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norte
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David K probably knows
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David K
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Sorry, no.
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Paulina
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Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
"But last month another private plane was there for a couple of days and one of his local friends told us that he was able to have the police and
local marines trade off in guarding the plane---don't know all the details"
any way to find out what they paid??
would $10 a day get it done? |
El Capitan, are you serious? You're kidding right?
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capt. mike
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"El Capitan, are you serious? You're kidding right?"
Serious? - very much so. it has been a common rate at many remoted strips through out Baja for years if federale presence was not available.
$10 bucks a day USA $$ is as much or more most semi or unskilled working men (or women) make in Mexico daily.
many SKILLED workers get double that. but to sit out all night and watch for fuel thieves and kids messing around - yeah $10 or so bucks is easy money
for someone looking for some extra scratch.
we're not asking for $8 an hour renta cops here. just a presence to discourage mischief.
some guys will pay $20 but they're flying twins....
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
many SKILLED workers get double that. |
That would be bottom end for skill. Four to five times that here. We all pay two and a half bucks for a gallon of gas.
"Times they are a'changin." Rapidly.
excuse the mindless hijack
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DianaT
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
many SKILLED workers get double that. |
That would be bottom end for skill. Four to five times that here. We all pay two and a half bucks for a gallon of gas.
"Times they are a'changin." Rapidly.
excuse the mindless hijack |
Hijack? Nah--keeps it up there for the benefit of the seller.
However, unless it was the army and or police, I do not think I would not want to hire just anyone to guard an airplane---too risky for the guard!
[Edited on 11-7-2009 by DianaT]
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capt. mike
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yeah - agree - it's why you have insurance.
but just as with a padlock on a gate....it keeps honest people honest.
however - if one wants to cut the lock they will anyway.
having it stolen is one thing - just deal with it.
having your avgas ripped or a window busted to take radios or just be curious - either one will ruin your trip and be a hassle to deal with insurance
wize.
sure - wages are going up near populated areas.
but at many places with remote strips and maybe one factory or industry in town, AKA Lopez Mateo, those workers make little money.
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MitchMan
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The house seems like a screaming deal, to me. If it is 900 sq ft, the cost of materials alone is probably $20 K to $25K USD. That means you are
getting the land and labor to build for just about free.
One problem (for me anyway) is how to get there. It sounds like the only way to get there is to drive from TJ (since I live in So Cal). Loreto is
far from Asuncion, besides, how do you get to Asuncion from Loreto? Rent a cab? That's going to be expensive. I don't think buses run regularly, do
they? And if they did, you would have to get to the bus station and then wait for the bus, that is if you didn't arrive at Loreto until after the
only bus going to Asuncion already left. Renting a car is expensive, it would equal and/or surpass the cost of a flight from So Cal to Loreto.
Therefore, using the house as a weekend getaway would not work. In other words, it would be practical only if you had a bunch of time all the time
and could go there for extended stays only.
I made a comment like this once before about the prospect of buying a place in Todos Santos and the only comment I got was that most people get picked
up by friends. I don't know anybody in Asuncion that would pick me up from the Loreto airport.
There are many many great places in Baja that are remote from an airport. I guess I will forever be perplexed with regard to how they work out the
transportation issue. The subject is discussed very rarely yet so many Americans live in these places and it seems like the transportation is no
issue to them.
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DianaT
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Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
The house seems like a screaming deal, to me. If it is 900 sq ft, the cost of materials alone is probably $20 K to $25K USD. That means you are
getting the land and labor to build for just about free.
One problem (for me anyway) is how to get there. It sounds like the only way to get there is to drive from TJ (since I live in So Cal). Loreto is
far from Asuncion, besides, how do you get to Asuncion from Loreto? Rent a cab? That's going to be expensive. I don't think buses run regularly, do
they? And if they did, you would have to get to the bus station and then wait for the bus, that is if you didn't arrive at Loreto until after the
only bus going to Asuncion already left. Renting a car is expensive, it would equal and/or surpass the cost of a flight from So Cal to Loreto.
Therefore, using the house as a weekend getaway would not work. In other words, it would be practical only if you had a bunch of time all the time
and could go there for extended stays only.
I made a comment like this once before about the prospect of buying a place in Todos Santos and the only comment I got was that most people get picked
up by friends. I don't know anybody in Asuncion that would pick me up from the Loreto airport.
There are many many great places in Baja that are remote from an airport. I guess I will forever be perplexed with regard to how they work out the
transportation issue. The subject is discussed very rarely yet so many Americans live in these places and it seems like the transportation is no
issue to them. |
You ask very good questions. I cannot think of anyway Bahia Asuncion would be good for a weekend get-away---just won't work.
From Loreto, yes, you could rent a car, but plan on a day to get to Bahia Asuncion. The buses only go to Vizcaino and then one needs to have
arrangements to be picked up in Vizcaino or hitch a ride.
When we go, we usually drive there from San Diego in two days---don't like to rush it, especially during the winter months. Now some who are younger
and stop less than we do, do it in one hard day---best in summer with longer days.
The amount of gingos who own there is growing, and growing. Some use it as a get away from the Sea of Cortez side. The Canadians usually come for a
longer period of time---snowbirds. At times some fly into Loreto and rent a car.
US citizens, a few stay there most of the time. When we go, we are there for at least a month or more. A few we know who have bought property have
small planes and fly into the dirt strip. And some come for a week or more and drive.
So, for a week-end get away from So. Cal, it really does not work unless you have a friend with a small airplane.
Good questions for clarification---thanks.
Diane
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k-rico
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Mitchman,
Sounds like you have it figured out. You drive to Asuncion. Or fly if you have access to a private plane.
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BajaNuts
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I believe there is a storage unit place in Loreto where a vehicle can be left for long term parking. Rates are kinda steep...something like
$50/month. But it is an option...
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k-rico
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Seeing Shari's latest fishing in Asuncion photos just adds value to this house. Location, location, location. I bet alot of fishermen are thinking
hard about this place. Is there lobster and abalone to be had too? I imagine so.
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baitcast
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I bet alot of fishermen are thinking hard about this place.
For sure
Rob
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DianaT
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Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Is there lobster and abalone to be had too? I imagine so. |
There are LOTS of lobster and abalone around there----just don't try to get them on your own. The patrol cars run 24/7 and they don't care much for
poachers----some great stories around about what has happened to a few.
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k-rico
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Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Is there lobster and abalone to be had too? I imagine so. |
There are LOTS of lobster and abalone around there----just don't try to get them on your own. The patrol cars run 24/7 and they don't care much for
poachers----some great stories around about what has happened to a few. |
Oh, I'm not a fisherman nor do I catch things that live in grottos or pry off of rocks critters that I probably wouldn't recognize anyway. I just like
to eat.
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DianaT
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Quote: | Originally posted by baitcast
I bet alot of fishermen are thinking hard about this place.
For sure
Rob |
We do hope someone buys it ----Armando and several in his family have been good friends.
Then there is the selfish side---the amount of gringos around has really grown----wish someone would promote Abreojos more.
[Edited on 11-8-2009 by DianaT]
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k-rico
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Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
wish someone would promote Abreojos more.
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It would make sense for anyone considering Asuncion to also consider Abreojos. It's been several years since I've been to Asuncion but if I remember
correctly there are fewer services there than in Abreojos.
Abreojos appears to be a thriving fishing community and there are good surf breaks. The road is paved almost right to town and it is a cruise from the
main highway, about 60 miles I think.
I saw land for sale in Abreojos out by the surf breaks at the point. The photo below shows some of the gringo houses being built in that area. The
beaches are pristine with abundant sea life.
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capt. mike
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"A few we know who have bought property have small planes and fly into the dirt strip"
Diana T - Can you hook me up with any of these people?
n7369p at q dot com
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we went to have a look at this house when we were there. kinda funky layout, but if you were to negotiate a second story deck looking towards the sea
i could see it becoming a really cool house.
more windows too! but as a starting point it is reasonable for the price!
edit: just make sure you unlock the door before entering!
[Edited on 11-8-2009 by woody in ob]
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DianaT
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Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
"A few we know who have bought property have small planes and fly into the dirt strip"
Diana T - Can you hook me up with any of these people?
n7369p at q dot com |
Sorry---two we have met briefly through a mutual acquaintance when they were there and we know of one more, but we were not there when they brought
him to visit. We did not exchange any information like e-mails----but
next time we are down there, I will see if I can find a contact for you.
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