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k-rico
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I'm glad to see so many enlightened people on this message board. The obvious solution to the illegal drug problem is crystal clear, make them legal!
One wonders why others can't see the simple-minded logic.
As toneart said: "When we talk of trying legalization, we are talking about taking away the profit motive."
Legal businesses are all about profit.
Another toneart snippet: "What is happening in Mexico is an organized insurrection by killer thugs who have no national allegiance, no morality and
are motivated by greed."
Well, how about this: "What happened on Wall Street was an organized LEGAL insurrection by self motivated bankers who have no national allegiance, no
morality and are motivated by greed."
Shari said toneart is very articulate. So is MrBillM who is advocating murdering Obama. So much for being a good wordsmith.
Therefore, let's legalize drugs.
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Seriously folks, what do you mean by legalizing addictive, dangerous drugs? How would that be implemented?
[Edited on 12-11-2008 by k-rico]
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Eugenio
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
I'm glad to see so many enlightened people on this message board. The obvious solution to the illegal drug problem is crystal clear, make them legal!
One wonders why others can't see the simple-minded logic.
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...and when the cartels and gangs switch to kidnapping and demanding "protection money" from people and businesses we'll just make that legal too...
Gosh - how simple. It's all so crystal clear to me now - why couldn't I see that before...
(Don't start the drug-crimes-are-victimless-crimes argument with me. I've seen too much. Our kids deserve better.)
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Dave
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C'mon, let's get real
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Between the government and the enemy, who has the most soldiers, the most guns, the most money? Has anybody seen intel or qualified opinions in
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Mexico has a 230,000 standing army with modern automatic weapons, granade launchers, mortars, 105 howitzers, anti-tank missles and tanks.
They got armored personnel carriers, helicopters and jets.
Who do you think has the most toys? 
BTW, welcome back.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Can I just say this; AND, NO this is not a finger pointing statement to anyone in particular; BUT, if someone uses illicit drugs; which, we all know
are being moved by the drug cartels, then those people who uses those drugs are guilty of helping perpetuate the continuing killings that are
on-going. Those people may not have pulled the trigger but they sure use the drug product for which the murders are committed.
NOTE: LEGALIZATION WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM EITHER.
[Edited on 12-11-2008 by ELINVESTI8]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Mexico has a 230,000 standing army
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BTW, welcome back. |
That's a lot of people in uniform but, it still misses the question. How many can the cartels with their affiliates put in the trenches, all with
bad attitude and no inscriptions? If they were to organize an alliance, well, it's a scarey thought.
Thanks. Good to be back.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
with modern automatic weapons, granade launchers, mortars, 105 howitzers, anti-tank missles and tanks. They got armored personnel carriers,
helicopters and jets.
Who do you think has the most toys?
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Allow me to expand my thoughts here........All these toys are impressive but, useless if they don't know where to aim them. At this point, the
government weapon of choice should be pure and simple torture. Questions need to be answered assuming real questions are allowed to be asked. If
the intel problem were farmed out to the KGB, a directory of participants would be on the table in thirty days.
Only my opinions...
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
How many can the cartels with their affiliates put in the trenches, all with bad attitude and no inscriptions? |
Committed fighters that would stand up to an organized force? Dozens, perhaps a hundred. These guys wouldn't even make respectable revolutionaries.
They're cowards.
The point was that against a modern armed force there would be no contest. Mexico could level TJ if it wanted. Encircle neighborhoods, house to house
searches. It would be over in weeks.
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toneart
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Hey, K-rico,
Can I get all that in cyber space without participating in criminal activity or addiction?....a kind of virtual, sensual theme park? Where do I stand
in line for the glasses and the software?   
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
They're cowards.
The point was that against a modern armed force there would be no contest. Mexico could level TJ if it wanted. Encircle neighborhoods, house to house
searches. It would be over in weeks. |
They may be cowards but, they are effective and through terrorism they're scoring heavily. Ché did it, Geronimo gave it a good shot, Fidel did it,
Ortega did it, Khomeni did it and many others did it, all facing insurmountable odds and armament. What they lack here is widespread organization.
That the scumbags still compete with one another for the same prize is working well for the government.
Surround and cleanse Tijuana? Good idea but, since they don't were insignias or nametags, who do you approach?
This conversation is better suited for your bar with my credit card.
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Dave
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Credit card?
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This conversation is better suited for your bar with my credit card. |
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
How many can the cartels with their affiliates put in the trenches, all with bad attitude and no inscriptions? |
Committed fighters that would stand up to an organized force? Dozens, perhaps a hundred. These guys wouldn't even make respectable revolutionaries.
They're cowards.
The point was that against a modern armed force there would be no contest. Mexico could level TJ if it wanted. Encircle neighborhoods, house to house
searches. It would be over in weeks. |
So Dave,
Why wouldn't Mexico want to encircle TJ? They have, haven't they? With all that organized government firepower, why are the cartels still creating so
much mayhem and death?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Credit card? |
Sorry...I meant out-of-state two party checks.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Toneart because the Mexican government must still adhere to the constitution. Once they suspend it they can go house to house street by street block
by block and rancho by rancho and route out the bad guys. Until then status quo.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
They may be cowards but, they are effective and through terrorism they're scoring heavily. Ché did it, Geronimo gave it a good shot, Fidel did it,
Ortega did it |
You don't see 'em shooting up any army checkpoints, do ya?
Fidel & Ché were professional revolutionaries. These guys are common thugs. The only reason why they're killing civilians and cops is 'cause they
have better weapons, it's easy and they stand a good chance of getting away with it. They wouldn't last 3 minutes in a firefight against trained
military personnel.
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Dave
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Because they haven't used it
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With all that organized government firepower, why are the cartels still creating so much mayhem and death? |
The checkpoints are a joke. Everyone knows where they are. Hell, even I know how to avoid them. The army has yet to use any
appreciable force against the cartels. Why they don't is anybody's guess.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Fidel & Ché were professional revolutionaries.
These guys are common thugs. The only reason why they're killing civilians and cops is 'cause they have better weapons, it's easy and they stand a
good chance of getting away with it. They wouldn't last 3 minutes in a firefight against trained military personnel. |
How many revolutions were they involved in before Cuba? I don't know but, I thought it was their first and being professional, who paid them?
Isn't that like being a mercenary? I thought their purpose ran deeper.
As far as the three minute firefight collecting the garbage, that's probably why they'll avoid that when at all possible. We can't forget the
effectivness of Guerilla warfare in Nam, speaking of viability against a muscle-bound fighting force.
I don't think it's in anybody's best interest to underestimate these people so, that being said, how about a thirty day running tab? I'll bet you
give those out to everybody.
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Dave
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It depends...
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how about a thirty day running tab? I'll bet you give those out to everybody. |
On how fast you can run.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Depends on how fast you can run. |
And, that would depend on where I last ate.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Toneart because the Mexican government must still adhere to the constitution. Once they suspend it they can go house to house street by street block
by block and rancho by rancho and route out the bad guys. Until then status quo. |
Of course! Thank you. 
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Toneart, I realize it was a rhetorical question!
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