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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by yellowklr
Anyone know the Diesel situation in San Quintin or El Rosario? |
This was in BajaCactus' post (yesterday afternoon), right above yours... "At BajaCactus, we have managed not to run out of any product yet... we have
had a full supply of Magna, Premium and Diesel throughout this crisis..."
'Baja Cactus' is the Pemex in El Rosario...
[Edited on 6-20-2008 by David K]
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Capt. George
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Does anyone know:
Where does the gas/diesel come from to supply points south of Guerro Negro??
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Capt. George
Does anyone know:
Where does the gas/diesel come from to supply points south of Guerro Negro?? |
The petrol for La Paz to Cabo San Lucas and quite possibly north from there comes into the port of La Paz via barge/tanker from the mainland.
CaboRon
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shari
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I believe all gas and deisel around mid baja GN to maybe Sta.Rosalia comes from tanker trucks that come over on the ferry because when the gulf is
rough and the ferries aren't running, we run out of fuel.
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movinguy
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Just remember:
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1919184420080619
You are risking "rampant drug violence" to fill your tank! 
And maybe someone should tell the guy with the pickup truck that they don't usually kidnap poor people . . .
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rdrrm8e
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loboron
What is being over looked with regards to diesel shortages in northern baja is the large vessels lined up and making reservations for fuel at the
Hotel Coral & Marina, the only fuel dock currently in Ensenada.
All the long range boats now stop in Ensenda before going to San Diego to offload. The larger yachts are now coming down just to fuel and then return.
The price per gallon has been averaging $2.27 and the marina can't keep fuel in the ground. It's sold faster than it can be delivered and as a result
they started rationing the amount they would sell to each vessel as of last week. Most of the vessels want to purchase 2-3 thousand gallons or more at
a time.
Last weekend they were out of fuel most of Friday and all day Saturday waiting for a delivery.
With the tuna season approaching it's only going to get worse. With the boats fueling here prior to returning to San Diego there's no way the marina
will be able to keep up, they can't now.
[Edited on 6-17-2008 by Loboron] |
This simply is not true.
A) The long range boats do "Turn around" trips. They hit the dock in Point Loma at 0600, offload passengers, restock, refuel and clean the boat. They
are back out on the next trip by 1:00 pm. It's not logistically feasible to go to Ensenada to refuel.
B) They cannot stop on the way back for a couple of reasons. The first of which is customs and immigration. If they touched land all aboard would have
to clear customs. Ain't gonna happen!
Also they pass Ensenada about 0200. The fuel dock isn't open.
C) Although a couple of boats tried this a couple of times...the Mexican authorities will not sell fuel to these boats.
edit for speeling
[Edited on 6-20-2008 by rdrrm8e]
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BajaGeoff
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I filled up at the Rosarito Pemex yesterday. The line for diesel was a bit longer than for regular fuel, but nothing crazy. The fill cost me 500
pesos, about $30 cheaper than what I would pay up in San Diego.
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Woooosh
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Still no oil tankers off the coast of Rosarito Beach today. It'll be very ugly in TJ if the public buses don't have fuel this weekend.
Does NAFTA allow Mexico to deny the sale of any commodities to Americans? Don't think so. Then again they get away with blocking direct real estate
sales in coastal and border regions to Americans- so who knows?
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Loboron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rdrrm8e
| Quote: | Originally posted by Loboron
What is being over looked with regards to diesel shortages in northern baja is the large vessels lined up and making reservations for fuel at the
Hotel Coral & Marina, the only fuel dock currently in Ensenada.
All the long range boats now stop in Ensenda before going to San Diego to offload. The larger yachts are now coming down just to fuel and then return.
The price per gallon has been averaging $2.27 and the marina can't keep fuel in the ground. It's sold faster than it can be delivered and as a result
they started rationing the amount they would sell to each vessel as of last week. Most of the vessels want to purchase 2-3 thousand gallons or more at
a time.
Last weekend they were out of fuel most of Friday and all day Saturday waiting for a delivery.
With the tuna season approaching it's only going to get worse. With the boats fueling here prior to returning to San Diego there's no way the marina
will be able to keep up, they can't now.
[Edited on 6-17-2008 by Loboron] |
This simply is not true.
A) The long range boats do "Turn around" trips. They hit the dock in Point Loma at 0600, offload passengers, restock, refuel and clean the boat. They
are back out on the next trip by 1:00 pm. It's not logistically feasible to go to Ensenada to refuel.
B) They cannot stop on the way back for a couple of reasons. The first of which is customs and immigration. If they touched land all aboard would have
to clear customs. Ain't gonna happen!
Also they pass Ensenada about 0200. The fuel dock isn't open.
C) Although a couple of boats tried this a couple of times...the Mexican authorities will not sell fuel to these boats.
edit for speeling
[Edited on 6-20-2008 by rdrrm8e] |
Although the "Long Range" boats, the few that have stopped are not returning since they're adding fuel sur-charges now, and there is nothing illeagal
about them purchasing fuel. When they unloaded passengers in Cabo San Lucas they used to purchase fuel at the cannery prior to their voyage home. I
was there.
I live up on the hill over looking the marina and I monitor the VHF. I have seen a dozen of the daily fishing boats here last week and the week prior
filling up. I used to run those boats and still know several of the Captains who call and ask about availability of the fuel.
Last week several large yachts came down with the specific intention of purchasing fuel along with several boats from the "Sport Fleet" from the
landings. The "Searcher" was the last boat I observed before the marina stopped selling.
The marina, as I mentioned couldn't keep fuel in the ground due to the demand. Since running out last weekend and only receiving a partial load, they
have stopped selling fuel to none tenants. Now they ration the fuel to tenants and the local sport fleet from downtown that come to the marina.
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Bajajack
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I dont now about TJ but a lot of hostile talk in Mexicali for limiting foreign plated vehicles "that means us" to no more than 100P, no more fillups.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
I dont now about TJ but a lot of hostile talk in Mexicali for limiting foreign plated vehicles "that means us" to no more than 100P, no more fillups.
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"Hostile talk" from Gringos on AM Radio, or where? 
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
I dont now about TJ but a lot of hostile talk in Mexicali for limiting foreign plated vehicles "that means us" to no more than 100P, no more fillups.
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A lot of Mexicans driving foreign plated vehicles (with expired registrations) are going to be out of luck.
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BornFisher
Last two afternoons (Wed & Thurs), there has been about a 30 car line for gas at the station in Cantamar. Backs up to near the Palms bar and
grill! They do have two pumps shut down and that may be causing the lines!
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All the more reason to get into Palms and drink all afternoon. Remember to get your car washed across the street. Before getting in the line, go
about 1/4 mile further south and get a fish taco from Mariscos Alegria and then return to wait in line. Things will go better.
Now let's hear from the ones who stalk my posts and give me a fire and brimstone lecture.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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bancoduo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
All the more reason to get into Palms and drink all afternoon. Remember to get your car washed across the street. Before getting in the line, go
about 1/4 mile further south and get a fish taco from Mariscos Alegria and then return to wait in line. Things will go better.
Now let's hear from the ones who stalk my posts and give me a fire and brimstone lecture. |
Is that the Palms
that you referred to on another thread as refuge for "OLD UGLY ALCOHOLICS". CHEERS! 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
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A lot of Mexicans driving foreign plated vehicles (with expired registrations) are going to be out of luck. |
I'm sure their secret code ring or the hand shake will work in these circumstances. Maybe the US should only sell gas to people who speak English.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I'm sure their secret code ring or the hand shake will work in these circumstances. Maybe the US should only sell gas to people who speak English.
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It's OK. I live in Ensenada.....I have an FM-3...
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Ken Cooke
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Here's the latest from today's news on this topic:
Gas Stations await fuel delivery of diesel fuel
The scramble for diesel fuel continued south of the border as fewer and fewer stations had supplies to keep public transportation moving and big
trucks delivering goods. The problem began last weekend as a flood of U.S. drivers bought up lower-cost Mexican fuel and caused some stations to
restrict sales to regular customers.
200,000 Tijuana bus riders face cancellations
TIJUANA – At least 200,000 bus riders faced cancellations of routes Thursday as public transit companies scrambled to find diesel.
$2.50 Gasoline Causing Chaotic Traffic Scenarios At BorderTIJUANA, Mex. - A rush to the U.S.-Mexico border to buy gasoline at half price is
causing chaotic traffic scenarios and leading many fueling stations' tanks to run dry.
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bancoduo
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
All the more reason to get into Palms and drink all afternoon. Remember to get your car washed across the street. Before getting in the line, go
about 1/4 mile further south and get a fish taco from Mariscos Alegria and then return to wait in line. Things will go better.
Now let's hear from the ones who stalk my posts and give me a fire and brimstone lecture. |
Is that the Palms
that you referred to on another thread as refuge for "OLD UGLY ALCOHOLICS". CHEERS! |
Stalker
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Bajafun777
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Here is what happening in Mexicali, Tuesday June 17th at 9:30pm all the Premex stations in Mexicali out of diesel. On Wednesday at 10:30 am new truck
loads with it. Now, today at 5:30pm out of diesel again and it is only Friday. Talk of Mexican government not letting anyone get any fuel unless
they can prove they are living in the Mexico area they are getting either gas or diesel. The other talk is the Mexican government is going to limit
sales to 45 gallons on diesel and no more. The problem down here in Mexicali is the farmers in U.S. and Trucking firms in U.S. are sending their
semi-trucks and trucks that take in over 150 gallons at one time and some sending them two or three times a day. This is making it very difficult for
the mexicans and those of us that fuel up and actually buy dinner, see doctors, dentists, tile, clothes,etc. to where we will lose out on any bargains
on fuel while doing these things. Hell, I even take my dogs down there to a really good Vet. Some people just let their greed make things rough for
everyone. If Mexico stops Americans from getting diesel then they will lose in other sales along with it. I think the 45 gallon limit would be a
better approach to American licensed vehicles. Will just wait and see how this developes. Mexico has to be careful on their approach to this as
NAFTA is at stake as a lot of people want to do away with it, and this thing works both way very little anyway and slapping the tourist and visitor
could really be the nail in the coffin for both sides. Hope that does not happen. Fernando what have you heard on this issue??????
Later-------------------------------------- bajafun777
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
I dont now about TJ but a lot of hostile talk in Mexicali for limiting foreign plated vehicles "that means us" to no more than 100P, no more fillups.
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Finally people have a reason to visit mexico and spend some money at the local am/pm. It would be just like the same old stuck-on-stupid country to
limit gas sales to Americans and then complain that toursit numbers are down even more.
doh!
BTW... Saturday morning and still no PeMex tankers in Rosarito unloading fuel. It's gonna be gridlock and paralysis in TJ Monday. My nephew tells me
there are lines of public buses an d trucks parked at gas stations in Otay waiting for fuel delivery- no fuel no transportation. School is out here
though (primary and secondary) so no school busses taking gas. Hey--- what school busses??? never mind...
Even when the tanker arrives trhere is only one pipeline to offload the fuel- and it only handles a fixed amount of flow. If they had several tankers
lined up to unload, it would do no good as there's only one connection. It'll take many days to get the gas out to stations even after the flow
begins...
[Edited on 6-21-2008 by Woooosh]
[Edited on 6-21-2008 by Woooosh]
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