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MsTerieus
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It was probably one of those gay tire shops. |
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
[T]hese guys all sound like regular joe's / working stiffs. |
Would ya stop with the Gay jokes, already?! 
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By GUSTAVO RUIZ, Associated Press Writer – Tue Oct 5, 9:03 pm ET
MORELIA, Mexico – Twenty men kidnapped last week in the Pacific resort city of Acapulco had no criminal records and may have been targeted by mistake,
Mexican investigators said Tuesday.
Police have found no trace of the men, whose kidnapping is one of the biggest blows yet to a resort city whose sparkling bay was a favorite playground
of Hollywood's elite decades ago.
Acapulco has long since lost its former glory and is now mostly popular with Mexican tourists. Even that source of income has been jeopardized as the
port city becomes a drug trafficking battleground.
Shootouts have erupted near the main tourist strip and in August, soldiers killed a U.S. man on a highway outside the city. The soldiers said the
American fired at them first, but the military says it is investigating that claim.
Police have confirmed that 19 of the abducted men were mechanics from the western city of Morelia and apparently had been vacationing together in the
Pacific resort city, said Jesus Montejano, the state attorney general of Michoacan state, were Morelia is located.
A 17-year-old among the group was the son of one of the mechanics.
"They were all men of honorable work," Montejano told reporters. "Their families lived modestly and they were all mechanics of different specialties,
and their shops have been located."
The kidnapping was reported Friday by a man who said he had been traveling with the group. He told police that he and another man went to the store
and when they returned their companions, who had been traveling in four cars and were looking for a place to stay, were gone. The man said witnesses
told him an armed gang had kidnapped the group.
The man had told police the men were mechanics who saved up each year to vacation together.
Fernando Monreal, director of the investigative police in Guerrero state, where Acapulco is located, said that the man's story seemed suspicious in a
country where people rarely vacation with out their families.
But a search through criminal records in Michoacan and Guerrero states, and interviews with the families of the men, appeared to corroborate his
story, officials have since said.
Police have found the four cars the group was traveling in but have found no trace of the missing men despite scouring highways around Acapulco.
In northern Mexico, meanwhile, marines arrested 17 alleged members of the Gulf cartel in the several operations across Tamaulipas, a state bordering
Texas. The marines also seized 49 assault rifles, two handguns and six hand grenades, the navy said in a statement.
It was the second mass arrest of alleged Gulf cartel members in a week. Thirty suspected members of the gang were captured in raids in Tamaulipas last
week.
Violence has surged in Tamaulipas and neighboring Nuevo Leon state this year since a turf war broke out between the Gulf cartel and its former ally,
the Zetas gang of hit men.
The region has seen the assassination of a gubernatorial candidate, numerous mayors, grenade attacks and the massacre of 72 migrants who apparently
refused to work for the Zetas.
In the latest violence, a shootout broke out in the city of Monterrey between gunmen and police trying to rescue a hostage.
Two gunmen were killed and three state police were injured, said Nuevo Leon Public Safety Secretary Luis Carlos Trevino.
Mexico's drug war has claimed an unprecedented 28,000 lives nationwide since President Felipe Calderon intensified the crackdown on the cartels,
deploying thousands of soldiers and federal police across the country in December 2006.
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DENNIS
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This whole thing is so bizarre I'm wondering if it ever happened although I suppose it did since the Acapulco Chamber of Commerce hasn't called BS as
of yet.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
This whole thing is so bizarre I'm wondering if it ever happened although I suppose it did since the Acapulco Chamber of Commerce hasn't called BS as
of yet. |
Quite the opposite. The Mayor of Acapulco has acknowledged the incident and has started a PR campaign specifically to counter the negative impact of
this event on tourism. Just lipstick on a pig imo.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Quite the opposite. The Mayor of Acapulco has acknowledged the incident and has started a PR campaign specifically to counter the negative impact of
this event on tourism. Just lipstick on a pig imo. |
Is the mayor sure it really happened?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Quite the opposite. The Mayor of Acapulco has acknowledged the incident and has started a PR campaign specifically to counter the negative impact of
this event on tourism. Just lipstick on a pig imo. |
Is the mayor sure it really happened? |
Yes. At the time of the incident he was convinced because of the action of the 'survivor" who went to the police and then hospitals looking for his
companions. The first version (and now taken as the more accurate version) said the men had bought beer and were drinking them in public next to
their cars, while the other man was inside. The men were either led or taken away by a group of men in police uniform presumably to be taken back to
the station and fined for drinking in public. When the survivor couldn't find the men at the police station- or the hospital as a second thought- he
was very convincing- enough that the Acapulco police did come to believe something bad to "tourists" had taken place- although no one has determined
exactly what, who or how.
I don;t know if not finding a trace of them (beyond the vehicles being recovered) is a good sign or not. 20 men are a lot of trouble to guard, care
for and feed when there is little money to be had from the families in return.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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No more news about these guys?
Don't believe everything you think....
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Just wondering that myself. 20 people dissappear off downtown street and nobody has any news.
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I guess the teat of BN insight, thread-hijack, smart replies, and humour has been drained
but...as for the news follow-up: maybe the Mexican newspapers are so threatened by narco-powers that they have not printed any news or info relating
to these guys...
Don't believe everything you think....
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Has any new information surfaced on the fate of these people ??
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Has any new information surfaced on the fate of these people ?? |
The fate of the victims, no. But the Blog Del Narco has a video it says shows one of the men who did the kidnapping being "interrogated". That man
says it was the work of "the barbie" and the military and local police were in on it. The victims must be long dead by now. No one feeds and hides a
group that large.
http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/10/hombres-en-patrullas-res...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
That man says it was the work of "the barbie" and the military and local police were in on it. |
That must have been before he was busted??? I can't remember which came first.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
That man says it was the work of "the barbie" and the military and local police were in on it. |
That must have been before he was busted??? I can't remember which came first. |
I think that the Barbie was busted way before this kidnapping. Unless he's a shot caller in prison.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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That man says it was the work of "the barbie" and the military and local police were in on it. |
That must have been before he was busted??? I can't remember which came first. |
I think that the Barbie was busted way before this kidnapping. Unless he's a shot caller in prison. |
yup, it takes a while for a snake to know when its head has been cut off.
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Kidnapped Tourists In Acapulco
The bodies of 18 of the 22 "tourists" kidnapped in Acapulco may have been found. A videotaped confession by two of the killers indicates that the
kidnapping and subsequent execution were ordered by the cartel "La Familia". Also today, the body of a missing Canadian was found in his burned rental
car near Acapulco.
ACAPULCO, GUERRERO (03/NOV/2010).- Peritos de la Procuraduría General de Justicia del Estado (PGJE) extrajeron 18 cuerpos de personas ejecutadas y
enterradas en una “narcofosa” que se encuentra en una huerta de cocos en el poblado de Tunzingo, ubicado en la zona rural de Acapulco.
La Procuraduría de Justicia de Guerrero, hasta el momento, no descarta ni confirma que sean del grupo de los 20 michoacanos desaparecidos el pasado 30
de septiembre.
De acuerdo con datos recabados por personal de la Policía Investigadora Ministerial (PIM), en el lugar de los hechos se sacaron 18 cuerpos de una fosa
de aproximadamente dos metros de ancho por cuatro de largo y una profundidad de 1.2 metros.
Esta tarde se suspendió la excavación debido a la falta de luz.
Desde las 09:00 horas de hoy, peritos de criminalística realizaban las excavaciones.
La búsqueda inició el martes, luego de una denuncia anónima en la que se indicó que los cuerpos serían los de los 20 turistas michoacanos.
Fernando Monreal Leyva, director de la Policía Investigadora Ministerial de Guerrero, aclaró que solo se podrá corroborar que los cadáveres
corresponden a los michoacanos plagiados, hasta que se realicen las investigaciones correspondientes.
Presuntos criminales subieron hoy a internet un video donde aparecen dos hombres declarando a la cámara que habían matado a los "michoacanos"
(presuntamente los 20 turistas) por órdenes de un hombre llamado Carlos Montemayor, alias "El Charro" o "El Compadre".
En las excavaciones participan agentes estatales y federales, apoyados por militares e infantes de la Marina.
En Guerrero, desde hace unos meses, bandas rivales del crimen organizado libran una guerra sin cuartel por las plazas de Acapulco y Zihuatanejo, dos
puntos turísticos de este estado.
Con información de El Universal y EFE
CRÉDITOS: El Universal / NIMR Hoy 19:24 hrs
[Edited on 11-4-2010 by sanquintinsince73]
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Google translation of the above article:
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ACAPULCO, GUERRERO (03/NOV/2010) .- Experts from the Attorney General of the State (PGJE) extracted 18 bodies of people executed and buried in a
"narcofosa" located in a coconut grove in the village of Tunzingo located in the rural area of Acapulco.
The Attorney General of Guerrero, so far, does not rule out or confirm that they are the group of 20 missing Michoacán on 30 September.
According to data collected by staff of the Ministerial Investigative Police (PIM) in the scene were removed 18 bodies from a mass of about two meters
wide and four meters long and 1.2 meters deep.
This afternoon, the excavation was suspended due to lack of light.
From 09:00 am today, forensic experts for conducting the excavations.
The search began on Tuesday after an anonymous tip in which it said would be the bodies of 20 tourists Michoacan.
Fernando Monreal Leyva, director of the Ministerial Investigative Police of Guerrero, said that only confirm that the bodies may correspond to the
Michoacán kidnapped, until investigations are completed.
Suspected criminals today rose Internet a video featuring two men declaring on camera that had killed the "Michoacan" (presumably the 20 tourists) on
the orders of a man named Carlos Montemayor, alias "El Charro" or "El Compadre."
In the excavations involved state and federal agents, backed by soldiers and Marines.
In Guerrero, the last few months, rival gangs of organized crime are waging a relentless war on the streets of Acapulco and Zihuatanejo, two tourist
spots in this state.
With information and EFE El Universal
CREDITS: The Universal / NIMR Today 19:24 hrs
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AP version
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/03/mexican-authorities-...
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Very sad for their families, especially if they were targeted incorrectly
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they could have at least left the bodies presentable for a funeral. Only good news is the bodies of the two confessed killers (blog del narcos forced
confession on video) were found on top of the grave.
[Edited on 11-4-2010 by Woooosh]
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