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Hook
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Woody, it's good that you are sticking to the 1st generation Tundras. They have proven to be quite reliable, especially in non-towing, low payload
situations.
Although for some of us, that isn't necessarily the definition of a real truck.................
However the new 2nd generation Tundras have had some real problems with drive train components, cheap interiors, a funky automatic limited slip that
is universally hated and DOESN'T ENGAGE IN 4WD, really poor paint, bed jitter, brutal ride on interstates laid in sections, very limited range when
towing and the famous "cardboard" tailgate. Some have also complained that the alternator is mounted too low and is succeptible to mud and water
intrusion which causes it to fail. And few are happy that the new 4wd models force you to REMOVE YOUR FRONT SKIDPLATE TO DRAIN THE OIL AND CHANGE THE
FILTER!!! DOH, WHAT A FEELING!!
But dont take my word for it.....................read about it from some long time Toyota owners who bought the news ones and have some reservations.
Tundra solutions board
Tundratalk forum
Everybody loves that 5.7 liter engine, though. The truck screams, by all accounts.
[Edited on 2-23-2009 by Hook]
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
just for the record (and not a pickup)---------My 2007 Nissan "Off road" model X-Terra has a little over 17,000 miles on it, much of those miles on
4x4 roads of Death Valley, Anza-Borrego, Canyonlands Natl. Park, Capitol Reef Natl. Park, and USFS land all over Utah, Nevada, and Northern
CA-------------I have not had one problem, not one, with it since I bought it.
I did have to add "add-a-leafs" to the rear leaf spring packages as it's load capacity with stock springs was marginal (just like David's Toy), and I
did add a "leveling kit" to the front end.
It has more power than I know what to do with, elec. locker in the rear end, Bilstein Shocks (all stock), and is very comfortable and quiet even with
the built-up suspension (a 2+ inch lift).
What's not to love? 
This certainly is not to take anything away from Toyota-----it is just to point out that there ARE options. 
Barry |
Barry,
I chose the Xterra over all SUV's available incuding the Forerunner. The overall size, engine and power train are just what I was looking for in a
Baja Rig. I have over 45,000 miles on ours with only a faulty low tire pressure light currently. Hoping to get that dissconnected not fixed.
Enjoy your ride.
Ken
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Barry,
I chose the Xterra over all SUV's available incuding the Forerunner. The overall size, engine and power train are just what I was looking for in a
Baja Rig. I have over 45,000 miles on ours with only a faulty low tire pressure light currently. Hoping to get that dissconnected not fixed.
Enjoy your ride.
Ken |
Ken----
That's great to hear, and my thinking was the same. Funny you should mention the "tire pressure light"----mine stays on all the time, but I found out
that it was because I don't carry 35 lbs in my tires, as recommended by Nissan. That is way to stiff for me-------I normally carry 30 lbs, with no
adverse consequences (other than that silly light). (20 on dirt roads) Boost the pressure up to 35 and the light goes out, eventually.
Barry
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Barry,
I chose the Xterra over all SUV's available incuding the Forerunner. The overall size, engine and power train are just what I was looking for in a
Baja Rig. I have over 45,000 miles on ours with only a faulty low tire pressure light currently. Hoping to get that dissconnected not fixed.
Enjoy your ride.
Ken |
Ken----
That's great to hear, and my thinking was the same. Funny you should mention the "tire pressure light"----mine stays on all the time, but I found out
that it was because I don't carry 35 lbs in my tires, as recommended by Nissan. That is way to stiff for me-------I normally carry 30 lbs, with no
adverse consequences (other than that silly light). (20 on dirt roads) Boost the pressure up to 35 and the light goes out, eventually.
Barry |
Had the low tire pressure warning light problem. Don't forget the spare tire. That was my problem.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TonyC
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Barry,
I chose the Xterra over all SUV's available incuding the Forerunner. The overall size, engine and power train are just what I was looking for in a
Baja Rig. I have over 45,000 miles on ours with only a faulty low tire pressure light currently. Hoping to get that dissconnected not fixed.
Enjoy your ride.
Ken |
Ken----
That's great to hear, and my thinking was the same. Funny you should mention the "tire pressure light"----mine stays on all the time, but I found out
that it was because I don't carry 35 lbs in my tires, as recommended by Nissan. That is way to stiff for me-------I normally carry 30 lbs, with no
adverse consequences (other than that silly light). (20 on dirt roads) Boost the pressure up to 35 and the light goes out, eventually.
Barry |
Had the low tire pressure warning light problem. Don't forget the spare tire. That was my problem.
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Tony,
Thanks for the tip. I hadn't considered the spare, duh. That could be my problem as unlike Barry I keep 35#'s on road and still have the *+-?#ing
light on all the time.
Gotta love BajaNomad!
Ken
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TonyC
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Ken, the freak'en warning light drove me nuts....I even put electrical tape over the darn thing so I didn't have to look at it, till I figured it out.
Go BajaNomads.
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Barry A.
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OK, guys, now I am going a little nuts----------a connection between the "spare tire" and the low pressure light????? How does the warning system
KNOW that the spare is low??
Nissan explained to me that the "warning system" knows when the tires on the ground are not up to proper pressure by measuring how many revolutions
they go around, and any differential between them (??)--------if that is so, then the spare is left out of that equation. I think that the Nissan
folks don't totally know the answer-------but are just slinging bull. (??) But it is even more difficult for me to envision the "system" knowing the
pressure in the spare is low.
What do you think? and does not Toyota have this same system? (just to keep this thread on topic)
Barry
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
OK, guys, now I am going a little nuts----------a connection between the "spare tire" and the low pressure light????? How does the warning system
KNOW that the spare is low??
Nissan explained to me that the "warning system" knows when the tires on the ground are not up to proper pressure by measuring how many revolutions
they go around, and any differential between them (??)--------if that is so, then the spare is left out of that equation. I think that the Nissan
folks don't totally know the answer-------but are just slinging bull. (??) But it is even more difficult for me to envision the "system" knowing the
pressure in the spare is low.
What do you think? and does not Toyota have this same system? (just to keep this thread on topic)
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Barry,
I believe all the tires have the sending units in them in the Xterra. They are little battery operated pressure sensors that transmit the info to a
receiver in the cab/engine compartment.
Ken
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bill erhardt
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My Tundra has the same, or a similar, system, and the light turns on if the pressure in the spare is low.
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TonyC
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Ken your on the money. That's why if you decide to change rims like I did, make sure that the tire pressure sensor will fit on the new rims, or your
screwed.
Also disabling it is not that easy to do. I tryed, and ended up going with a brogan fix.....tape over the warning light. It was only after my wife
made fun of my fix, that I made it a mission to figure it out. Something so easy, and it took me two weeks to solve. Tundra.
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Barry A.
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Thanks Tony, Bill and Ken----------really makes me comfortable to know that my Service Manager at the local Nissan Dealer did not know about the
sensors inside the wheel/tire. Jeeeezo!!!!! 
(I just ignor the warning light, now that I know what it is)
Barry
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
mileage isn't a concern for me. my wife will be using it around town as we only live 2.5 miles from her job. i'll drive my ranger into the ground for
work. gas will always be cheap in baja so the road trips won't drain my wallet. i'm more concerned with reliability and what to watch out for. the one
i'm looking at has 90k and all service documented at the dealership in escondido. i'm gonna try to steal it for 8.5-9k. |
Wow that's pretty cheap, I guess Toys don't hold their value very well. I sold my 01 Dodge 4x with a Cummins for $21,000. with 120,000 trouble free
miles on it.
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TMW
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Here's a good write up on tire sensor systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_pressure_monitoring_system
I had a 2004 Tahoe that had it and the problem was the sensor in the tire was broken. My Tacoma light comes on at around 28lbs.
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woody with a view
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great info all around
the people backed out. decided to keep it. i got my eyes on an '04 that isn't a private sale, although it comes with a 6 month warranty , meaning the
price is a little higher but the condition is better, too.
cross your fingers....
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
However the new 2nd generation Tundras have had some real problems with drive train components, cheap interiors, a funky automatic limited slip that
is universally hated and DOESN'T ENGAGE IN 4WD, really poor paint, bed jitter, brutal ride on interstates laid in sections, very limited range when
towing and the famous "cardboard" tailgate. Some have also complained that the alternator is mounted too low and is succeptible to mud and water
intrusion which causes it to fail. And few are happy that the new 4wd models force you to REMOVE YOUR FRONT SKIDPLATE TO DRAIN THE OIL AND CHANGE THE
FILTER!!! DOH, WHAT A FEELING!!
But dont take my word for it.....................read about it from some long time Toyota owners who bought the news ones and have some reservations.
Everybody loves that 5.7 liter engine, though. The truck screams, by all accounts.
[Edited on 2-23-2009 by Hook] |
Thank you Hook. Almost bought the 2007-08 Tundra, instead I spent almost $5K upgrading my 2006 Tundra, camburg coilovers, exhaust, air intake.....etc.
Good thing, very happy with the results.
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David K
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What year model was the change to full size for the Tundra?
The bigger Tacoma began with the 2005 model... Tundra was a couple years later with the increase in size. The '05 and later Tacomas are nearly the
same size as the older Tundras.
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TonyC
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2007 for the Tundra with the 5.7 liter, 2008 for the double cab I believe.
Thinking I may be buying the Tacoma double in the near future, either new or 1-2 years used, or I may get a RAV or CRV 4x4/AWD to leave in Socorro
for bumming around when size and power isn't an issue.
My 06's only rated 500lbs more on towing, but I needed the bigger bed, and room in the back seats.....otherwise close on spec.
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wsdunc
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Tundra
I have a 2003 doublecab 4x4 with a shell. It is my wife's daily driver, and our expedition vehicle. We do a lot of rockhounding in the southwest,
which means lots of dirt roads, some pretty gnarly. I have had to use 4 wheel low a couple of times to crawl over rocks, and routinely use 4wheel
drive on some of the dirt roads. I have about 90,000 miles on it, no problems. I haven't come close to its limits 4 wheeling. Maybe I got in over
my head, but the truck always did fine. With the shell we inflate a double size mattress in the back and it is comfy sleeping. On the highway the
long wheelbase makes for great cruising, if I quit paying attention I sometimes find myself nudging 100 mph before I rein it back in. Parking in
town is a b-tch. Gas mileage pretty well sucks. The only "problem" I have is groaning of the suspension, which I understand to be noise from the
leafsprings rubbing on each other. We love the truck. Anyone have any good ideas to cure the groaning?
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baitcast
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Turn up the radio,
Rob
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David K
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Better the springs are groaning than the driver!
How about some WD-40 on the springs and shackle bushings?
100 mph will cause sucky gas milage... in any truck!
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