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Choosing between a mean looking pit bull and a growling chihuahua I will take my chances with the pint sized version...
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You mean the ones Paulina referred to as footballs? 
Seriously, large agressive dogs need to disappear. I am a confirmed dog lover, but i have also seen what a larger agreesive dog can do to a childs
face in a matter of seconds. When he was 6 years old, my nephew was no match for an agressive Akita.
One way or another, that agressive Pit Bull in the RV park needs to disappear. JMHO
Diane
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Update-----
The pit's owner met with park manager and I and the dog's owner acted like this was the first time. The manager stood his ground and in the interest
of allowing him to find a home/place for the dog's allowed them to stay, totally locked in the bodega until Saturday (his timeshare job has him
working till Thursday)with the owner signing a "full liability" agreement.
Now, afterdark and the park office closed another rig showed up and they have a pit that aggresively barks at everyone and the owner has it on a leash
that he holds, then walks the dog away from those walking by???
We should get an answer tomorrow if we got the permanent lot at another Park and will be outta here soon.
BTW Chaco is from Santispac and Russ's pit (Tiger) was his best friend and one of the neatest dog's the wife and I have ever met.
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Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Choosing between a mean looking pit bull and a growling chihuahua I will take my chances with the pint sized version...
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You mean the ones Paulina referred to as footballs? 
Seriously, large agressive dogs need to disappear. I am a confirmed dog lover, but i have also seen what a larger agreesive dog can do to a childs
face in a matter of seconds. When he was 6 years old, my nephew was no match for an agressive Akita.
One way or another, that agressive Pit Bull in the RV park needs to disappear. JMHO
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Diane------not just "6 year olds"----------a large agressive dog ( a great dane) once tore my ear off, causing about $2000 bucks of plastic surgery to
my face and ear, and I almost lost my right eye. I was 45 at the time. No, I was NOT threatening it's owner-----it was a random attack by a very
old dog. The dog was "put down" a week later by the owner after it bit another adult. I still have the scars to remind me.
I like dogs too, but would have no problem turning an agressive dog into a history-clip in an instant.
Barry
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Pit bulls are dangerous. That is fact. They may love their owners and never attack them but you just never know what they'll do to a child or just
anybody. They can turn viciously aggressive on people they have known for years. Just out of nothing. There is something in their brain that makes
them do that. There are many stories that prove it. I'd rather have a lab. They are smart, loving and lots of fun. They protect you as well and you
can rest assured they wont try to kill your neighbor.
Aripes
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and Baja tambien
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labs, pitbulls,c-cker spaniels, yada,yada, yada....they ALL bite if confronted or feel threatened....i was bit 7 times in my 20 yrs as a park
ranger...7 times...i am now afraid of any and all dogs...almost a phobia....but...it was my fault ...i walked into their space, after dark, to
register their mom and dad for camping...it was my fault...i invaded their space....but, when you have an animal that goes outside that arena, it's
time to take action...sorry....dog's gotta go
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It all comes back to how you train an animal from the get go. An exception to that may occur as a dog gets old. I have seen a few that were great dogs
with very even temperaments but they may get crotchety as they age and I know of one that even bit their owner. I have also heard that as dogs lose
their senses of smell, site and hearing they can bite as a fearful reaction. It still comes back to their owners knowing their own dogs and how to
care for/keep them.
Not always an easy answer...
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I've been chased many times while riding my bike and also walking. After many episodes of Cesar Milan "The Dog Whisperer", it all comes down to
boundaries. Dogs who run out of their yard to chase walkers or others have not learned any boundaries.
As a walker, you can teach that dog your boundaries. You can take the time to work with the dog on a one-on one basis............. Yea RIGHT!
(NOT!:lol
Using a pepper spray on the dog is the best deterant I've heard so far. If you need something sooner than you can get ahold of some pepper spray, mix
some household ammonia with water (50/50 should do the trick) and spray that on the dog when it comes at you. A good trigger-type sprayer bottle can
reach up to 10 feet.
I've also used chili powder as a deterant. Any kind of cheap chili powder. The dog may get closer than you'd like, but a shaker full of the stuff in
the dog's face is effective.
Our neighbor's crazy goat was coming over to our yard and chasing the dogs and our 5 year old child a few years ago. It was even coming up onto the
front deck. This goat is BIG, it's back is 4' tall, head and horns over 5' tall! Yelling didn't chase it away, neither did the broom. Talk about
scared! It was putting it's head (with horns!)down and charging me. The only thing I could get ahold of in a hurry was some bottled hot sauce, and
did seem to have an effect when splashed in it's face.
BTW, chili powder also worked brilliantly for training the new puppy to stay out of the garbage can. Just a little sprinkle in the can and that
chicken carcass don't smell so good no more...
Take a spray "weapon" with you on the walk, talk or make some noise when approaching the bad dog's area, and be ready to spray. Maybe try it a couple
of times without your pup so you don't have too many things to worry about.
Good Luck...
[Edited on 1-15-2009 by BajaNuts]
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good advise with the pepper spray....also...yeah, ammonia REALLY works great!...they won't be back for more, i guarantee it...and i love to tie a
handkerchief onto the wheel so that the aggresive dog has something to chomp onto...it'll only happen once!!!try it, you'll like it!
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Don't wanna hijack this thread but....
pssst....BajaGringo.....
If you need an avatar for those times when ya shoulda kept yer mouth shut...(not that it would EVER happen to you.......)
you can use this picture-

  
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I followed the url - love it!!!
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If you "say" you didn't want to hijack this thread, then why did you hijack it ?? Start a separate thread.
Lar.
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cuz there were references to the new avatar earlier in this thread...
sorry....
and I hope anyone with other hints for handling bad dogs and their owners will continue to chime in, despite the funny pic.
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If it works on bears, I am sure it would stop a charging dog in it's tracks too....

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I have two chihuahua's. One is a thinks he is a pit bull and will go after
bigger dogs he does not know and people who come on the property that
he does not know or does not like. He moves so fast and looks so fierce with
his hair raised down his back....a grown man can do quite a dance trying
to keep his ankles safe. Once he gets to know you and trust you, he is a good friend.
The other is a Mexican rescue, who is a lover, all he wants is to be hugged
and get petted on his head. Each dog with in a bread is different.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
One of the sweetest dogs at the san diego dog park I frequent is a pit. It's the owners- not the breed. |
Finally - somebody gets it right.
carpe diem!
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Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGeoff
If it works on bears, I am sure it would stop a charging dog in it's tracks too....

[Edited on 1-15-2009 by BajaGeoff] |
Always wondered if that stuff would work on a "charging" grizzly. Doubt that anyone would be willing to give it a try.
Somehow I have the feeling that it's for use against bear encounters, where they won't back off to loud sounds and need to be chased off.
And basically, the same goes for dogs. I doubt a vicious dog would let itself be detered by anything but a bullet or shotgun.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
One of the sweetest dogs at the san diego dog park I frequent is a pit. It's the owners- not the breed. |
Finally - somebody gets it right. |
Ken------I had a "husky/german shepard" cross that was the sweetest dog ever, and loved everybody. BUT, put her in a car and she was a holy-terror to
anybody that approached that car----------we never could figure it out----------but she was rescued from an animal shelter in Grand Junction, CO when
she was about 6 months old and maybe had a bad experience before we got her????
Like I said, we never could figure it out. Other than that, a fabulous dog. (she was also terrified of the smell of "cooking lamb")
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Finger up the butt stops me everytime.
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Quote: | Originally posted by burnrope
Finger up the butt stops me everytime. |
Care to elaborate???
 
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Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Always wondered if that stuff would work on a "charging" grizzly. Doubt that anyone would be willing to give it a try.
Somehow I have the feeling that it's for use against bear encounters, where they won't back off to loud sounds and need to be chased off.
And basically, the same goes for dogs. I doubt a vicious dog would let itself be detered by anything but a bullet or shotgun. |
We went to Hyder, Alaska on our last trip to Alaska, and since this is one of the best places in the world to see and photograph both Grizzlies and
Black bears, you can imagine that there is a large population. One of the locals, who really was in the know, told me that any bear over 3 yrs. old
has been sprayed enough times that all anyone needs to do is appoximate the sound of pepper spray going off with a "PSSSSSST" and the bear heads for
the woods on a dead run. So, unless the dog has been trained otherwise, a full shot in the face will deter any dog who is charging or coming on
really fast.
I do find it interesting that the criterion for bad dogs is the owner, but in the event that I am getting charged by a dog, I very seldom have the
time to "interview the owner to see if the proper training has taken place", so I am of the school that I spray first and ask questions later. If any
owners have problems with that then I suspect the whole world will be a happier place if they just keep the animal under control with a leash. My son
and I were running through the park one day when out of the bushes a bulldog charges him and grabs him by the hand. The owner comes running out of
the bushes and hollers that we should not do anything to the dog as he is very friendly. My son held up the dog in the air that was firmly attached
to his hand and said, "Yes, I can see that he really likes me."
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