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thebajarunner
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much as I hate to continue this gutter trip...
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
They will get your post count up there a lot more quickly.
At least then you will have one positive aspect to your life....
NOT>>>>> |
Is that why you live in Oakdale .... I will bet you have never been more than a part time tripper to La Baja  |
I will attempt to answer your question.
First of all, isn't this board for people that appreciate (won't go so far as to say "love") Baja?
And, doesn't that encompass both those that live there, and those who simply travel there?
Actually, I did live at La Mision for three months some years back. I was helping to re-organize the Door of Faith Orphanage. My family lived at
Rancho Santa Marta Orph. one full summer, but I only visited a couple of times, otherwise was busy making a living here in Central Calif.
I live in Oakdale, because it is my home, because I own three businesses which demand a lot of time and attention, and because I serve on ten (yes-
10) non-profit boards which assist needy folks, here, in Mexico and around the world.
I travel to Baja at least twice a year, the Spring trip is always a 2 week event. I travel with Baja Vida, another Nomadian.
Probably, in my 12 years of racing and pre-running, and in my travels since 1971, I have covered more different Baja roads than 99.9% of the
Nomads.... not bragging, just establishing my bona fides.
And finally, LLiLP and Dennis both had good words for you, if you hate Baja (and us) so much, you really need to find a new playground to take your
shovel and pail and play.
(and take the smileys too, por favor)
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losfrailes
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Another one very well said, Good on ya' Bajarunner!
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Bajahowodd
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I'll chime in with kudos to "legs" as well.
I'm certain that this forum isn't design to be threpeutical. But I have to mention that I, too, have felt a certain kinship with Ron. Obviously,
Mexico, or namely Todos Santos and environs failed Ron's expectations. That being said, Mexico, Baja, Todos Santos are what they are. Genuine, with
all the warts. Unbelieveably, Ron has relocated to Las Vegas. If anyone can name a city that is shallower and more plastic than Vegas, please do. Dr.
Howodd's diagnosis is that Ron was running from something/ someone and thought he could hide in Baja. Vegas is among the best places on earth to
maintain anonymity. Buena suerte Ron.
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Bajaboy
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Ditto to what the thebajarunner said...I love hearing people try and claim how they know more about Baja because they live some place or have been
traveling there since whenever....blah, blah, blah....we all have our own experiences regardless. Get off your high horse.....there are plenty of
people that live in San Diego that don't know jack about the place!
I personally laugh at some of the folks iI've met in Baja Sur who offer so much advice to me and then proceed to tell me they've never made the drive
down
Zac
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redmesa
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Registered: 3-12-2008
Location: Van Isle and Bahia Asuncion
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cit⋅i⋅zen
/ˈsɪtəzən, -sən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sit-uh-zuhn, -suhn] Show IPA
–noun
1. a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes allegiance to its government and is entitled to its protection (distinguished from
alien ).
How many of us are citizen as this describes? So most of us are just visitors who have a totally different connection to Baja than a citizen. We
may be one step up from a tourist but that is about it. Cabo Ron you are probably back where you are a citizen so that is all for the best if that
is what you are troubled by...now as a citizen of the exicited states you can give them hell.
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Bajajack
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
They will get your post count up there a lot more quickly.
At least then you will have one positive aspect to your life....
NOT>>>>> |
Is that why you live in Oakdale .... I will bet you have never been more than a part time tripper to La Baja |
I will attempt to answer your question.
First of all, isn't this board for people that appreciate (won't go so far as to say "love") Baja?
And, doesn't that encompass both those that live there, and those who simply travel there?
Actually, I did live at La Mision for three months some years back. I was helping to re-organize the Door of Faith Orphanage. My family lived at
Rancho Santa Marta Orph. one full summer, but I only visited a couple of times, otherwise was busy making a living here in Central Calif.
I live in Oakdale, because it is my home, because I own three businesses which demand a lot of time and attention, and because I serve on ten (yes-
10) non-profit boards which assist needy folks, here, in Mexico and around the world.
I travel to Baja at least twice a year, the Spring trip is always a 2 week event. I travel with Baja Vida, another Nomadian.
Probably, in my 12 years of racing and pre-running, and in my travels since 1971, I have covered more different Baja roads than 99.9% of the
Nomads.... not bragging, just establishing my bona fides.
And finally, LLiLP and Dennis both had good words for you, if you hate Baja (and us) so much, you really need to find a new playground to take your
shovel and pail and play.
(and take the smileys too, por favor) |
Speaking of Bragging, are you sure you didn't miss a couple of
smaller things, just wondering.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Dr. Howodd's diagnosis is that Ron was running from something/ someone and thought he could hide in Baja. |
Maybe so as you say odd one.........I think my buddy Ron was searching for something. In the wrong place, I suppose.
He'll find it when he wants to.
Good luck, Ron.
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DENNIS
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I hope we can quit beating on Ron. It's over.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I hope we can quit beating on Ron. It's over. |
If he stays of the board, no problem.
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BajaNuts
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Mood: no worry, no hurry....it's all good!
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Yo, 'Legs...
you go girl!
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redmesa
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Location: Van Isle and Bahia Asuncion
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Did I miss something or did no one notice this was not Cabo Ron writing:
He just did a copy and paste and everyone got very troubled. You should be writing to Sergio.
Living with Mexico's Trauma of Insecurity
By Sergio Aguayo Quezada
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arrowhead
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Boy Caboron, this message board is a tough crowd. I thought debate is where intelligent people exchange views. Here, if you don't toe the party line,
they go right for the jugular.
Maybe you should change your name to "Cabronron"?
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Paulclark
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I have to make a trip north next week through LA and on to San Francisco. Is it safe and are there areas which I should avoid due to guns and
violence? Does everyone have a gun? If I don't speak the language will people help me?
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Woooosh
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I almost envy Ron's ability to walk away. If he owns nothing here, and leaves no family behind to worry about- he is free to lick his wounds in Vegas
and plan his next adventure (charade- whatever). How liberating. Almost. We all have different experiences here. Most of us sitting in our home
offices and blogging on the internet have the good life- even with all the warts. Very few have options like we do.
My Mexican nephews returned to Mexcio after living and working in San Diego. They liked the USA, but didn't like being surrounded with wealth and
being poor- in Mexico they were solid middle class and never gave class a thought. Many Americans in Mexico have a hard time adjusting to the
opposite situation. I know it challenges me at times. JMHO.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Russ
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Others have responded to Ron's suicidal postings far more eloquently than I. But Dennis' responses have shown a example of how many of the Nomads may
like to be portrayed. In this instance Dennis has shown how I would like an understanding friend to respond. Some day I hope to meet you. Russ
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flyfishinPam
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To Live in Mexico is to feels like you have Ceased to be a Citizen
Living with Mexico's Trauma of Insecurity
By Sergio Aguayo Quezada
Actually the story is true there is definately an out of control insecurity in many (all too many) parts of Mexico and this needs to be addressed,
seriously and I don't mean the dog and pony shows the propaganda addresses. I have no idea what Ron had to endure while here but it was enough to
make him relocate. Ron, I wish you luck in your new home. I have been through hell and back here but I cannot just walk away nor do I want to.
There are many things that I have never shared and that others have not had to live with that are unique to living in, doing business and having a
family in this country.
Last night the news that about 50 (can't remember the exact number) Zetas that were busted loose by fake officials in fake AFI uniforms was enough to
bore me to sleep. Even I have become desensitized, geeze.
Its time to just legalize the chit now and end the frigging violence, insecurity and great source of corruption before it kills us all. this is a
huge source of our problems. Legalizing "la droga" would generate a significant source of income for the government through taxes, and enhance
tourism and job opportunities among other things.
http://www.alternativa.org.mx/legalizacion_drogas.html
I choose to stay and give a shot at making a difference.
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movinguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I almost envy Ron's ability to walk away. If he owns nothing here, and leaves no family behind to worry about- he is free to lick his wounds in Vegas
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Exactly. If it didn't work out, so be it. I am embarking on an adventure the other way - marrying into a Mexican family, living and maintaining
residences on both sides of the border.
Making the jump to full time ex-pat would be a challenge. I love being in Mexico - but I love coming home. When Chula Vista looks good to you, well,
that speaks volumes. 
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woody with a view
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When Chula Vista looks good to you, well, that speaks volumes.
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my wife used to hate camping out in the "way out there." then she actually went a few times..... now she loves it but still REALLY likes getting home. can't say i blame her!!!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Others have responded to Ron's suicidal postings far more eloquently than I. But Dennis' responses have shown a example of how many of the Nomads may
like to be portrayed. In this instance Dennis has shown how I would like an understanding friend to respond. Some day I hope to meet you. Russ
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Thanks, Russ. That was a nice thing to say. I can't tell you how much I appreciate that. When we meet, the pleasure will be equally mine.
Thank you.
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bajamigo
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I'd like to meet you, too, Dennis. But wait...I have! And though you may often deny it, and sometimes demonstrate otherwise, you are a thoughtful and
sensitive individual. Keep it up.
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