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BAJACAT
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Yeap ,thats the whole idea Will,plus I need a break too.This will be a good time to test my 6" FABTECH,lift kit,also to deliver some Grills that my
friend build from scrap metal that came out of the Lakeside job, he will be testing his 2008 Tundra with 6" Procomp lift kit....
Ken thanks for the invite, but already have plans, Im leading a 5 car group to HANSON &RANCHO SAN LUIS,I want to visit Hernan in his ranch.
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
Ken thanks for the invite, but already have plans, Im leading a 5 car group to HANSON &RANCHO SAN LUIS,I want to visit Hernan in his ranch.
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Be careful out there. The Pole Line group took an I.F.S. Chevy pickup out into the desert, and its' steering wasn't up to the stress and load of the
heavier 35" tires, and you wouldn't believe the trouble it gave one of the guys.
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David K
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OK, Josh did most of the work this weekend and I took a bunch of photos to share the process... plus some pics of the cool Baja racers in the shop...
Stay tuned!
The bar is now going to get fully welded and polished for the final finish... which could be black or silver paint, or powder coat, or Rhino coating,
or chrome! A final fit on my truck will be next week, then off to whatever shop for the finish...
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David K
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Here are a few photos of the process... it's not a piece of cake!
A back side view of just one of the professional race trucks with tilt up light bar on the roof, at the shop...
Many thanks to Josh for his hard work... and his sister's share for my Father's Day gift!
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Pacifico
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David -
So how are the lights???
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TMW
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Looks like a great job being done.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pacifico
David -
So how are the lights??? |
The bar is not finished, so no lights on and running yet. I just put them on so you could see how they will be mounted and look on the bar... The bar
still needs to be welded fully, then sanded/ smoothed out for a paint/ powder/rhino/ or chrome finish.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
Looks like a great job being done. |
Yes, and even if there are no lights on the bar, it would be a great bumper protector or car pusher... bolted right to the frame with F911 bolts.
Thanks!
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David, looks like a very fine custom job there. Can't wait to see the finished product! Then, will you be able to remove all of this when you get
your new truck in a couple of years?
Bob H
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David K
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Yes, very easy... four bolts connect the bar to the Tacoma frame... The hardest part seemed to be when Josh had to drill the four holes! Toyota has a
hard frame down there... double sheets of metal and weld bead to drill through. That's all done now... just finish work on the bar itself to be done.
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BAJACAT
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 I was told that my ruck will run much better with this set up ( 6"FABTECH Susp,
lift),the truck looks good but it sucks now on off road,I will be calling 4WP tomorrow,my suspention bottoms out with no effort..
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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BAJACAT
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sorry David I didn't mean to highjack your thread..
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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David K
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No worries Jose... A new Fabtech suspension thread is in order, though!
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David K
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Light bar update/ HID explained
Josh has finished welding the bar and I will go to Santee today for the final fit... as welding can change the shape.
To look the best, on my truck, I think a chrome finish will be in order... that takes a week or so to have done... which will be fine, as Baja Angel
and I will be on our vacation.
Yesterday, I installed the switch and wiring for the two lamps and turned them on... they work!
I found an excellent full explanation of HID, online:
HID light sources (xenon and bi-xenon)
HID stands for high-intensity discharge, the technical term for the electric arc that produces the light. Automotive HID lamps are commonly called
'xenon headlamps', although they are actually metal halide lamps that contain xenon gas. The xenon gas allows the lamps to produce minimally adequate
amounts of light immediately upon startup and speed the warmup time. If argon were used instead, as is commonly done in street and other stationary
metal halide lamp applications, it would take several minutes for the lamps to reach their full output. HID headlamps use a small, purpose-designed
burner which produces more light than ordinary tungsten and tungsten-halogen bulbs. The light from HID headlamps has a distinct bluish tint when
compared with tungsten-filament headlamps. The high intensity of the arc comes from metallic salts that are vapourised within the arc chamber.
HID headlamp bulbs produce between 2,800 and 3,500 lumens from between 35 and 38 watts of electrical power, while halogen filament headlamp bulbs
produce between 700 and 2,100 lumens from between 40 and 72 watts at 12.8 V [13][14][15]. Because of the increased amounts of light available from HID
bulbs, HID headlamps producing a given beam pattern can be made smaller than halogen headlamps producing a comparable beam pattern. Alternatively, the
larger size can be retained, in which case the xenon headlamp can produce a more robust beam pattern.
HID headlamp bulbs do not run on low-voltage DC current, so they require a ballast with either an internal or external ignitor. The ballast controls
the current to the bulb. When the headlamps are switched on, the ignitor provides rapidly pulsed current at several thousand volts to initiate the arc
between the electrodes within the bulb. Once the arc is started, its heat begins to vapourise the metallic salts within the arc chamber, and the
ballast gradually transitions from startup operation to arc-maintenance operation. Once the arc is completely stabilised, the ballast provides 85 V in
conventional D1 and D2 systems, or 42 V with mercury-free D3 and D4 systems.
The correlated color temperature of HID headlamp bulbs, at between 4100 K and 4400 K, is often described in marketing literature as being closer to
the 6500 K of sunlight compared with tungsten-halogen bulbs at 3000 K to 3550 K. Nevertheless, HID headlamps' light output is not similar to daylight.
The spectral power distribution (SPD) of an automotive HID headlamp is discontinuous, while the SPD of a filament lamp, like that of the sun, is a
continuous curve. Moreover, the color rendering index (CRI) of tungsten-halogen headlamps (≥0.98) is much closer than that of HID headlamps
(~0.75) to standardised sunlight (1.00). Studies have shown no significant safety effect of this degree of CRI variation in headlighting.
The arc within an HID headlamp bulb generates considerable short-wave ultraviolet (UV) light, but none of it escapes the bulb. A UV-absorbing hard
glass shield is incorporated around the bulb's arc tube. This is important to prevent degradation of UV-sensitive components and materials in
headlamps, such as polycarbonate lenses and reflector hardcoats. The lamps do emit considerable near-UV light.
European vehicles equipped with HID headlamps are required by ECE regulation 48 also to be equipped with headlamp lens cleaning systems and automatic
beam levelling control. Both of these measures are intended to reduce the tendency for high-output headlamps to cause high levels of glare to other
road users.
HID headlamp bulb types D1R, D1S, D2R, D2S and 9500 contain the toxic heavy metal mercury. The disposal of mercury-containing vehicle parts is
increasingly regulated throughout the world, for example under US EPA regulations. Newer HID bulb designs D3R, D3S, D4R, and D4S contain no mercury,
but are not electrically or physically compatible with headlamps designed for previous bulb types.
The arc light source in an HID headlamp is fundamentally different from the filament light source used in tungsten/halogen headlamps. For that reason,
HID-specific optics are used to collect and distribute the light. Installing HID bulbs in headlamps designed to take filament bulbs results in
improperly-focused beam patterns and excessive glare, and is therefore illegal in almost all countries
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Ken Cooke
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I´m on vacation too!
I´m waiting for photos of that MASTERPIECE IN METAL, so keep us posted. Chrome should look great. Stainless, triple nickel plate, too. Just be sure
to take pics!!
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David K
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The fit was good!
The bar fits perfectly... and the lights are awesome (so far)!
Here Josh slides the light bar onto the Tacoma frame... and bolts it on...
Then we mount the lights and flip on the switch!
Compare the HID Xenon light brightness and color to street legal halogen head lights and fog lights...
Josh said they appear just as bright as the same size HID on the Class 1 buggy he has worked on at Raceworks.
Here is the kind of trucks they usually work on at Stewart's Raceworks!
Okay, the bar will get totally sanded and cleaned up, then chromed! Should have something to show you guys in 3 weeks or less! Then let's go to the
desert or Baja!!!
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Those lights will outshine your headlights and fogs by far.
BUMP FOR THE BAJA TOYOTA!
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David K
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Yah, I was impressed... I can't wait to get back from our Vegas/ Yellowstone trip... and see the new light bar on my truck with those zillion
candlepower HIDs blazing!
Hope you are back home safe Ken!
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Josh called to say the bar is back from the chrome shop... I will go to Santee this Saturday to have it installed... stay tuned!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Josh called to say the bar is back from the chrome shop... I will go to Santee this Saturday to have it installed... stay tuned! |
With your two HID lights, your headlamps and fog lamps will have little effect in comparison. It should be fun for you seeing the desert at night!
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