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He went from "a hard working kid saving for college" to having alcohol, marijuana and cocaine in him when found....must like to party hard
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BajaDove
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The kid came over for a little fun. a weekend bender.
He picked up a pretty girl
Her old boy friend runs into them flies into a jealous rage and sticks it to him again and again.
Dumps the body and getting rid of a truck is not that big a deal
That's how stabbings happen. They don't need the sinister attachment.
If its not where it is, its where it isn\'t.
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Then again we could just say he brought over a load of meat to either sell or trade for some Snort and the deal went bad, end of story.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
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American people.\'
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We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
He went from "a hard working kid saving for college" to having alcohol, marijuana and cocaine in him when found....must like to party hard
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I'm sure the family will do their own toxiclolgy tests stateside. Dollars to donuts the TJ police are involved up to their necks. They probably
pumped the drugs into the corpse to villify the victim (as always). The truth will come out- but not until what little spring break action is
happening is over.
I wouldn't believe the police accounts 100%- especially with a refrigerated meat truck and $3000 in beef still unaccounted for.
[Edited on 4-7-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
Then again we could just say he brought over a load of meat to either sell or trade for some Snort and the deal went bad, end of story.
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End of story for you perhaps,
Speculation does not end the story.
There are many paths the truth might take.
CaboRon
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BajaDove
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That may end it in your book but my CSI experience says Stabbing crime of passion.
Bad deal CHOKE OR SHOOT
but all this bantering is no consolation to the mother I'm sure.
If its not where it is, its where it isn\'t.
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Wow Bajadove, were you on television 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
He went from "a hard working kid saving for college" to having alcohol, marijuana and cocaine in him when found....must like to party hard
also... |
I'm sure the family will do their own toxiclolgy tests stateside. Dollars to donuts the TJ police are involved up to their necks. They probably
pumped the drugs into the corpse to villify the victim (as always). The truth will come out- but not until what little spring break action is
happening is over.
I wouldn't believe the police accounts 100%- especially with a refrigerated meat truck and $3000 in beef still unaccounted for.
[Edited on 4-7-2009 by Woooosh] |
I agree with you Woosh.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
He went from "a hard working kid saving for college" to having alcohol, marijuana and cocaine in him when found....must like to party hard
also... |
I'm sure the family will do their own toxiclolgy tests stateside. Dollars to donuts the TJ police are involved up to their necks. They probably
pumped the drugs into the corpse to villify the victim (as always). The truth will come out- but not until what little spring break action is
happening is over.
I wouldn't believe the police accounts 100%- especially with a refrigerated meat truck and $3000 in beef still unaccounted for.
[Edited on 4-7-2009 by Woooosh] |
Woooooshy, let me get this straight. You think the TJ cops found this dead kid with a knife sticking out of his chest and THEN somehow got pot, booze,
and coke into his blood to make him look like a bad guy?
That's more believeable to you than he got wasted in TJ and told the wrong guy to get phuked?
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I can imagine the cocaine and alcohol tests were done as they are quick and relatively cheap to do but marijuana?? that's a more comparitively
difficult and expensive test to perform so this is hard to believe...
when you consider the costs and the technology available to the TJPD, and the fact that when we report a crime here (in Mexico) more often than not we
are asked for the frigging money to put gas in their tanks in order to carry out an investigation... this stinks! THC is fat soluble compound not
water soluble like cocaine and alcohol which is why it is more difficult and expensive to detect. This is also why the methods used to detect it are
different and more costly and even less accurate.
http://www.leftseat.com/AME/health4pilots/default.htm
from above link referring to testing methods for marijuana that could be performed on a dead person
"Blood testing is most commonly done for clinical, diagnostic, and drug overdose purposes. It is routine in hospital emergency rooms. Blood testing
can be done even with a severely intoxicated, injured, or dead person, and is therefore favored for post-accident investigation. Almost all
drugs can be tested in blood, although THC (marijuana) is particularly difficult to measure."
http://www.ohsinc.com/DRUG_TESTING_COST_DRUG_TEST_COST2.htm
from the link above referring to the costs of marijuana testing...
" - I know that there are different types of tests (blood, urine, hair), which is most effective and what is the cost difference amongst them
For the most part, forget blood. Blood is tested for illicit drugs only in extreme or unique cases (e.g., the tested individual is unconscious, due
to an accident) and in some Court-ordered cases. During 2003, an estimated 55 million drug tests were performed n the United States on job
applicants, existing employees who were randomly tested, employees who had or caused a workplace accident or injury, certain federal and state
prisoners, certain parolees, recovering addicts, moms or dads who were drug tested by court-order as a result of child custody cases, et al. More
than 90% of those 55 million drug tests were performed using urine specimens, not blood.
As mentioned above, urine test cost probably averages $44. Hair specimen testing is about $115-$150 per test
nationally. Hair can indicate drug-use (can be "effective") as far back as 90 days. Most drugs are detectable in urine for only 1-4 days;
exceptions are marijuana and less-so, PCP. "Greater accuracy" is not an issue with either hair or urine specimen analysis, though a few detractors
will disagree. Hair advocates claim that "more" positives are discovered through hair testing. I would agree in largest part because hair results
can go back further than the 1-4 days available through urine testing. In any case, the most effective testing "program" is random (the immediate
testing of an individual with zero advance notice given) testing throughout the entire year."
"Hair testing is usually used for investigations when other tests are not available, such as in criminal cases or deaths. Hair can be tested for most
drugs.
The advantage of testing hair is the long period of detection: the life span of a typical hair ranges from about four months for hairs from the
eyelashes or arm pit, to four years for hair from the scalp. Hair grows at a rate of about one quarter to one half inch per month. Drugs enter the
hair while it is growing and therefore present a record of drug use during the entire period of growth.
Hair testing is not as accurate as other methods, however, because of contamination from shampoo residues, hair treatments, smoke, air pollution, and
other environmental effects. Another disadvantage is that people have different types of hair, which may affect the readings in the analysis.
Dark-haired people such as Hispanics, Asians, and African Americans have a higher concentration of melanin, which incorporates and retains drugs at a
higher rate. The result is that a dark-haired person can be 10 to 50 times more likely to test positive than a lighter-haired person who used the same
amount of drugs.
At this time, only one company, Psychemedics, performs hair drug analyses. Their procedures are proprietary and not available for public review, and
therefore cannot be evaluated for accuracy. Because of these concerns, most federal programs do not engage in hair testing. "
[Edited on 4-8-2009 by flyfishinPam]
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Not on TV but I went with Grissom on every case.
If its not where it is, its where it isn\'t.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
He went from "a hard working kid saving for college" to having alcohol, marijuana and cocaine in him when found....must like to party hard
also... |
I'm sure the family will do their own toxiclolgy tests stateside. Dollars to donuts the TJ police are involved up to their necks. They probably
pumped the drugs into the corpse to villify the victim (as always). The truth will come out- but not until what little spring break action is
happening is over.
I wouldn't believe the police accounts 100%- especially with a refrigerated meat truck and $3000 in beef still unaccounted for.
[Edited on 4-7-2009 by Woooosh] |
Woooooshy, let me get this straight. You think the TJ cops found this dead kid with a knife sticking out of his chest and THEN somehow got pot, booze,
and coke into his blood to make him look like a bad guy?
That's more believeable to you than he got wasted in TJ and told the wrong guy to get phuked? |
The kid was killed with his own knife- how convenient. Sure there are other ways to kill a robbery victim- but using his own knife was a lot easier.
Maybe he pulled it out in self defense.
Even if he was just "lost" and crossed the border in error- his driving route to playas was a logical one- it's the first right turn and there is no
way to get off the via rapida once you are on it.
My speculation is that he made it across the border, but was noticed by police or military at the check point at TJ Playas. $3000 in beef with a meat
logo on the truck is just too huge a temptation for either the police or military. The military would have stopped the truck to look for weapons- see
the meat and the kid driving alone. It's just too hard to imagine hew wasn't an innocent victim made to look like a punk.
The other scenario is much less likely IMHO. The kid took the loaded meat truck to TJ intentionally. He went to party (a party zone is Playas?-nope)
or to sell/trade the meat for cash/drugs that he immediately ingested. What was he going to do to explain where the meat went to his boss? Meat is
much cheaper now in Mexico- unless you can steal it for free of course.
Most telling is that photos were taken of the truck entering Mexico but no one is saying how many people were in it, what time it crossed- etc. I'm
sticking with the police/military being involved until Mexico wants to give up some facts they aren't sharing about this crime yet.
[Edited on 4-8-2009 by Woooosh]
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Dave
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Where's the beef?
Wonder where the steaks wound up? It's difficult to get a good steak down here.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The kid was killed with his own knife- how convenient. |
That's it. You got it, Whooosh. [oooops..I left out an "o".]
It was suicide. It reminds me of Newport in a long lost era when one of the Irvines, James maybe, commited suicide by shooting himself in the back.
Well, I guess you had to be there.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Even if he was just "lost" and crossed the border in error- his driving route to playas was a logical one- it's the first right turn and there is no
way to get off the via rapida once you are on it.
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You've got to be VERY "lost" to go into Mexico, come back out of Mexico, then turn around and go right back in again a few hours later.
And with that truck, as well as likely looking loaded down (?), he made it through Mexican customs not just once, but TWICE it appears.
(but as noted by another in this thread, there's no issue getting U-Hauls through these days, so...)
The kid left the friend's place (in Orange County !!!) at 1:15pm, made it into Mexico and then back out by 4:30pm (which would've been a very
quick in and out) - only to turn around and go back into Mexico again at 7:30pm - all in the same day, the night before he was found on the
beach.
Here's the news report again:
| Quote: | Taylor said her son told friends that he was heading for work when he drove off about 1:15 p.m. March 23. He was not heard from again. His body was
found at 6:10 a.m. March 24.
A U.S. law enforcement source, who requested anonymity because he wasn't an authorized spokesman, said license plate readers at the border had
recorded the truck driving into Mexico at San Ysidro about 7:30 p.m. March 23. Three hours earlier, cameras had caught the truck heading north from
Tijuana into San Diego, suggesting that an initial crossing into Mexico had not been not recorded. |
Very, very unfortunate situation. My thoughts are with the family and their loss.
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http://www.ocregister.com/articles/pennington-taylor-tijuana...
The missing truck's license plate number is 8E28590
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As I was running through this thread, I was eager to post my point until I hit Doug's post. He beat me to what I consider important. The fact that he
went down, came back and went down again. So, it appears that he was not stopped either time he entered Mexico, despite driving a conspicuous vehicle.
But what about coming back North? Would our Customs people, a) allow the packaged meat, if he had it? b) would they not have searched the truck under
any circumstances?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaNomad
The kid left the friend's place (in Orange County !!!) at 1:15pm, made it into Mexico and then back out by 4:30pm (which would've been a very
quick in and out) - only to turn around and go back into Mexico again at 7:30pm - all in the same day...
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Actually, I'm reading reports that he was in San Bernardino County, possibly even Bishop, CA. This looks
to be according to his mother though as to the last phone conversation they had with one-another on March 23. Only thing is, there's no way you could
leave Bishop at 1:15pm, get to Tijuana and back to San Diego by 4:30pm.
Anyway, just mentioning it...
http://www.10news.com/news/19109553/detail.html
http://www.10news.com/news/19055072/detail.html
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This whole story hasn't come together since day one. So much of it makes no sense.
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A test
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
So much of it makes no sense. |
What country is it?
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