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oladulce
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pacside
Yea geez way to rain on my parade you guys...
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Sorry, I should have clarifed that my comment wasn't directed at you pacside. Just pointing out how I've developed a different mindset since we've
embarked on our remote Baja building adventure and I don't see things like I used to.
I'm working on our house plans as we speak, and I think of everything nowadays in terms of how many solar panels it'll cost
us.
Can't use just any ol' light fixture and gone are the days of plugging in whatever I want without knowing how many watts it uses.
I insist on a bathtub though- even if it's just an extra deep shower pan with a slow moving drain. (Water delivery is my husband's department)
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Russ
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pacside
Russ - nice crib you have there. I still don't know understand why you say to double size of garage/bodega....imo less is better. Less to upkeep, less
to keep the bugs out etc. I assume you want to park a car and all your other toys si? So what is your optimum size for a bodega? I was originally
thinking 14' x 20'.
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Pacside, I'm not sure of you needs for garage space will be of course. However I try to think resale also in my design. 14x20 would be enough for one
car and some cabinets along one side. 20' isn't deep enough for an extra cab p/u or 21' boat and trailer though. So here's my thought for minimal
needs you may have. 14x28x14high should give you room for a car, an area to use as a work area for crafts/hobbies and your solar system. And a loft to
store things. You could beef up part of the loft and put your water holding tank and pump up higher and out of site. I put 3' deep shelving along one
side at 7' above floor level and above 2' deep Home depot cabinets. All my storm shutters, window screens, when not needed, paint supplies, seldom
used kitchen stuff, folding tables and chairs and a lot of other things seem to end up up there. I could send some pics and more rambling on about
what I've encountered if you U2U me an E-mail address.
I really like what you've done! The tub is a wonderful idea for cold days you just can't seem to get the chill off. I can imagine a stormy day with
a glass of good red and looking out at a stormy sea. Maybe some good tunes. Enjoy!
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Bob and Susan
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yea oladulce i always ruin a "dream"
with THAT water thing
the "love tub" is what sells a house though...
the "wife" looks at the tub and the house is sold!!!
then
NEVER uses the thing...too much trouble to fill and clean
it's the dream NOT the reality
if you dont have city water now dont "hold you breath"
this IS mexico
solar electricty...well...welcome to the club
how do you "power up" now?
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BajaBruceFan
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Beautiful home pacside - congratulations!
Just wondering who your builder was....
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capitolkat
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also- would you be willing to share the approximate costs per sqare foot for the construction? I'm gathering bids for work in La Paz and would like to
have some comparisons. thanks-- Norm
Life is too short to drink bad wine
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capitolkat
also- would you be willing to share the approximate costs per sqare foot for the construction? I'm gathering bids for work in La Paz and would like to
have some comparisons. thanks-- Norm |
check your u2u
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BajaGringo
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Congratulations on the new Baja pad. Wishing you many, many years of enjoyment!!!
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Gaucho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pacside
| Quote: | Originally posted by capitolkat
also- would you be willing to share the approximate costs per sqare foot for the construction? I'm gathering bids for work in La Paz and would like to
have some comparisons. thanks-- Norm |
check your u2u
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pacside, do you mind sending me a u2u w/ the same info? Builder and price per sq. foot? Thanks. |
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gaucho
| Quote: | Originally posted by pacside
| Quote: | Originally posted by capitolkat
also- would you be willing to share the approximate costs per sqare foot for the construction? I'm gathering bids for work in La Paz and would like to
have some comparisons. thanks-- Norm |
check your u2u
pacside [/quote
pacside, do you mind sending me a u2u w/ the same info? Builder and price per sq. foot? Thanks. |
check your u2u |
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Congratulations on the new Baja pad. Wishing you many, many years of enjoyment!!! |
Thanks BajaGringo! I hope we get to enjoy it for many many years too. Going to be spending next few months there for the first time. Up until now I've
only been able to spend a week here, a week there...I am very excited and look forward to my son learning how to surf and learn more spanish...and
maybe me too (the surf part).
pacside
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Bob and Susan
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stop at home depot in ensenada and
buy a propane heater and tank
it's COLD here
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
yea oladulce i always ruin a "dream"
with THAT water thing
the "love tub" is what sells a house though...
the "wife" looks at the tub and the house is sold!!!
then
NEVER uses the thing...too much trouble to fill and clean
it's the dream NOT the reality
if you dont have city water now dont "hold you breath"
this IS mexico
solar electricty...well...welcome to the club
how do you "power up" now? |
That is so true about the wife loving the jet tub....totally my decision on that. But yea I do have that small little problem of water and
electricity. Oh what the heck, buckets and lanterns will work. All I need is a bbq and some of that fresh fish they catch at Punta Lobos. At least the
tub looks good
Oh and soooo true about living in a dream world vs reality. Isn't that why we all love baja  
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longlegsinlapaz
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capitolkat & Gaucho.....
Please be aware that price per sq foot or meter will vary based on a lot of variables...location of construction, miles materials have to travel for
delivery, builder's built-in commission/profit/fee (typically 20-30% of all other costs, based on what you can personally negotiate), etc. The fact
that pacside is at an off-grid location and at least capitolkat will be on-grid will make a big difference in the sq meter cost.
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
stop at home depot in ensenada and
buy a propane heater and tank
it's COLD here |
good idea. i think my builder has a propane tank there...or is there a separate little one that goes with the propane heater?
pacside
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Gadget
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Just curious what beach you are on? South of TS but I don't recognize the terrain around you. Pescadero?
Oh, great looking place by the way.
Several comments on the thread about the windows.
Les and I were with Bruce Kramer (20+ yr transplant / builder) viewing one of his spec homes north of town. He does beautiful quality work inside and
out. I commented on not being too sure about my opinion of all the window and glass doors in the house being broken up into TDLs (true divided lite)
grids even with the beautiful craftsmanship of the imported mainland wood. I have big panels of window glass and patio doors here in the states and
you get used to looking out through that configuration.
His response was that in the event of a hurricane and debris gets airborn, it will only take out a small easily replaced panel and not the entire
window or door, plus a big panel will flex and break thus requiring a storm shutter.
He claimed he has never had a blow out on any of his structures which don't have shutters.
"Well, what about all the crap that then is blowing into the structure after that happens?" I asked.
"That's why there is not paint in the house, all tinted wall plaster and stained concrete floors, just hose it all out." Guess I couldn't argue with
his success and experience.
I think I would still put up storm shutters of some sort any how.
Best of everything with your place.
Perhaps we will stop by when we head south again.
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
http://www.LocosMocos.com
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Please be aware that price per sq foot or meter will vary based on a lot of variables...location of construction, miles materials have to travel for
delivery, builder's built-in commission/profit/fee (typically 20-30% of all other costs, based on what you can personally negotiate), etc. The fact
that pacside is at an off-grid location and at least capitolkat will be on-grid will make a big difference in the sq meter cost.
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longlegsinlapaz - what does off grid vs on grid have to do with the price? if you're assuming because we are off grid that we are more remote i
wouldn't make that assumption as we are quite close to the source. the price quoted did not include the solar grid system (if i need it) and the water
tanks in the ground i don't think add too much to the cost. in fact, i was told due to the sometimes unreliable water service (if we can tie into city
water and that is a big IF) it is good to have backup.
oh one other thing. the price quoted to me was in usd...so builder was quite happy when peso went from 9.5 to 13.5 during our construction 
pacside
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Bob and Susan
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propane heaters...
home depot in ensenada sells some nice catalitic (sp)
propane heaters you just cant get in california
take a look
the one (i mean 3) we have use
the smaller bbq style propane tank
cataletic (sp) heaters limit the smell you get
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longlegsinlapaz
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| Quote: | longlegsinlapaz - what does off grid vs on grid have to do with the price? if you're assuming because we are off grid that we are more remote i
wouldn't make that assumption as we are quite close to the source. the price quoted did not include the solar grid system (if i need it) and the water
tanks in the ground i don't think add too much to the cost. in fact, i was told due to the sometimes unreliable water service (if we can tie into city
water and that is a big IF) it is good to have backup.
oh one other thing. the price quoted to me was in usd...so builder was quite happy when peso went from 9.5 to 13.5 during our construction
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If the builder had quoted full up cost for labor & materials then solar equipment would have played a role, but since he
didn't, I misspoke!
Since being on city water means you only have water turned on typically for a 3-4 hour time span hopefully each day, having a cistern was included
(though not specifically stated) in my thought process. And you're right, cistern labor & materials would be a nit in the overall bottom line.
You were kinder to your builder than I was...exchange rate was taken into consideration in my contract. Is your builder Mexican or gringo? Most
Mexican builders quote in pesos.
Very cool looking casa!
So for this first trip, you'll have no power at all? I guess I'd better go
back & re-read to refresh my memory on amenities you currently do have.
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Gaucho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Please be aware that price per sq foot or meter will vary based on a lot of variables...location of construction, miles materials have to travel for
delivery, builder's built-in commission/profit/fee (typically 20-30% of all other costs, based on what you can personally negotiate), etc. The fact
that pacside is at an off-grid location and at least capitolkat will be on-grid will make a big difference in the sq meter cost.
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I agree. Our place is way off the grid and to be honest if we see city power/water within the next 15-20 years I will be very suprised. Based on what
I've found the cost per sq. foot/meter is more expensive on the lower East Cape than anywhere else around BCS.
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
| Quote: | longlegsinlapaz - You were kinder to your builder than I was...exchange rate was taken into consideration in my contract. Is your builder Mexican or
gringo? Most Mexican builders quote in pesos.
Very cool looking casa!
So for this first trip, you'll have no power at all? I guess I'd better go
back & re-read to refresh my memory on amenities you currently do have.
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longlegs-mx local builder. yea if i had known i would of probably requested a quote in pesos...but who knew the peso would lose so much value...could
of gone the other way so this that and the other i suppose.
Well for this first trip it is up in the air what type of power i will have. We will see. There are many variables here that I don't want to bore
everyone with that depends on whether we have electricity vs solar and whether we have city water vs trucked in water. Regardless I know we can get
trucked in water to fill our 10,000 liter tank for $50 usd per truckload. In addition, we will have some sort of generator and I'm sure power hooked
up whether solar or municipal. Builder is currently looking into all this and I am awaiting his answers.
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