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[*] posted on 10-10-2009 at 03:05 PM


Merriam-Webster definition:
"Main Entry: vig·i·lan·te
Function: noun
a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate); broadly : a self-appointed doer of justice"

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd

Tony- I note that you used a quote from me to make your point. Just want to go on record that my first post about vigilantes was generic, meant to apply to any sovereign nation. And it points back to the same issue. People will tolerate vigilantes, even if only tacitly, if they agree with the cause. The fact that Mexicans would tolerate or even openly support vigilantism versus the cartels, does not erase the fact that any form of vigilantism ultimately can weaken or undermine a stable democratic form of government.


Howard,

I was agreeing with your statement in the quote. :yes:

In my paragraph following your quote, I used the word "you" as a general, meaning oneself. Also, I attempted to answer your question, about "what if vigilantism doesn't fit your ideology?"...(paraphrasing here). I didn't state it, but I was also answering for myself; I don't much like vigilantes because they do not fit my ideology. I do feel the Mexican vigilantes have a greater cause than do our Minutemen.

I have recently stopped trying to convince right wingers. It is hopeless. That is the way they are wired. What I have come to is, I really don't care what they think just so they don't act out on their manipulated mindset and hurt somebody, physically or emotionally. If they do I get like this>>>>>:fire: I am definitely a Bleeding Heart, but I don't take any crap! :no:




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[*] posted on 10-10-2009 at 03:26 PM


I deleted my posts about the Minutemen, perhaps some of you read them, because they were off topic and have nothing to do about living in, or visiting Mexico. Before I made the posts I used Google search to read about them. I encourage all to do so.

Private citizens have no place enforcing the laws in any country except in immediate defense of person or property. Informing authorities about suspicious/illegal activities of others so the authorities can enforce the law is fine thing to do.


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[*] posted on 10-11-2009 at 06:44 AM


I don't know where or how they can throw Nogales in this topic. I live very close to Nogales and we have not had the problems the other large border towns have, knock on wood. We rarely have seen even a minute man but we do have a LARGE Border Patrol presents. I always laugh when people group everyone and everything into their story to prove a point. At present life is good around here!

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