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Bruce R Leech
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I wonder why we haven't heard anything From Bob and Susan? they live right in sight of this Beach. I hope they are OK. My guess is Bob will know more
about this but it could be that he shold sty silent.
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Bruce R. Leech, You're dead on. Hope they're not having to stock up on fire extinguishers.
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Bobs property is titled and separate from plia Ariana but still they are close.
Bob if you are out their let us know you are OK
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
| Quote: | Originally posted by tsgarcia69
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
This one's on the house tsgarcia69 this dose not work when the land owner is renting you the land and paying all the taxes. if he cancels your lease
you have 3 months to leave if your lease expires you have 30 days after he gives you notice. if you try to homestead you will be sorry.
do you really think the laws you posted apply in this case or were you posting them for some other thread
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Well, for one thing, you just changed the criteria. In the case which is the subject of this thread, the landowner was no longer renting the land to
those who possessed it, in fact, it may not even be the same land owner. For seconds, there probably was no written lease, just a handshake deal with
monthly payments. And for thirds, I would like you to be a good fellow and post the source of your information, chapter and verse, just like I did for
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so your interruption of the law is anyone renting a house for five years and stays on good terms with there land lord gets to keep the house |
Bruce,
It is well known that the laws vary but allow for mexican people to squat and over time maintain rights. This is apparent as very powerful mexican
people can not get people off of the land that was previously theirs. For example, in La Paz the owner's of CCC have tons of property they can not
reclaim because squatters can prove they have been there for some period, either 5 years or more. They do not have utilities nor pay rent or taxes and
their is no way to legally remove them. They have even been offered complete homes with doors and windows in trade in regions away from the ones they
are squatting on. They refuse since they prefer to be near the water in el centro where they can live off fish and handouts.
This presents serious problems since they will never improve their property, nor pay for utilities or pay taxes yet they remain. There are even people
who squatted in the street blocking the road but they can not be removed by even the most powerful people.
Those are the facts which have historical origins, not unlike the USA where a person can pay property for 5 years and claim any property they access.
For example a person may use an easement over your land and in short-time you will lose it. This is the law and has a powerful history in Mexico and
California for good reason I am sure.
In fact where I live many people have followed the history you describe, they rented shacks when people left, those people haven't returned and now 5
and ten years later the renters have title to their property simply by possession and payment of utilities and taxes. This is why people must maintain
their historical utility receipts in mexico they are very important and powerful.
Consider that you might be unaware of Mexico's historical land rights which by the way are written about often in reference to conflicts, such as the
one we are discussing now.
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Taxes??? You're kidding, right?
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
this dose not work when the land owner is renting you the land and paying all the taxes. |
I'd be willing to bet there were NO valid leases...ever. None legally drawn, or recorded, or taxes paid on rental income, or legal receipts (facturas)
given. Legally, these renters weren't renters...but squatters.
In any case it really doesn't matter...
'Cause they're gringos. 
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I was just looking at photos from the fire and nothing is left. if anyone wants me to forward in email photos u2u me with email address
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Bruce R Leech
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the point is these folks were not squatters so none of this applies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Bruce R. Leech, You're dead on. Hope they're not having to stock up on fire extinguishers. |
It is kind of strange that Bob has never said anything about this situation. also Edith just came back up from Mulege yesterday and she heard nothing
about the fire.
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Bruce R Leech, Strange? Yep! 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by baja Steve
I was just looking at photos from the fire and nothing is left. if anyone wants me to forward in email photos u2u me with email address
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Why don't you just post them ?????????
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just rec'd the fotos from steve. assuming (dangerous) that he can't post fotos i have a few of them.....what a bummer....
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we're fine...
just not talking...
pretty big show...
lots of explosions...
lots of flames
we were up from 12-3am watching
we wached from the lighthouse...
punta arena is 2 miles away as the crow flies
had a few ashes in the pool...
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woody in ob, Thanks for the picture. A picture is worth a bunch of words, maybe a
thousand or two. No appliances, boats, vehicles, no anything, only ashes. Looks like somebody's beach camp burned down.
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woody in ob, My apologies. The latest photos paint a sinister picture.
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Bob and Susan, Good luck with all your trials and tribulations.Ya'll have a
beautiful place down there.
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