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[*] posted on 12-4-2008 at 09:25 PM





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[*] posted on 12-4-2008 at 09:56 PM


Great Job Ken, enjoyed the photos and I would not even try climbing over those rocks!!!! Beach, San Dunes, and things like that are my speed. Later-------- bajafun777



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[*] posted on 12-4-2008 at 10:00 PM


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Great Job Ken, enjoyed the photos and I would not even try climbing over those rocks!!!! Beach, San Dunes, and things like that are my speed. Later-------- bajafun777


Try getting stuck at the tree dead center on Thanksgiving day! That is the tree that nearly sank my Rubicon. I choked the engine, and couldn't go ANYWHERE as a result. It was fun, but the interior still needs cleaning out.




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[*] posted on 12-4-2008 at 10:43 PM


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You should see how damaged my tire carrier is. I never thought I could break a Garvin Wilderness rack. :!:


Ken-----What in the world did you hit to break that tire carrier?-----it is WAY off the ground. (???)

That incident sounds like a "story" in itself.

I am bettin I could get my "off road" model, lifted, and with rear locker Nissan X-terra in there ok. What do you think?? If David K got his Toyota in there, I can get my rig in---right?? I also have a front and rear warn 9500 winch, so could even pull you (or myself) out of the mud hole. :lol:

It drives me nuts when crazy folks burn those palms---I have seen so much of that over the many years----it occasionally is done by lightning, but most often by vandals. Knotheads!!

Love that incredible "rock garden" country!!

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[*] posted on 12-4-2008 at 11:22 PM


Barry, with a rear locker and 31"+ tires, you are in business. The mud was deep in some of those swamp sections, and what you couldn't see was what messed you up the most.

The Garvin Wilderness Rack system was damaged by the nonstop Baja dirt roads. These roads literally destroyed the "bulletproof" Wildnerness Rack. 2 filled Gerry cans, a filled Coleman Extreme Cooler, a 33" TrXus MT tire and a Hi-Lift jack did this rack in. 5 years of use, but thankfully, no abuse have virtually killed this rack.

This Wildnerness Rack system pulled TW across the streets of Mexicali in '07.

This Wildnerness Rack has become a serious part of my Baja travels since I bought the Jeep in 2003 for the purpose of seeing Baja on a more regular basis.




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[*] posted on 12-5-2008 at 08:12 AM


Thanks for the additional photos Ken... The gas dealer at Cataviņa, the road to Mision Santa Maria, and your group...

Barry, you will have no problem going in... it is a just take it really slow road... Allow 3 hours for the 15 miles (with photo stops)... seriously! I have been over that road 6 times (3 trips, round trip) and 2 1/2 hours is a fast time!:light::o

Baja Angel really liked it as a 20 year CJ-5 Renegade owner, who has driven the Rubicon (the road near Tahoe, not the Wrangler model) saying the road to Santa Maria is the closest thing to a challange like the Rubicon she has seen in Baja.

Here's The Squarecircle's new Land Rover LR3 coming down the 'Widowmaker' near the mission... some natives who visited us the next morning, us at the mission, and my truck going back up it a couple days later! (more photos at http://vivabaja.com/msm )









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[*] posted on 12-5-2008 at 07:52 PM


Ken is SMM included it for next year, or are you thinking only San Borja



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[*] posted on 12-5-2008 at 08:03 PM
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Ken is SMM included it for next year, or are you thinking only San Borja


I want to visit San Felipe (1 night), Gonzaga Bay (2 nights), LA Bay (1 night), San Borja (1 night), Mission Santa Maria (1 night), El Rosario (1 night).

San Felipe had great shopping, and it was a great place to stock up on supplies/have dinner.

Everyone had so much fun fishing in Gonzaga Bay, that this would be a great place to focus more time next year.

LA Bay has an Internet Cafe, a great restaurant in town, and the beaches are stellar.

San Borja needs to be seen & experienced at a slow pace.

Mission Santa Maria will get 1 night (Thanksgiving), and El Rosario (guess where??).




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[*] posted on 12-5-2008 at 08:44 PM


COOL.



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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 10:34 AM


Good plan Ken!

You think anyone is up for a hike on the El Camino Real near Gonzaga (to or towards Mision Santa Maria)?




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Good plan Ken!

You think anyone is up for a hike on the El Camino Real near Gonzaga (to or towards Mision Santa Maria)?


Russ wanted to check it out. The rest of us were tired, and Tomra wanted to put on a show with his Jeep on the rocks at the end of the road.

I want to do a hike there next year. Hopefully, the weather will hold up next year, and we can locate that Camino Real. The last 2 years were very "iffy" with regard to dark storm clouds and windy/cold weather.




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[*] posted on 1-4-2009 at 09:37 AM


Post resurrection here.

Ken, when you arrived at the oasis and started through the wet spot, you imply it was nasty. I was there in March and while it was its usual wet, the only obstacle I had was a palm log across the trail. I was unable to move it, and finally just went around it. Had the trail become more dug out with deeper mud holes?




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Had the trail become more dug out with deeper mud holes?


The trail had a little bit of mud in it, but mainly the holes contained more water from 2 previous nights of rains which soaked the ground and added to the water level.



This was the location where my front tire got stuck on an underwater root and the rear tire dug in really deep. The Jeep nearly flopped itself over on its side, and the exhaust couldn't exhale here. It was a bad situation that I thought would have left me stranded. Thankfully, that wasn't the case.




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In May, 2007, it was totally dry... my other times in (May-1999, April-2003) it was very wet, under water!



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[*] posted on 1-10-2009 at 11:32 PM


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In May, 2007, it was totally dry... my other times in (May-1999, April-2003) it was very wet, under water!


The ground was fairly saturated in late Nov. due to all of the storm activity in the area. This had lots to do with me getting stuck on that tree root.




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[*] posted on 2-23-2009 at 12:54 AM


Sorry to revive this old post, but I wanted to ask you guys (Ken, David, or anybody else who has been there recently - Mission Santa Maria), if there are any major water crossings? I will be there next weekend on a motorcycle and would like to know what to prepare for. Ken, it looks like the the place that got you stuck might be sketchy (staying dry) for a motorcycle, or was it just raining there? Any input greatly appreciated...thanks. I have been planning to visit MSM for quite some time now (3-4 years) but it never seem to work out, but this next weekend it will happen...he.he
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[*] posted on 2-23-2009 at 06:38 AM
World exclusive! Here is the lost video footage of the Baja Grande 2008







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Sorry to revive this old post, but I wanted to ask you guys (Ken, David, or anybody else who has been there recently - Mission Santa Maria), if there are any major water crossings? I will be there next weekend on a motorcycle and would like to know what to prepare for. Ken, it looks like the the place that got you stuck might be sketchy (staying dry) for a motorcycle, or was it just raining there? Any input greatly appreciated...thanks. I have been planning to visit MSM for quite some time now (3-4 years) but it never seem to work out, but this next weekend it will happen...he.he


The only water crossing is the 'bog' where Ken stuck his Jeep (in 2WD)... that is less than a mile from the mission... after you drop down the 'widowmaker' grade into the first palm oasis.

My first time through was May, 1999 with Baja Mur... He was on a motorcycle and I was on a quad. There was NO PROBLEM for either of us riding through the water and reeds in the bog... the only question was where was the road? We just continued straight through the palms until we saw the track leading out of the water to the right.

See the 1999 photos... http://www.vivabaja.com/missionsm/

and many more here on Mur's page: http://bajamur.homestead.com/index.html

and the Gonzaga Bay side to the mission (Mur's page): http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/cove/6849/santamaria1.ht...

On the peninsular divide (9.9 miles from Santa Ynez):


In the bog on a m/c:


Mur ran out of gas (2 stroke bike really uses up the fuel fast!) and I has a tow strap in my back pack (Baja experienced)!:



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