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captain4tuna
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There seems to be so much anger and bitterness itowards one another in this forum.
Thank you Engineer Mike for your positive posts and for everything that you are doing.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EngineerMike
Skeet said it very well. The worst part of a disaster is when helplessness breeds helplessness. |
 If Skeet
ever said that, I'll buy you a new Corvette.
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ligui
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dennis, you are such a fun guy....
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k-rico
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Great thread folks. There is merit to both viewpoints.
I'll be at Bahia Concepcion, RVing, in about 2 months, doing what I always do, buying something from almost every vendor that walks by (1 purchase per
vendor) unless they have really tasty food.
I have an extensive baja blanket and t-shirt collection.
I usually get my breakfast delivered to my palapa every morning by an old gal driving a beat-up sedan, warm something or other. Fresh fish in the
afternoon, paid for in cash of course, and the requirement that the pescador drink cold beers with me in the shade of the grass shack. Room (palapa)
service, definitely with a smile.
Stay out of there until they get it cleaned up. Got dengue?
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mulegemichael
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dengue is always waiting in the shadows in this scenario...bring deet..mike, you are the light at the end of this friggin tunnel...we leave in the
morning...should be there by sunday..we are squatted down.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Posada-BushPilot
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Fighting Dengue
Our Rotary club donated a truck with tank, spray equipment and plenty of eco friendly insect killer. I hope they are runnin the wheels off that
truck.
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mulegemichael
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the off loaded that monster in front of our house last year and it can flat lay some mosquito flak out there...wow...what a great thing to have during
these times...jimmy was so proud!...i hope it made it through ok.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Posada-BushPilot
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MulegeMichael
Yup, it survived without damage, according to Quito.
Actually it was donated to the Mulege club by a club in the states, pretty sure it was So. Lake Tahoe. I need to find out for sure so they get the
credit they deserve. Very generous.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ligui
dennis, you are such a fun guy.... |
Just don't appreciate being assumed brainless. It makes the sutures around my lobotomy weep and gets really moist and messy. You know what I
mean....huh. 
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EngineerMike
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"<Names redacted by toneart>have been stuck at the US border at San Diego for over 2 hours. They needed a manifest, including placing value
on all the equipment- wheelbarrows, shovels, power-washer, clothing for the people of Mulege, food to donate, etc. Even though they told the customs
agent they were on a humanitarian mission, it was useless. They were first turned back to the US, then made to re-enter. They are paying a fee for the
value of all items listed on the manifest."
This is what I've been expecting at the border. There is a new regime in place. They will have to follow the letter of the law to get established,
it is the same in all officialdom.
If taking donations, by all means plead the case, & maybe w/enough pressure a senior official will get the word & there will be relief for the
relief effort. Until then, we don't need gaggles of Nomads getting depressed over the party line at Aduana. In the mean time go armed w/a well
detailed summary of your load, and prepared to pay ~15% duty. Take solace in saving 15% off the prices of stuff in TJ & Ensenada.
Director, Mulege Student Scholarship Program
Oasis Rio Baja #M-3, & Auburn, CA
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EngineerMike
Even though they told the customs agent they were on a humanitarian mission, it was useless. |
Gee. Let's see....who told you that would happen?
I remember. Do you?
It' a Nomad thing. Nobody listens to anybody but themselves.
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Mulegena
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about the border hassle
I just gotta ask... why stop?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
I just gotta ask... why stop? |
EngineerMike can tell you that one:
Red light...
Green light.....
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EngineerMike
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Lisa Maria- if you don't declare a load of commercial quantities of dutiable goods, and get pulled over either for red light or by selection, the
official punishment is
1) they get to keep your load of stuff, and
2) hit you w/a healthy fine.
Don't ask my wife about how I know this; she got over it finally. It was a trailer load of medical donations. And that was the old regime at Aduana.
Now there is an army of newbies who need to prove their proficiency and capability at enforcing the rules. That's why I've been counseling to pull
directly into Declaracion, tell them the Mulege story, then hand them your detailed manifest for the load & pony up the duty (~15%). Otherwise
you are there for hours, come near divorce, have to invoke your legal insurance, blah, blah, blah... I'm afraid we are stuck w/the duty train for a
while.
There are at least 3 agitators (bless their Nomadic souls) working on getting Jimena relief some Aduana relief. But it almost can't take less than
several days (less would be un milagro), and if it ever works is likely to take weeks. We will be at it for more than weeks, so hope for the best.
I'm going to talk to the Mulege Delegado about it and see if he can provide an official letter, and maybe get another from the Mulege Rotary. The
problem I've run into before is having an official acceptance that perfectly matches a relief load manifest. "How so we know this will actually be
delivered to the Delegado, since your load is one thing and his letter says another..." That's a tough bureaucratic hurdle to clear. We'll see what
transpires & hope for the best.
Director, Mulege Student Scholarship Program
Oasis Rio Baja #M-3, & Auburn, CA
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Sharksbaja
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Arriving before the town can handle your presence may not be prudent. Gather yourselves wisely. Take necessary and important items.
Be self-sufficient this visit. Bring cash and make sure you have a place to stay. I camped on Coyote for 2 weeks while unearthing John.
Don't forget about the impending mosquito hatch btw!
I pray for all the displaced and uprooted people in Mulege. One more big thanks for the many selfless giving people:
Thank You Mulege
Givers
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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AndrewPerrington
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Maybe the five hundred pounds of supplies/food/etc. delivered by the Bush Pilots wont solve everyone's problems. Heck, I'm sure the money spent in
fuel could also be donated to the Red Cross, Rotary Club, etc. But do you realize that each person directly helped by the Bush Pilots, or by
Norteamericanos that have friends in Mulege is a person that is not going to stand in line waiting for water or clothes, or food, therefore freeing up
some of the resources that can go to others in need?
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EngineerMike
Lisa Maria- if you don't declare a load of commercial quantities of dutiable goods, and get pulled over either for red light or by selection, the
official punishment is
1) they get to keep your load of stuff, and
2) hit you w/a healthy fine.
Don't ask my wife about how I know this; she got over it finally. It was a trailer load of medical donations. And that was the old regime at Aduana.
Now there is an army of newbies who need to prove their proficiency and capability at enforcing the rules. That's why I've been counseling to pull
directly into Declaracion, tell them the Mulege story, then hand them your detailed manifest for the load & pony up the duty (~15%). Otherwise
you are there for hours, come near divorce, have to invoke your legal insurance, blah, blah, blah... I'm afraid we are stuck w/the duty train for a
while.
There are at least 3 agitators (bless their Nomadic souls) working on getting Jimena relief some Aduana relief. But it almost can't take less than
several days (less would be un milagro), and if it ever works is likely to take weeks. We will be at it for more than weeks, so hope for the best.
I'm going to talk to the Mulege Delegado about it and see if he can provide an official letter, and maybe get another from the Mulege Rotary. The
problem I've run into before is having an official acceptance that perfectly matches a relief load manifest. "How so we know this will actually be
delivered to the Delegado, since your load is one thing and his letter says another..." That's a tough bureaucratic hurdle to clear. We'll see what
transpires & hope for the best. |
I was told once at the border that a letter from my church or even better from the parish priest would help smooth the wheels of crossing.
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rpleger
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Why not buy your stuff in Ensenada...CostCo...Home Depot...WalMart...
That way you can help the Mexican economy also....
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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EngineerMike
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Thanks for all the u2u and I apologize for lack of time to respond to each.
Tony- I figured that from the start about the Aduana reception; we'll argue what we can then pay what we owe. After all its their rules.
BajaBad- Understand fully about San Carlos, and good on ya for helping there.
Mike
Director, Mulege Student Scholarship Program
Oasis Rio Baja #M-3, & Auburn, CA
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Skeet/Loreto
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Dennis;
Why don"t you take a Vacation and go to Mulege and help some of those folks who are in need.
If you will get a load of supplies I will meet you and transport them down and then take you to Jungle Jims for a Drink of Cold Beer with Arrowhead.
P.S. You will be second to be thrown in the river!!
skeet
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