.
At 3:30 p.m. today they closed the San Yisidro Border Crossing after the Americans received a Bomb Threat. All were diverted to the Otay Mesa
Crossing. Everything was opened back up after 1-1/2 hours after determining it was a False Alarm.
Reabren Garita; falsa alarma.
Empty Border Road
[Edited on 12-3-2007 by ELINVESTI8]
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