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Martyman
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Sure are some paranoid thoughts here. Yipes.. look out for Y2K. Everything is a conspiracy
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Where could one move to and live really pretty good on $35,000 per year? On the same land mass and close to the United States at the same time?
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Phoenix. Seems that is where all the Canadians retire to and they are poorer than Americans. |
You are so right. And I hear the surfing, diving and tuna fishing is awesome in Arizona!
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Mexicorn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Yet, an early report appears today to be sure we don't miss it, from Mexicorn, a "new member" poster who also happens to be monitoring the police
scanner and posting here on BN?
What are the chances of all of this happening? And a report is immediately processed by the local paper? Slim chance. Who are Dana Littlefield and
freelance journalist Omar Millán González?
Do you Nomads think it is odd? |
I think the black Ops are in full effect- I saw it on television Comandante Marcos-
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Mexicorn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
There are no theories presented, I noted that the series of events are unlikely, which is true by anyone's account, I note the role of Mexicorn and
predict ta follow-up from Arrowhead with distractions and personal attacks while this would be uncharacteristic from someone who is educated as the
writing reveals.
The pattern of the media story, the method of reporting and the follow-through is predictable, that is the obvious point, no conclusions have been
made.
As has been shown, this pattern is the textbook approach of Mass Communications Specialists who are hope to sway politics.
Look at the events from a historical perspective and from a eye on arrowhead for propaganda technique. |
Geez! and I thought Dennis was a nutbag....
Dude see a shrink get you hand on some psych meds...
Oh! and by all means dont storm the border with your sheepskin in hand!
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
You are so right. And I hear the surfing, diving and tuna fishing is awesome in Arizona!
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Good point Ron. I suppose people who are looking for a cheap place to retire when their social security kicks in at age 66 have surfing and diving as
the number 1 and 2 priorities on their list.
I often wonder if you ever engage your brain in gear before you post one of your snappy retorts.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
What I don't like about the story, is there is not yet a good emotional back story, such as these were people seeking freedom or political asylum, or
perhaps a story about a family that needed US health care because the emergency rooms do not turn away immigrants.
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Speaking of that possibility, how about this editorial:
"Turnabout Not Fair Play—Gringos Don’t Get Free Medical Care In Mexico"
How's that for a hijack? I'm learning the ropes from the best here.
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wessongroup
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Border security
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Yet, an early report appears today to be sure we don't miss it, from Mexicorn, a "new member" poster who also happens to be monitoring the police
scanner and posting here on BN?
What are the chances of all of this happening? And a report is immediately processed by the local paper? Slim chance. Who are Dana Littlefield and
freelance journalist Omar Millán González?
Do you Nomads think it is odd? |
I think the black Ops are in full effect- I saw it on television Comandante Marcos- |
Can't say any about all the other, but when we drove over to the SENTRI pass station in Calexico, I saw between 6-8 Highway Patrol cars, Crown Vic's,
4 Ford Expeditions also Highway Patrol. An added checkpoint at just before you drop down to the desert, with at least 15 personal present. Plus four
sites off the Hwy, which had INS SUV's. Also saw for the first time the "fence" which has been built approximately 1-3 miles south and parallels Hwy
8. I forgot to mark them on my GPS, but would guess the visible fence from the Hwy to be 3-4 miles in length.
It's been a long while since I drove from SD to El Centro, but the changes were to me quite significant.
Appeared to be as close to a military op as the State of California and the Federal Government could make it..
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Mexicorn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
There are no theories presented, I noted that the series of events are unlikely, which is true by anyone's account, I note the role of Mexicorn and
predict ta follow-up from Arrowhead with distractions and personal attacks while this would be uncharacteristic from someone who is educated as the
writing reveals.
The pattern of the media story, the method of reporting and the follow-through is predictable, that is the obvious point, no conclusions have been
made.
As has been shown, this pattern is the textbook approach of Mass Communications Specialists who are hope to sway politics.
Look at the events from a historical perspective and from a eye on arrowhead for propaganda technique. |
Geez! and I thought Dennis was a nutbag....
Dude see a shrink get you hand on some psych meds...
Oh! and by all means dont storm the border with your sheepskin in hand! |
Isn't ironic that 'the team' attack reasonable skeptics, with the idea we need a psychiatrist for those who ask questions or who raise skepticism, no
skepticism shall be tolerated is their message.
What is ironic to me, is that Sigmund Freud is the father of behavioral psychology and his nephew, Edward Bernays is the father of propaganda, whose
techniques have been used extensively to destabilize politics and play upon people's irrational fears.
You may be interested in Sigmund Freud's and Edward Benays' significant role in overthrowing the Banana Republics and practically all political
action. The human psyche is the center of the political will which must be led along.
The Century of the Self is a important movie about Bernays and his impact on on how politics and actions play upon our fears to manipulate the masses.
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Translation:
Oh do let me hornswaggle you retards with my quick witt.
Your all a bunch of Homer Simpsons and I'm so smart!
Just look at me blather on....
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
...........The question I asked about this post, which is improperly titled as shootout which is totally false, was, do any Nomads think it appears
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You MAY be right about the title, gnu.........in my 21 years in the military and 34 in law enforcement, I would call it
"Defensive Suppresive Fire".............but I'm sure that wouldn't have the sales appeal as "Shootout"
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Barry A.
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As Ken Fisher of KEN FISHER INVESTMENTS says over and over again, everybody is operating with "a stone-age brain", and we often react accordingly.
Seems appropriate observbation to me----------------
Barry
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Martyman
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I actually do have therapy this afternoon. Can't wait.
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Cypress
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gnukid, " if well informed" ! Who's gonna inform us? Just depends upon what station you're tuned into.
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wessongroup
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In a perfect world
No disaggrement with the statement
"Who will govern the governors?" There is only one force in the nation that can be depended upon to keep the government pure and the governors honest,
and that is the people themselves. They alone, if well informed, are capable of preventing the corruption of power, and of restoring the nation to its
rightful course if it should go astray. They alone are the safest depository of the ultimate powers of government."
Would you mean "American Idol" ?
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arrowhead
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I don't care if you keep having this picture deleted, Paul. You are one mixed up person.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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wessongroup
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As a point of reference let's come back to this story in months to come, (if anyone remembers) I predict there will be no Mexicans proven guilty of
any crime. Just as the case of the Trolley Car arrests in SD where many were arrested and none found guilty, or the airport searches which was also
highly promoted to incite fear, no smugglers or contraband were found. Those stories are produced for their meme not their ability to reduce actual
illegal immigration and contraband.
And, if I may point early on, as this story was reported here, I predicted the steps and style of posts which would follow from Arrowhead and Mexitron
and I was spot on. And they continue with support from many here.
Perhaps we can accept that there is and has been a broad and well funded media machine across media and militias that promotes memes to manipulate
politics. Certainly, today there is a strong and well funded force to discourage rational thought and skepticism as "insanity", even 'psychology
today' jumped-the-shark with an article to claim people who question official conspiracy theories are delusional. Note the meme: skepticism = insanity. These Orwellian manipulations of words are minor examples of Big Lie, for example, the peace keeper weapon, or carbon credit, and in this case shootout
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Good take, things always look a little different over a short period of time... in some cases..
You guys are better than my Law and Order, many thanks... great topics and great input from all.. Oh, is dueling allowed in Mexico?
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
I tend to think that many Americans actually take delight in the troubles of Mexico and therefore eagerly buy newspapers and watch news shows
headlining the problems. It lessens the quiet desperation of their daily existence to know that others have more significant problems.
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So true.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Gypsy Jan
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An Open Request to Gnukid
Please, if you want people to read and absorb/understand your assertions, DO NOT USE ALL CAPS!
Also, please re-read and edit your polemics before posting. "Hay una cacha in mi cabeza" after trying to figure out your position and the logic
involved.
[Edited on 9-23-2009 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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paul r
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...hi gang, ... we were there!, it's funnny reading all the gobbly gupp, because when the bullets were "ringing" we dropped as low as we could and
"held on"!!!... traveing south about 3:30 or so we ( left hand lane) heard and saw the "fun" happening and let me tell you, EVERYONE paniced! When
your in the "war zone" these "natural" instincts rise to the occassion!... I could go on and on but, I"ll let the "experts "mold the story... for us
though,... we'll have yes, TWO more pacificos please... party on flockers... love...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by paul r
heard and saw the "fun" happening and let me tell you, EVERYONE paniced! When your in the "war zone" these "natural" instincts rise to the
occassion!... |
Love to have seen the chaos of the moment, Paul. Had to be a laugh seeing everybody goosing the gas pedal in a panic sort of way, just like bumper
cars. Must have been a hoot.
By the way, Paul..........Panic in a war zone is lethal. Gotta keep your wits about you. No sense in not knowing why your life just came to an end.
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bajaguy
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Might have been a good time to cross southbound. Wonder what the guy sitting in his perch at the Mexico gates did???
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