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mulegejim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pacside
Bob and Susan,
I feel your pain. I realize you speak from personal experience. Thanks for the helpful info and warnings.
The CA DMV has a "Statement of Facts" form. Some have been successful in renewing their CA registration annually by completing the form stating truck
is in mx, showing CA DMV proof of mx insurance and also stating truck will not be back in california. I will try this and let everyone know how it
goes.
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I just renewed the registration at the Auto Club in San Clemente, CA on my 1993 PU. The truck is in Mulege and would have required a smog check. I
filled out a statement of fact that the truck was in Mulege, paid the registration fee and walked out with the sticker for the plate. I was not asked
for Mexican insurance or anything. The agent told me if the vehicle is far enough into Mexico you are not required to bring it back to California for
a smog test. This is the second time I have done this.
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Juan del Rio
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I too just got my renewal sticker from the CA DMV direct through the mail. I do the statement of fact, provide a current, AAA insurance statement for
the vehicle (800 miles South of the border), map of the location where I keep the 1989 Surburban, copy of my Mexican Insurance, a copy of my paid
Mexican property tax with stamp and water bill with stamp. I have done this every year since 2002.
Thanks for the heads up on the AAA office option!
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Bob and Susan
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i guess it's time for AAA insurance
the map is a GREAT idea!!!
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mulegejim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
i guess it's time for AAA insurance
the map is a GREAT idea!!! |
I don't even have AAA Insurance - I am just an Auto Club member. The office I went to in San Clemente did not even ask for documentation - I did have
my FM-3 with me but did not have to show it. Different offices may be different so it never hurts to be prepared. You could even get a free Baja map
at the AAA office to show them where the vehicle is located if they ask. I should have asked how far into Mexico the vehicle needs to be, however, the
agent did say something about more than a days drive - whatever that would be. Jim
[Edited on 1-14-2010 by mulegejim]
[Edited on 1-14-2010 by mulegejim]
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Alan
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What a great thread! So many of us that try to follow the laws of our host country get so frustrated by our inability to get a straight answer on
what is actually required. It always ends up being the current interpretation of the specific person we are dealing with at that moment. Following
this thread it looks like it isn't that much different in our home country. 
In Memory of E-57
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fandango
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mulegejim: i have done exactly what you have done for the past 6 years for the truck i leave in baja.
i have used AAA and mail in to the DMV with the "statement of facts", and a copy of my mexican insurance policy.
when this thread started i called the DMV to clarify since i have done this for so long. the agent says that it is NOT possible to exempt a car from
smog that is in mexico or baja. this agent felt that it was just a mistake on the clerks part that i was able to get a tag. at least 6 times? i
did not give her my plate number in case she was able to flag my truck.
so, although the rule is NO, it is possible.
i think AAA is the way to go from now on. i'm due to renew in march.
pacside: good luck, i hope it works for you.
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mulegejim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fandango
mulegejim: i have done exactly what you have done for the past 6 years for the truck i leave in baja.
i have used AAA and mail in to the DMV with the "statement of facts", and a copy of my mexican insurance policy.
when this thread started i called the DMV to clarify since i have done this for so long. the agent says that it is NOT possible to exempt a car from
smog that is in mexico or baja. this agent felt that it was just a mistake on the clerks part that i was able to get a tag. at least 6 times? i
did not give her my plate number in case she was able to flag my truck.
so, although the rule is NO, it is possible.
i think AAA is the way to go from now on. i'm due to renew in march.
pacside: good luck, i hope it works for you. |
Not sure why you would call if you were already getting what you wanted - hope DMV doesn't put out some kind of notice to AAA telling them to stop the
the procedure.
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Targeting Expired Registration
I can't say about anyplace other than the San Felipe area, BUT in that area, driving with expired tags on your plate is a COP MAGNET. They have
discovered what a lucrative target that is.
Nothing a good Scanner and Ink-Jet printer can't solve, though. Sometimes it takes a little work with the Color Balances, but not that much.
Until you get pulled over for something else and are asked for registration. Then it's time for the "Can't we take care of this right here ?" query.
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Debra
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Interesting thread.
All the rules are of course differ State to State. I'm in Washington where we don't yet have the smog rules.
What I do (to same some money., I still drive back and forth for extended stays), is just before I cross the border (while buying pesos) I call my
ins. company (Geicko) and drop my coverage to liabilty only, it's dirt cheap, then when I cross back I just give them a call to
reinstate..........it's just as if your rig is parked in your garage at home, my Mx ins. takes over at the border, and yes, Geicko knows what I'm
doing, it was them that suggested it in the first place.
Mean people suck!
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To keep a my car in Baja registered with current Calif Tags: I went to DMV, showed them my Mexican Insurance and proof of a Baja address that is more
than 300 miles south of the border. I then have to tell them that no smog is required and ask them to refer to __Sec 27.150__ of the Calif Veh
Registration Manual that covers this. Then I sign a statements of facts saying the vehicle is never to be driven on Calif roads and pay the fees.
DMV issues a registration with the Baja address and sends renewals to the Baja address. I have to repeat the process every time the smog is due.
If you fail to receive a notice of renewal in Baja, just go to DMV prior to being late. Good Luck
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bombero
To keep a my car in Baja registered with current Calif Tags: I went to DMV, showed them my Mexican Insurance and proof of a Baja address that is more
than 300 miles south of the border. I then have to tell them that no smog is required and ask them to refer to __Sec 27.150__ of the Calif Veh
Registration Manual that covers this. Then I sign a statements of facts saying the vehicle is never to be driven on Calif roads and pay the fees.
DMV issues a registration with the Baja address and sends renewals to the Baja address. I have to repeat the process every time the smog is due.
If you fail to receive a notice of renewal in Baja, just go to DMV prior to being late. Good Luck |
Finally
a reasonable answer! It is nice to see this coming from our CA DMV. Now if I can just find that one DMV employee
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fandango
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i registered my baja truck at AAA this morning.
i presented the renewal form, copy of mex insurance, statement of facts.
paid and left with registration and new tag.
sbwontoo
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CP
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Have something a little different going on with the CA DMV - maybe someone has had similar experience? We did not receive a renewal notice for 2010.
I did not notice until my tags were past due. Had my sis in MI call (we have no phone) and all they would tell her was that the DMV was notified that
my vehicle had been registered out of state and so they cancelled my reg. They gave her a Sacramento number to call and she has not been able to get
through yet to see what we need to do. We got our 2009 tags A-OK with Mex ins only and the statement of fact that we are 800 miles sotb - and reading
these posts here I don't think that caused the problem. I can only imagine someone up there put in a wrong tag # for the out of state reg. Anyways,
waiting to here what I need to do to get back in good graces. Anybody gone through this?
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
I can't say about anyplace other than the San Felipe area, BUT in that area, driving with expired tags on your plate is a COP MAGNET. They have
discovered what a lucrative target that is.
Nothing a good Scanner and Ink-Jet printer can't solve, though. Sometimes it takes a little work with the Color Balances, but not that much.
Until you get pulled over for something else and are asked for registration. Then it's time for the "Can't we take care of this right here ?" query.
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What's the best ink that doesn't fade or run when it gets wet?
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I recently did the license plate conversion. I have a 1982 Toyota FJ60 that was once registered in CA. I left it in Baja with the intent of not ever
bringing it back I was tired of renting autos which run about 500 a week.
I then had the vehicle registered in another state.
You first need to get your vehicle down to Baja.
Have it insured by Lewis and Lewis or some other company.
What ever method you use to aquire another states plates is good enough for me as long as the plates are registered in your name and advise the
insurance compnay of the change. You can call that guy in the gringo gazette that will charge a couple of hundred bucks if you don't have the nerve to
call one of the South Dakota county Treasures office.
I went to AAA and they told me to sign a release of liability form with the old CA vehicle information.
The CA DMV continued to send me registration renewals. After waiting 30 minutes in DMV Phone hell, I got ahold of someone and told them that I
registered my vehicle out of state at my second residence. Thats all they need to know. However you live in CA and keep a second car at that out of
state address for when you go there. That's it say nothing more.
They said I should have filled out the "Statement of facts" form and send it the Sacramento registration office.
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MitchMan
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A couple of concerns that I have about all this is in order for CA DMV to "continue valid regisitration" after you get your tags is the DMV must get
electronically notified by your US California Insurer confirming your valid US California coverage on the Calif regstered car. You may be able to get
your tags at AAA, but if you do not have US Califonia Insurance coverage, then the DMV will not receive Electronic notification and that therefore
may render your Ca registration invalid, in fact, even though you have current registration tags.
I am OK with that, except for one thing. It is my understanding that in order for your mexican insurance company to cover a claim, you must have a
"valid current USA registration". If the Mexican insurer discovers that your Ca registration has been suspended or invalidated because there was
never an electronic notification of valid California insurance coverage because you never got such coverage in the first place, then the Mexican
insurer may well have a basis for denying your claim even though you are in possession of current Ca registration tags.
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fandango
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mitchman: if that were to occur, wouldn't i be notified by the DMV that my registration was invalid? would i have a penalty to register the next
year?
i can't remember if the renewal form says proof of insurance or proof of california insurance, but i do provide proof of insurance.
sbwontoo
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MrBillM
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The BEST Ink ?
No Idea.
I've always simply used one of my HP printers, standard paper and covered with a quality Clear Tape. Double-Back tape on the back. Fading IS a
problem so you need to change the tag often. At a cost of pennies, it's a minor inconvenience.
The biggest challenge is getting the colors right. It takes a few attempts with whatever photo program you're using, but once there, you could crank
out hundreds if you wanted to.
This year is the toughest of the five. RED is hard to get right and fades quicker.
But, it works.
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monoloco
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Yeah, I found that the red fades in a couple of weeks.
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Fred-o
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La Tijereta is correct
If you need cheap CA liability insurance go to www.wawanesa.com. My wife has it as her car is registered there, CA.
Check it out on Google for references and opinions. You still need to go through all the smog crap every two years or so.
They only sell policies on line and debit your checking account.
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