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standingwave
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Shari, I wrote yesterday suggesting one of those aluminum snorkel stoves for heating the tub. Did you ever see those in BC? They submerge except for
the air intake, the firebox door and the stove pipe and work fine as long as the fire box is always under water. If too many people get in and
displace too much water over the edge and then all get out without filling the tub you can have a problem if the firebox is exposed - it can distort,
melt, etc. The other disadvantage is that they are fuel hogs - not a problem in fuel rich BC but that's why I didn't send this yesterday - thinking
where in the heck would they get enough fuel to run it economically. But perhaps there are viable alternatives - pressed bricks of Martillo's
contributions? 
anyways, just a thought...
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David K
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>>> diver
"25 years professional experience" AND you had to look it up on the internet???? <<<
Bob and Susan... before getting any more down on Diver, why don't you put your own advice to work on that irrigation system and change it out to a
quality one? Seems you went first class on everything else... but who did you get advice from when you used gate valves and fifty nine cent
sprinklers?
It's not too late to correct it, and my help is free... On site consultation available too... Do you have an idea where we could stay in your part of
Baja?
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
guadalupe hot tubs clean?? what an oxymarooon. i bet the only cleaning they get is because they are probably on a constant inflow outflow piped system
from the springs that feed them.
only a guess tho, never been there just read about it and saw the incriminating pix posted here for years.
looked pretty un sanitary to me.
is it sulpher based water? does sulphuric acid act as a cleaning agent? |
Mike, please work with facts and common sense... Have you ever camped at Guadalupe Canyon? I think not since there's no airport or air conditioning
there... Seriously, when a guest leaves, the tub is drained and scrubbed down with bleach then left empty to bake in the heat of the desert sun until
refilled the day the next guest arrives... usually several days later. Do you think that people (women specially) would want to keep coming back if it
wasn't sanitary? The water has no typical sulfur smell found at most hot springs.
The last time we were there, before we drove away, they were entering our camp with the bleach and brush bucket, and rake and trash bag.
We drain the tub before we leave... a nice addition we noticed last time was a ball valve on the drain pipe. Before a sand filled zip lock baggie
served as a stopper!
[Edited on 6-29-2008 by David K]
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Cypress
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Seems to me that Bob and Susan are just trying to be helpful.
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David K
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>>> Seems to me that Bob and Susan are just trying to be helpful <<<
Yes, as is Diver... only it isn't nice to slam friendly and freely given advice, is it?
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Seems to me that Bob and Susan are just trying to be helpful.
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capt. mike
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ok DK i stand corrected on their, GC's, "resort" facilities maintenance procedures, but if that constitutes a sanitary condition they'd never get a
county health department operating permit as even a semi public (HOA type) operation let alone a full public facility at fee license.  
and no - i haven't been there. and from the trip reports i have read i have no urgent desire to go either. but i am glad you and others enjoy it, why
not?
as far as Bob Frambes' abilities re developing and engineering a self contained for the most part and off grid resort - most here couldn't carry his
briefcase.
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bajamigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Seems to me that Bob and Susan are just trying to be helpful.
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I vote for "helpful." It seems to me that Bob is trying very hard to help Shari avoid some regrettable mistakes. What may be coming across as strident
is in truth passionate. He's just trying really hard to help.
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bajaguy
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Hot tub/spa
Avoid the hassle:
http://www.skymall.com/shopping/detail.htm?pid=69695486&...
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bajamigo
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Boy, I sure hope one of these shows up at the Golf Course pretty soon!!
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Bob and Susan
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i really have not intentions to put down shari and her hot tub...
and i wish her all the luck in building a hot tub...
i am very very sorry shari if i have offended you in ANY way...
be assured I am NO expert at anything!!!
and i NEVER will say i am...
but things need to done correctly...
i a year when all is done shari will be advertising that the bed and breakfast includes a "romp" in the hot tub...
without chemicals and without the correct plumbing people will be VERY dissapointed when they arrive from canada...
after spending $4000 usa to get there....
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JaraHurd
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I seriously doubt anyone is going to drive from Canada to Bahia A. to romp in a hot tub. I am sure both Shari and Bahia have a lot more to offer...If
they are disappointed it will more likely have something to do with the fish not biting or poor visibility on a dive....
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajamigo
Boy, I sure hope one of these shows up at the Golf Course pretty soon!!
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Within the next two years.......
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
i really have not intentions to put down shari and her hot tub...
i a year when all is done shari will be advertising that the bed and breakfast includes a "romp" in the hot tub...
without chemicals and without the correct plumbing people will be VERY dissapointed when they arrive from canada...
after spending $4000 usa to get there.... |
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
geez, all I wanted was one of those old claw foot tubs I could put outside and build a fire under it for a soothing hot bath with a view now and
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Cabin fever setting in ??
Relax Bob, you're in Baja ??
(Just thought I'd try again !)
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Bob and Susan
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David
"but who did you get advice from when you used gate valves and fifty nine cent sprinklers?"
you are an "expert" and if i've done something wrong i NEED to know
but...
i've ALWAYS put some kind of shut-off valve (gate valve) before the electric anti-shipon valves....otherwise how do you fix them when you have a
problem without shuting down the entire complex
you DON"T !!!!
how do your customers repair the units later????
plastic glue needs 24 hours to cure when you glue parts together otherwise you get "leaks"
what is better????
oh yea i ONLY spent 57 cents each on my plastic sprinklers...not 59 cents
are you still mad that i think a $12 anti siphon valve will work as well as a $29 commercial unit with normal household use???
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place to stay????...
here on the internet with ALL nomads as a witness...
for you ONLY david...
if you get married here in mulege to your "angel"....
your stay is FREE (up to 5 days)
and all available casitas are yours with breakfast
ok???
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longlegsinlapaz
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Before I came to La Paz, I had a spa for 22 consecutive years....I gotta say I totally agree with Bob, and I didn't read any of his posts as anything
but factual & trying to save Shari & Juan a lot of cost, labor & miserable surprises!! If you have no plans to use chlorine or bromine
tables to sanitize the water and don't plan to have a filtration system which filters all the water in the tub once every 24-hours, you're going to
end up with really foul unsanitary water....UNLESS you plan on replacing all the water each use. The more bodies in it, the faster
the water will go bad...all the dead skin sloughing off all those people stays in the water, along with lotions, deodorant, hairspray,
perfumes....anything anyone might have on their body, including BO & other dirt or filth....you & anyone using the tub will be getting the
full effect!! Then it splashes in your face or you rub your eyes or wipe your mouth....I think you get the picture. Not to mention being a mosquito breeding ground!
IMHO, Bob's not dumping on you or being negative, he's trying to be a good friend by attempting to advise you of the pitfalls in your plan!!
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Pescador
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Actually I have run my hot tub for the last 8 years with only Clorox, the key is watching the concentrations. The problem with using PH strips is
that they are also affected by other dissolved chemicals in the water, it is much better to use Chlorine detection stips or a chemical chlorine
indicator. Since I am the licensed water operator for our water system in the development where we live in Colorado, I put in a system that uses a
50% Clorox solution to disinfect the drinking water and have used it for the last 5 years after getting approval by the State to install the system.
We used chlorine gas before that which was a total disaster and we almost lost a volunteer operator when we developed a leak. In swimming pools we
generally use chlorine tablets but I have helped install pools where they used liquid also. It all depends on the concentration.
So in Shari's case, it looks like a small pool and if I knew the approximate size, I could come up with a dose amount that would be safe and
effective.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Seems to me that Bob and Susan are just trying to be helpful.
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I would say, helpful----not critical. I agree with his advice --- all of it.
If anyone has ever seem what can happen to a swimming pool in a few days without filtration and chemicals, or to a hot tub----it is really awful, and
dangerous to one's health. It quickly becomes a concrete swamp. 
If it is drained every day---that is different.
And frankly, I don't think it is a difference between gringo and Mexican standards, or being cool. Just common health considerations.
Diane
[Edited on 6-29-2008 by jdtrotter]
[Edited on 6-29-2008 by jdtrotter]
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David K
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Bob and Susan... that sounds great... Thanks... Angel and I are close to that point.
>>> "you are an "expert" and if i've done something wrong i NEED to know
but...
i've ALWAYS put some kind of shut-off valve (gate valve) before the electric anti-shipon valves....otherwise how do you fix them when you have a
problem without shuting down the entire complex
you DON"T !!!!
how do your customers repair the units later????
plastic glue needs 24 hours to cure when you glue parts together otherwise you get "leaks"
what is better????" <<<
Bob: I always install a BALL VALVE before the irrigation control valves if there isn't one there or easily accessable... because there could be a
reason to seperate the system from the property water supply... for a repair or addition. What gave you the idea I didn't?
Some Nomads may not agree with my politics or how I like to enjoy Baja or my choice in trucks... but be assured, I am very good with my irrigation
work... and I do believe in using the best products for the need, without going overboard. A $15-18 valve is worth the extra to pay for than your
$12.00 valve... and I told you where to get it, cheaper than the big parking lot building home stores (that sell them for over $25)!
I can turn on the water often in as little as 10 minutes when the joints are coated correctly and bottomed out, and using a strong blue cement.. never
have leaks... even when the water won't totally shut off. I use Christy's Red Hot Blue Glue... never has failed me... when other's brand wet 'r dry
glue has.
Again, I am happy to help... even without a Honeymoon casita! 
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Bob and Susan
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david
to shut off the water for a repair...
what is the differance between a gate valve and a ball valve???
i use Christy's Red Hot Blue Glue and primer but i've ALWAYS been told to let it cure onernight if under a load...
not correct????
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